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<0> Cry: i agree, it is great that he refuses to step down
<1> CryArvach -- First time in American history, you speak nonsesne
<2> i could be a good politician. but i decided not to lie to myself or others
<2> so i cant be
<3> nope I speak partisanship
<4> it's not like each congresscritter carries an aura of congressional-ness about them 24/7, like a force field, which prevents laws that effect everyone else from affecting them
<5> fart
<1> CryArvach -- GOp is just as angry. This is bipartisan. Your attack is without merit
<3> I don't care if that filthy Pol bought his office..he is not above the law
<6> Congress Critters have a form of immunity ... they cannot be convicted but Congress can censure them and throw them out of office ... THEN they can be prosecuted
<3> AAman..it has serious merit...
<1> Congress can be convicted
<2> why are you discussing congress and not the white house?
<0> AAAMan: jefferson is NOT above the law.
<3> Soon Jefferson will blame...Bush



<7> Bush is invading Jefferson's privacy
<2> and so he should
<3> Lupine..Cunningham resigned...
<2> its the politicians way
<0> OcDoc: um.. only POTUS has criminal immunity
<1> Lupine -- Exactly, but one may not use this excuse to raid a Congressional office
<6> Lupine: none of them have complete immunity
<2> lie to control. we got the biggest liars on the top
<3> there was proof a crime was committed...
<7> WASHINGTON May 24, 2006 (AP) The Justice Department denied a news report Wednesday that it was investigating House Speaker Dennis Hastert.
<3> they caught him on video...
<6> but Congress Critters have limited immunity while congress is in session
<7> hmm
<0> AAAman: He is not above the law, and he should not be given safe haven to engage in corruption.
<1> Lupine -- It is somewhat similar to diplomatic immunity
<3> What docs did he have with him?
<1> Only somewhat
<0> OcDoc: yes, when they are actually in congress
<2> can i ask a question without being banned?
<3> AAAman...bull****
<3> Congress is NOT aboove the law
<3> yes niller
<4> who's going to ban you?
<2> hiw did you get conned into a war against Iraq?
<1> Lupine -- A Congressman may not be sued for what is said in offical business. They can call you anytnigh they want. You have to right to sue
<2> It had nothing to do with 911
<1> Lupine -- A Congressman may not be sued for what is said in offical business. They can call you anytnigh they want. You have no right to sue
<3> niller..I suggest you research the following topic: Geo-Politics
<0> AAAman: are you claiming that bribery and conspiracy is "official business"?
<3> Lupine..apparently so :)
<8> They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place.
<2> i understnad that its more complicated than that
<3> it is very complicated Niller
<2> but at least be honest about what you are doing
<2> no
<4> niller: that question is intended to inflame and annoy, not to elicit rational or logical discussion of the topic
<0> bmc: you know, last time I looked.. corruption and bribery ARE felonies.
<3> Miguk ;)
<0> second, he was NOT arrested.
<1> Lupine -- I am stating to some degree offical business is somewhat protected. Offical business is that which is conducted in an offical office
<3> Lupine...apparently in Congressland..nope
<2> its about telling the truth. or lying in order to avoid loosing support
<3> its CODB :)
<2> easy as pie
<3> Cost of Doing Business
<6> The Fairfax County police officer who investigated the accident had started to write the 81-year-old Senator a traffic ticket when Bryd pulled a copy of the U.S. Constitution out of his pocket and pointed to a section that he said the cop prevented the cop for ticketing him for anything because he, as a member of Congress "shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest" both while attending a session
<2> so busines is bigger than politics
<8> and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place.
<0> Cry: and people wonder why we have the ****ing government we have.
<7> niller: I was against the war originally, but once we act, my dissent ends at the shore
<0> OcDoc: the cop got bamboozled.. as a traffic ticket is not an arrest :-)
<3> Lupine...aye
<1> Lupine -- Senators have beat up other Senators during offical business, but police could not be involved
<2> i am still for finding osama.
<2> ill kick him in the balls if i get the chance
<3> Jefferson is a dotard
<0> AAAman: if a senator is raping a girl in his office, do you believe the police should do nothing to stop it?
<1> Lupine -- The outside police typically have to be invited in
<9> senators have also been attempted poisoned
<1> Lupine -- There are Congressional police to enforce the law as you well know



<4> for too long too many congress-critters believe themselves above the law, that they need perfect immunity in order to carry out the People's Business, unmolested by the Executive Branch or any pesky audting or law-enforcement body
<0> AAAman: and if the "congressional police" do nothing to stop it?
<2> but he didnt do it
<7> I say investigate every damn one of them
<7> twice
<3> AAAman...but its ok for Jefferson to use his office to facilitate other bribes?
<0> AAAman: if no other congressman, or congressional official.. do you believe the police should just stand by while the girl is sodomized?
<1> Lupine -- They have jurisdiction
<8> lets have congress investigate the bush admin
<8> thrice!
<7> thats been done a few times
<2> wont happen. congress is republican
<3> lets have the people investigate congress at the ballot box
<0> Cry: yea, i'ld love to have that kind of safe haven for a rape room!
<4> if critters can ***ault law-enforcement in the Capitol with no consequences, are we to expect that they'll investigate them for felonies?
<2> partyline is more important than what would be right
<1> Lupine -- If your wife calls the police because you are beating her up, and they do nothing. Can the wife call up the police force in anothe town
<2> keep the power
<0> Miguk: good point
<3> ye
<3> s
<1> Lupine -- You example of course fails
<4> Lupine: it's a good point, but a sad one too
<1> Lupine -- If your wife calls the police because you are beating her up, and they do nothing. Can the wife call up the police force in anothe town
<0> AAAman: I am asking for your opinion: do you THINK the police should sit by and just watch the rape go on?
<3> And you wonder why Libertarians exist??
<0> AAAman: absolutely.
<3> Lupine..Congress rapes us every day....and they stand by
<1> Lupine - Since when can you choose police jurisdiction
<0> Cry: excellent point
<8> you can call the state police
<1> Lupine -- Congressional Police enforce the law
<3> Jefferson will not make it to re elections...
<3> one seat for the GOP :)
<0> AAAman: If a congressman in his own office is raping a girl, and the congressional police refuse to do anything about it. Do you think another police officer SHOULD stand by and just watch and do nothing?
<8> in LA?
<1> Lupine -- I am sure they do a better job then your local police dept
<8> they reelected nagin in new orleans...
<0> um my local police department do not beat up small women because of their t-shirt
<1> Lupine -- Can an outside of your town police dept and see if they come running
<0> bmc: imho, the people of new orleans deserve to get royally ****ed over in every way possible for voting nagin
<0> AAAman: actually, they often stop to render aid when they see it. now answer mine.
<3> and Lupine...they should make sure none of our money goes into that money pit
<8> wonder if blanco gets re-elected
<1> Lupine -- Congress is much safer then your local police dept. You speak nonsense
<3> Congress is safer with what?
<0> AAAman: we're talking about constitutional scenarios.
<8> i saw we kick LA out of the union if they do :P
<1> Lupine -- No outside police dept will render aid what so ever
<8> say*
<0> AAAman: you want to say "no, the officer should do nothing".. but you dont have the ****ing balls
<10> Officers take an oath to uphold the law 24/7 regardless of where in the US they are
<0> bud: right
<3> it seems more and more of Coingress these days are caught with ****s in the cash register
<6> Privilege From Arrest
<6> This clause is practically obsolete. It applies only to arrests in
<6> civil suits, which were still common in this country at the time the
<6> Constitution was adopted. 419 It does not apply to service of process
<6> in either civil 420 or criminal cases. 421 Nor does it apply to arrest
<6> in any criminal case. The phrase treason, felony or breach of the
<6> peace is interpreted to withdraw all criminal offenses from the operation
<8> officers dont have nationwide jurisdiction
<6> of the privilege. 422
<0> Cry: and more and more, bungholio's like AAAMan defend them.
<8> county cops dont have jurisdiction in the city
<10> anyways, wtf kind of scum would defend someone who's obviously been caught with their hand in the cooky jar
<0> bud: one who WANTS that kind of "leadership"
<8> city cops dont have jurisidiction outside of the city
<0> AAAman: now, I dunno about where you live, but here in florida, various citie agencies constantly help each other
<0> And in fact, it was just a few weeks ago, I personally saw two different county sheriffs helping out on the same incident, obviously one was not in their respective county
<10> they will chase an 'allegation' against a republican for months, but when a dem is flat out busted they try and defend? wtf is wrong
<8> im sure they could stop some type of violent crime in process, i dont think theyll be stopping people for speeding though
<1> Lupine -- The help when invited


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