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<0> arcade: you're hung up on a moral dilemma -- the real issue is winning
<1> Btu this is an american betraying his own country
<2> US-Male: Yes, I'm hung up on a moral dilemma. :-)
<3> arcade: it's a dirty job, but someone has to do it
<0> first we win, then we can exist to talk about morals
<4> OcDoc: were you saying yeah to my question?
<2> US-Male: I freely admit it. :)
<3> spying is a twilight world of wheels withing wheels, hidden motives, vague criteria
<5> Free exactly If a man turs traitor I DON'T CARE what country he sells out to, he is STILL scum
<1> And the fact that he boasted about it and he spat on the US flag for years after his imprisonment doesnt mitigate his sentence.
<6> usmale married his furby
<3> PUblius: nope
<4> oh
<5> Lupine barrles fell off?
<0> redfish thinks that "haute couture" is pronounced "HAWT COOTER"
<7> pil: yea, look at that picture.. it is like only 1/4" deep press fit!
<1> And the fact is America does not spy as much on allies as allies do on us, we do spy but we collect most of our information from open sources we have dossiers on every country in the world.
<7> i heard some people knocking the newer generation S&W's quality.. but YIKES!
<4> you guys know
<3> some have complained that the advantage gained through spying is temporary and difficult to evaluate ... yet if you have fresh information just at the beginning of a crisis, it could make the difference between winning an losing
<5> I meant this and sorry... longish post:
<5> State wants faulty guns replaced
<5> State prison officials want gunmaker Smith & Wesson to replace hundreds of revolvers after dozens failed to shoot and the barrels broke off of others upon firing in training exercises.
<5> The company has witnessed the problems firsthand. Last month, three company representatives met with state prison officials at a shooting range near Smithfield to test about three dozen revolvers.
<5> Four of the revolvers didn't fire when a state weapons instructor pulled the trigger. The cylinder that holds the ammunition jammed on two revolvers. Then, the barrel broke off as the instructor fired a different model with a longer barrel, just as 14 others had in practice shoots dating back to 2003.
<0> not enough southerners here to get that joke
<1> France and Israel are two of the worst countried in the world for espionage and deception against allies and enemies.
<0> oh well
<2> OcDoc: Also, you can avoid crises by having spies
<4> The Cold War is just a name for the time period between ww2 and Clinton
<4> to most people my age
<5> Lupine preceed a url with > that way it doesn't wrap
<7> pil: i mean jesus.. how do you FUBAR a basic revolver that bad?
<4> we always failed to get to it in school
<3> USMale: I got the joke
<0> Publius: well, Reagan you mean
<0> OcDoc: alright!
<3> USMale: it was buried in a gun rant
<8> i never liked swith and wessons
<1> Pilgrim the claim has been made his sentence is anti semitic..
<4> US-Male: Not to my age group
<4> Reagan was in teh cold war
<7> pil: oh.. mIRD is like 1920pixels wide for me :-)
<4> it ended with Clinton basically
<0> Publius: cold war ended before Clinton
<4> I know
<1> But a democratic defense minister wrote a 45 page report on how he damaged the USA
<5> I am using mICE IRC
<0> so, your age group is wrong then
<1> And then he got an easy sentence.
<4> my age group doesn't know what the Cold War is
<1> A plea bargain
<7> "word wrap? we don't need no stinking word wrap!"
<1> But he didnt live up to it.. he mocked it
<7> pil: did you see the photos just a bit down that threat? i mean jesus.. never even heard soemthing like that
<1> And israel admittedly now... Lied to us then.
<6> usmale doesnt know what the war on terror is
<4> US-Male: I'm failry educated...I think..and I didn't know abuot these spy trials
<3> Free: I don't see anyone arguing with you ... you're right
<0> Publius: oh that was long ago
<1> Of coruse we would of been ****ers to beleive them anyway given thier reputation in international relations.
<5> Free I don't CARE. If I say that jew there, yeah you with the smug look and the forelocks YOU you are a JERK bub! I am tellin ONE MAN I DON'T LIKE HIM. making me out a bigot on that count makes YOU A BIGOT -I woudl say to anyone who accused me
<4> US-Male: That's really scary
<1> OcDoc, Pilgrim was discussing it with me, not arguing.
<0> Jonathan Pollard, convicted like 20 years ago
<0> and does not get much press
<3> ah
<1> There is one person who brought this up with me but he left while I was researching.
<4> US-Male: I read up on him
<1> Hes arguing with me.
<4> US-Male: who are some others?
<0> spies ?
<4> yeah?
<1> US, hes gets more press than most spies.
<0> there was some guy in teh Navy, him and his son
<0> I forget his name
<8> Soies like us
<1> He got life sentence
<8> spies like us
<1> the navy guy
<1> and so did Aldrich Ames
<5> I am sooooooo Sick of the Jew's kneejerk antisemetic lable anny time someone critiques their at times wayward ways
<0> Publius: most spies probably don't get a lot of press
<3> the difference between a "spy" gathering bits of information and sending back home, and someone breaking into locked files to steal info
<4> Aldrich Ames?
<4> ok
<0> Ames was the big story recently
<1> Walker was the name of the Navy officer caught selling intelligence.
<9> pilgrim`, Jewish folks are a helluva lot better then Blacks.
<0> Walker yer
<1> He got a life sentence
<3> each country has laws against spying ... usually meaning stealing information labeled "secret" legally
<0> yes
<0> and his son too, right ?
<3> but russia had laws against collecting information at all
<1> Apparently this information was very damaging.
<7> pilgrim: I do not "give in" to the believe that "anti-semetic" only applies to jews. I use it to mean any semetic people. So, someone who is against the palestinians are ALSO anti-semetic.
<4> FreeMrkt: Why just life?
<3> many american businessment were arrested for spying by collecting simple economic information
<0> FT: was Ames the guy who was into some Catholic "cult" thing ?
<1> They didnt want it discussed in court which is why intially they offered him a sweet plea bargain
<5> Fernin I dvon't care if it is a pigmy eskimo lesbian dwarf with a Latvian surname! stupidity knows no ethnicity
<1> which he violated.
<5> Lupine has a good point
<9> pilgrim`, agreed. :) I'm just saying they arne't nearly as bad about playing the "race-card"
<4> ugh
<1> US, Nah he was the guy who lived wealthy, Went to *** orgies with his wife and got lots of american spies in enemy countries killed
<7> it's political clap-trap to claim "anti semetic" only applies to jews.. do NOT give into this racism
<1> mainly The Soviet Union at the time
<0> my mistake .. that was Robert Hansen
<5> Fernin they (as a group) do not have a modern history of pavlovian reward for doing so
<9> Lupine, true true.
<4> nothing makes me more disgusted than thinking of an America agent getting paid by another country to give security information to the enemy
<4> or even someone who isn't the US
<9> pilgrim`, true.
<3> you wouldn't believe some of the stuff I heard about "swingers" while I was serving on the grand jury
<0> lol
<8> Publius like say, John Kerry?
<5> if albino left handers were given money for no reason they would figure out why and do whatever it was again
<4> DarthBurg: lol..no I am talking about the Cold War
<4> which I am slowly learning about
<3> most men will admit that they like the idea of "hawt" women, but from what I've seen, most of the "hawt" women are nothing but trouble, or faking it because they think they have to
<5> Walker was the worst sort of scumm and hurt us to a degree unparalleled
<8> Publius just another war the Donkies did not want to fight
<10> OcDoc, that's why you sleep with "hawwt" women, but you don't marry them
<3> panini: I suppose
<5> Walker and his family were the subject of a 20-20 news story befer he was found to be a traitor
<1> Pollard is a touchy issues becuase of the very unique nature of Israel and the USA and the sensitivity of the Jewish community to any criticism.
<11> Walker sold Stealth stuff to Rusisians?
<7> ocdoc: well.. "skanky" women are a real turn off for me
<4> DarthBurg: I can't imagine opposition to it
<4> Walkher who
<5> Walker sold the KH11 codes
<4> what is is first nam,e
<4> name
<10> Lupine, however never forget, sluts make the world go 'round
<5> ****
<3> the discussion that we disapprove of other countries' spies while encouraging our own is based on the "we're right and good and they're not" principle
<5> I do not knwo and do not want to know. his name is ****
<8> Publius oh, there was lots of oppoistion to the cold war, Donkeys told us Reagan was going to start WW3
<4> pilgrim: well I'd like to learn about this
<8> Now they Think Bush all ready has
<7> After about three minutes of capturing and cracking, the FBI team found the correct WEP key, and displayed it on a projected notebook screen. Agent Bickers, still speaking to the audience, turned around, looked at the screen and was surprised, "Usually it takes five to ten minutes."
<1> I remember an interview with pollard where he was viciously anti american I think he really buried himself, I dont think Americans did it to him.
<4> not like liberal education teaches about the COld war
<6> reagan is going to start ww4
<10> when Reagan made the joke about starting WW3 during a mic check, dems thouht he was serious
<5> Publius he was a naval comm NCO who sold all he knew and had a top secret clearence'
<1> Anti semiticism is not a legitimate charge here.
<5> google Walker spy ring
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