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<0> The Confederate Constitution was unconstitutional but constitutional only by the KKK and other seperatist groups.
<1> I imagine that if every bill was seperate and every law seperate, the confederate constitution would be M***IVE
<2> `426Hemi... it's duration was affected by the war, not it's usefulness.
<1> after a 150 years of politicians ****ing with it
<3> Chris was the only cool penn brother
<2> The Constitution doesn't expand with laws p***ed.
<2> Only with Amendments.
<1> ok get technical if you want=P
<2> Well... it's true.
<1> you started off saying "bill":
<2> bills are what become law.
<1> which is it, bill or ammendments that we are talking about ?
<2> bills and law.
<4> the current Texas Constitution is 186k - zipped
<1> Glock21 heh... earlier someone was talking about the Confederate constitution... it required all bills to be single subject bills. <----- in which case it would take truck loads
<2> The Confederate Constitution would have prohibited the 'riders' you were talking about.



<2> That's the only thing the single subject clause does.
<2> It eliminates what you were bitching about.
<1> i wonder how many trucks loads it would take to truck around every bill written in USA
<1> in federal
<2> `426Hemi... it'd be similar to the congressional record.
<2> Since most bills are read into it.
<2> I'm not sure how many shelves at the library they'd take up.
<2> Probably quite a few.
<1> I forget how many bills on average are p***ed by congress
<1> its quite a bit of them though
<2> P***ed bills are probably 100-200 per year.
<2> Unp***ed... probably at least a thousand.
<2> At least as far as public laws are concerned.
<2> The dopey private laws congratulating so and so for the invention of the new and improved staple shouldn't really count.
<2> They don't get added to the US Code.
<1> see thats all bull**** in my mind as well=)
<1> there is US-Code, federal law, all the way on down
<2> Meh... it's absurd, but it makes people happy.
<2> US-Code is just a compilation of the laws p***ed.
<1> **** that would never p*** muster if it was attempted to be added to the constitution
<2> You can refer to the specific bill p***ed, but it usually doesn't make a lot of sense in most bills.
<5> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Canada_election_2006_v2.png
<5> No purple canada =(
<1> i mean lets face it, the majority of the people would throw out the entire crap
<6> MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- A Mexican government commission said Tuesday it will distribute at least 70,000 maps showing highways, rescue beacons and water tanks in the Arizona desert to curb the death toll among illegal border crossers.
<4> 169 public laws in 109th congress
<2> It's just a way to see the laws p***ed in a human readable form.
<6> what the ****age
<2> The majority of people are idiots.
<2> The central flaw in democracy.
<1> i don't believe that the majority of the people are idiots
<1> never have
<6> Glock21: theres more flaws with democracy than that
<2> MikeyD... aye, it's the *central* flaw imho.
<7> that's because...
<2> Not the only one.
<7> oh n/m ;)
<8> 50% of all people are dumber than the average person
<8> and the average person is kinda dumb
<1> bull****
<7> exactly!
<8> you say bull**** but its irrefutable
<8> its the truth
<9> Some arrogance is flowing pretty deeply in here
<2> People generally know certain topics fairly well... but as far as comprehensive knowledge... not at all.
<7> your dumbness ran over my median
<6> i dont think the founding fathers accounted for our stupid our population would become over time
<6> our/how
<7> apathy
<8> the founding fathers didnt trust us to elect a president
<7> complacency
<7> resignation
<8> or even the senate
<4> sure they did - that's why most folks couldn't vote under the original scheme
<6> good point
<7> the founding fathers foresaw marion barry
<2> If you stop and interview 50 random people in the street you'll find that most of them are blissfully unaware of most political studies, economics, foreign policy issues, historical background of nations we are dealing with and often their own.
<6> i guess back in those days they figured that if you didnt pull your own weight, youd die
<6> its too damned bad we cant go back to that
<5> Glock21, thats exactly why we don't have direct democracy
<5> and nor do we want it



<6> amen
<2> Sometimes you'll find a few of the 50 understand specific topics quite well... but not the others.
<6> democracy = ****age and a halg
<6> half
<2> If you're really lucky you'll find 1 of the 50 might understand all of it.
<5> Democracy is a desirable system, to a point
<7> just watch Fox and Friends for evidence of sheer stupidity
<7> and emasculation
<6> good god i hate that show
<2> Democracy keeps people complacent by giving them the impression they are in charge.
<6> im glad i dont have cable
<2> Helps keep the revolts down...
<7> the 2 "men" are about as whipped as possible
<1> "The people cannot be all, and always, well-informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty." --Thomas Jefferson
<2> In the mean time you have to control their perception so the gov't can do what is necessary in spite of them.
<6> its just a morning long love fest
<5> Actually, case in point, I was sitting in on a political science cl*** at the University I work at yesterday, a Democracy cl***, and the proffessor was talking about 'degrees' of democracy, and aparently the further left you go the more democratic you are, legislated equality such as affirmative action (reverse-descrimination) is more democratic then equal opportunity in his view
<5> If thats true, Democracy is only desirable up until a point
<2> `426Hemi... yeah Jefferson was a mobocracy advocate.
<6> yeah, up until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury
<2> He was a bit 'whacked' as the kids say these days.
<1> heh mobocracy
<6> or authorize the taking of other peoples ***ets by force to give to themselves
<2> His revolutionary views get the big thumbs up from me.
<2> His government views get a big thumbs down.
<1> good one, there is something majorly wrong with representation i geuss in YOUR opinion=)
<6> and then when you balk at such a concept, youre accused of being greedy and selfish
<6> now
<2> `426Hemi... no, it's useful in keeping the sheep complacent.
<6> forgive me if im wont
<6> err
<6> wrong
<2> But it doesn't alleviate the job of the shepherd.
<7> won't
<7> to **** the sheep?
<1> and who decides who is the shepherd and who is the sheep?
<7> the sheperds **** us over all the time, and we remain complacent
<6> but i was always under the impression that selfishness and greed usually described people who constantly desired other peoples time, life, money and ***ets
<7> 426, well each election theres nothing but baaaaaaaaaas choices
<1> i mean lets face it, there is a revolution coming and its not going to be a pretty sight to behold
<7> baaaad
<6> but people who just want to keep and manage their own are greedy and selfish if you believe popular opinion
<7> rats!
<6> mice!
<2> `426Hemi... Well... democratic influence can be healthy in removing demented shepherds... but mostly the shepherds are picked amongst themselves.
<7> meeses
<2> The elite still pick.
<1> they do?
<2> But the mob can stop them if they pick one that is *really* awful.
<7> when the sheperds aren't ****ing us over, they're in bed with one another
<7> i feel fleeced!
<2> `426Hemi... the parties pick their candidates and remove those they feel are a threat through propaganda and smear campaigns.
<1> i personally am not one to advocate calling people "animals" and such
<1> the candidate can move on if he so chooses
<2> The people have influence... but their input is far more indirect than they'd like to admit.
<7> witness katherine harris
<1> Glock, and.... who makes the party?
<7> she was used up and spit out
<6> we had some animals in the local news today
<8> katherine harris has zero integrity
<8> just look at her past
<2> `426Hemi... a political elite with all the money and power of the party and millions of sheep who they influence with that money and power.
<6> Two people are dead and their two sons hospitalized in a murder-suicide in Cobb County.
<6> Austell police were called to the house on Newnan Circle. The call came from Louisiana, with the caller frantically telling the 911 operator that a man claimed he had killed his girlfriend and was going to kill himself.
<7> but she was leveraged for about 60 days
<6> The caller, a relative of the family, Hurricane Katrina evacuees, pleaded with police to get to the house. When they did, they found a man and a woman dead, and their two sons inside the home. One of the kids was in bad shape.
<1> Glock, hahahahahaha
<1> my god
<1> anyway, bbiam
<2> Scary ain't it?
<2> :D
<7> oh no, mario lemieux is selling the penguins
<7> RIP hockey in pittsburgh
<5> An award-winning pastry chef has opened a bakery that caters only for dogs in Paris.


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