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<0> private chraity
<1> they should be actively participating in the healthcare of their own people
<0> Linus-- private charity offer free healthcare
<0> to poor people so does catholic hospitals
<2> public hospitals are subsidized by the church?
<3> the catholic church is more unhealthy than drugs imo
<2> rofl
<2> point!
<0> whoh send we should fund free healthcare to public hospitals
<0> who said
<0> the catholic church may be, but the point is that htey donate lot of aid to catholic churches
<0> and charity of catholic churches
<2> well, i didn't mean for this to become a health care debate... but i guess it is an issue intricately tied to illegal immigration
<4> except if emergencies keep recurring, because of a lack of a more comprehensive set of care options, then that's inefficient.
<0> that are also relgious hospitals
<1> heh i will say again..
<1> personally, I think we could solve alot of our problems with Illegals by forcing Mexico to foot the bill through the UN
<1> they should be actively participating in the healthcare of their own people
<0> Linus-- as I dissagree with illegal comming here, I have a bias
<0> but I don;t dissagree that illegal do a great job at working
<0> they do
<2> Timur, the fallout of the uninsured burdening ERs is that when a private company buys a county hospital, they are closing the ERs
<1> we buy their oil for say 10$ off the price per barrel
<0> but illegaly breaking laws, and not going to checkpoints is a factor that could hurt us
<2> gopp, on that we agree
<0> Linus-- i know f private hospital
<0> who offer
<0> charity care
<4> Linus: exactly. That happened to a couple hospitals in Philadelphia -except a few were closed down entirely
<0> e.g. catholic hospital called st marry near me
<0> k
<0> no more chate
<2> gopp, some might, but it still costs the rest of us with higher premiums
<0> Linus-- well
<0> think of it as a charity to the catholic
<0> church
<0> a good deed to god
<5> so i just woke up
<5> and i had a nightmare
<2> you can't just magically erase the cost burden placed on the system by uninsured illegal workers
<4> welcome to the world of the waking
<2> it shows up somewhere
<5> i won a million dollars
<5> and i gave it away as charity
<1> Llinus sure you can, if you implement my strategy
<4> haha
<0> Linus-- nope, and then we should give illegal insurance
<2> meaning tax bailouts or higher premiums, or both
<1> you start forcing Mexico to foot their god damned bill
<2> blehahh!
<2> ha
<0> how if they are illegal, how do we document them for insurance
<0> `426-Hemi great idea
<2> 426, I'm all for that if it is possible
<0> have them use meixcan insurance in america
<3> i told you guys
<0> allowed to use thier mexican insurance in america
<1> Linus we charge them 10-20$ off per barrel of oil we import to mexico
<2> but we don't even have a good grasp on how many illegal mexicans are here
<1> FROM mexico
<1> i mean
<3> a levy for using public hospitals which basically extra income tax
<0> `426-Hemi not all illegals are from mexico
<2> gopp, we know
<3> and state subsidisation in the short term for private health insurance
<1> Linus, we can document how many illegals show up at the hospital!
<2> `426-Hemi, can we?
<0> but have central american asia, and mexico illegal
<1> yes we can
<0> all pay for a insruance
<1> you can get a damn good majority of them
<0> Linus-- have mexico all join a club of insurance
<0> Linus-- and like you say
<0> a group will drive insurance down
<1> my wife works in the ER, as a bill collector
<0> in price
<0> Linus-- see you could implent your idea, of a group policy
<0> and have it be paid by mexico
<2> gopp, and regarding catholic emergency care facilities... they turned over my unpaid bills top collection aganecies and its still on my credit report!
<2> $120
<2> top/to
<0> Linus-- well you make good income
<0> I suggest
<2> not then
<0> but they imply that you do know
<0> on that ****s
<0> oh that ****s
<2> theyve been hounding me for 7 years over 120$
<0> Linus-- well catholic church is not prefecrt
<2> imagine how much illegals cost them
<0> Linus-- but illegal get charity care
<0> and if they are undocumented they can lie on thier place of location
<6> Why don't you just pay the ****ing $120?
<0> thus no credit report
<2> i know, when i was director of a boys club we sponsored a catholic charities mobile health clinic which serviced the uninsured
<0> TheTailor cuase the catholic church should help him
<0> that her goal is to help people
<6> No they shouldn't
<3> any implication that the catholic church is perfect is just about as profoudly stupid as saying man was created in the image of god
<6> He has the money
<1> Microsoft could release early a patch for a loophole in its Word program that virus writers are already exploiting.
<1> If users get infected by the virus, attackers could open up a backdoor on the PC and take over the machine to use it for their own ends.
<1> A fix is due for release in mid-June but Microsoft said it would bring it forward if the action was "warranted".
<1> niiiice
<0> TheTailor it a reglious club to help the needy
<2> TheTailor, i plan on it, i just got the damn credit report
<6> He's not needy
<0> Linus-- your not needy
<0> TheTailor is right, pay up
<2> but there are also faulty debts on there that don't belong which i am trying to weed out
<0> your not needy
<6> Linus-- = cheap prick
<2> eg, $90 for pacbell service which i demanded be removed the day the guy came to connect it
<1> man i wished it would rain or whatever its going to, i feel like someone dropped me off a bridge in my sleep
<6> Lives in San Francisco and can't pay $120
<2> TheTailor, even if i did pay the money now, you think it actually goes back to the urgent care center? they sold the debt years ago to collections
<2> the collections agency pays pennies on the dollar for the right to collect the debt
<6> Linus--, so what
<6> Linus--, you still owe the debt
<2> all I'm saying is the debt has already been absorbed by the provider
<6> Linus--, so that means you shouldn't pay it?
<1> hahaha and then whine about why health care is so expensive!
<1> good GOD!
<6> `426-Hemi, health care is stupidly expensive
<2> oh come on, if evry american jilted the system for $120 (the cost of a box of tissues in critical care), our system would be in damn good shape
<6> Linus-- = cheap prick
<1> TheTailor yeh, because people like Linus who don't pay their bills have it p***ed on to everyone else
<2> when compared to the $600 and up for an ER visit unpaid for by uninsureds
<1> it all adds up over time
<7> Anybody else things its sad that 63.4 million votes were cast on American Idol last night...more than any presidential victor has received...EVER
<2> y'all probably jilt the govt of way more than that annully by bull****ting on your 1040s
<8> that is sad
<9> loco, alot of them were probably 14 year old girls
<7> you know, maybe if citizens are allowed to phone in their votes so they don't have to get their fat lazy ***es off the couch, we'd have a higher turnout
<2> l0, people vote 20+ times each
<8> yeh thats true
<6> L0c0, no, being as none of them had to go to the polls or register
<2> so its not like that many people voted individually
<8> no most of the voters were kids
<8> that is a kiddie show
<2> you can't compare 63 million votes which come from maybe 10 million voters to our 1 vote, 1 person govt elections system
<7> even if they vote 20times each, that's still over 3million votes...3 million people participating...the difference that 3million could have had in the last 2 elections either way making clear cut winners or turning things around
<6> Linus--, shure he can, he's loco.
<6> sure even
<2> oh ;)
<7> Linus--: recall how close the 2000 election was
<2> L0c0, now you're ***uming that none of the idol voters went to the polls
<7> haha i have my doubts
<7> :-D
<6> L0c0 thinks voting for American Idol is the same thing as a presidential election, forget about being 18, or registarion, or going to the polls, it's the SAME THING!
<7> these are people that devote themselves to a tv show for weeks on end
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