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<0> yowz they can do whatever they need to do immediately, FISA court was created to handle that
<1> Janet actully they can listen to phone calls originating INside USA - if said phone call is going to known terrorist cell or group (or suspected one - from lists foreign agents have provided)
<0> they just have to apply for a warrant retroactively
<2> FreeTrade: There are UAE residents who are sympathetic to Al Queda. A lot of people in the middle east are. Such sympathies are quite rare inside the US.
<3> AmIEvil -- Read Art III
<4> if it originates in a anouther country it can be tapped
<5> i have
<5> have you?
<6> Ithink it would harm us more if we didnt because it would send the wrong signal. As Charles Krauthammer agrees with me..And he is no lover of Arabia.
<0> janetb ok
<7> AAAman has no idea of ANYTHING in the Constitution which supports his claims, and he knows it
<8> Why not have Judicial or congressional review of the use. Why have people working for the NSA quit due to strong opposing opinions on its use?
<5> you can't point to where in article III your argument is made
<3> AmIEvil -- What does it say about the limtations on the power of the USSC in reference to the Const
<5> so I ***ume you havn't read it yourself
<7> therefore he falls back to telling you to read it =)
<6> MrRod, there are Americans who are not muslims of the world, Black Muslims which most moslems dont consider real muslims, and white radicals in the USA who think AL Queda is justified.
<4> Guest70.. show me when congress or the senate can keep their mouths shut with out a leak, and maybe they can oversea
<3> AmIEvil -- What does it say about the limtations on the power of the USSC in reference to the Const
<5> you're making the argument AAAman, site your reference, dont' ask me to look it up for you
<2> FreeTrade: Whatever companies runs our ports are very familiar with our security procedures (or lack of). That type of information will be easier to transfer to middle eastern nationals who are not sympathetic to the US.
<7> meanwhile AAAman has not read it, and has no idea of any text which supports anything he has said
<6> In fact in England the mayor of london is quite freindly to the concerns of Al Queda.
<3> AmIEvil - What are the limitations on the USSC
<5> i'm not doing your researchy aaaman
<6> I would of sacked his *** by now but they leave him in office for his humor value.. or aburdity value
<3> US-Male -- Quote the limitations on the USSc in the Cnst
<7> AAAman: you do not give quizzes about documents you have not read
<7> AAAman has no idea of ANYTHING in the Constitution which supports his claims, and he knows it
<7> AAAman: state where the Constitution supports you, or stfu
<6> actually right now he has been suspended from his office for 3 days, but on a unrelated matter. or at least not the matter I was speaking of.
<6> I dont think its amusing to put idiot mayors in cities because its funny and a joke to the world, but I say Portland Oregon do the same thing once.
<2> FreeTrade: Even if you count Black Muslims and other radical groups there are relatively few people in the US who support Al Queda's goals. A much higher portion of people in the middle east are sympathetic to Al Queda.
<9> Most mayors seem like total idiots.
<6> Al queda is international, Thats fair to say. I dont think geography is very important.
<7> yeah. AAAman is a clueless troll.
<9> close to 100% of them
<7> no wonder he was banned for so long
<2> FreeTrade: Britian was oddly supportive of radical Muslims until their subway system was attacked.
<10> twobar is mayor of ***ytown
<9> AAAman is lionesque and contains prurient interests
<6> except that it makes it harder to catch them in the afghan/pakistan border area.
<11> Twobar: What do mayors even do these days? Raise taxes, fix roads, fix sewers? It isn't exactly inspiring work.
<6> really its sick, People in the USA Sympathize with Al queda.
<8> The simple fact is, do you think the government has the ability to monitor all forms of communication to the middle east?
<1> Saw where Al Qaeda group attacked Saudi Oil Well or tried to
<9> redfish says to his womang, "say baby, you wanna reach over there and light me up another marlboro ?"
<12> twobar, i love what you've done with your hair....what's left of it
<13> Twobar wears ballet shoes.
<10> twobar's wifes name is Flo
<2> praxis9: It's inspiring when the pot holes on your highway finally get fixed.
<9> praxis, it seems like arrogant fools run for mayor
<7> Guest70: hrm well that's a question, not a fact
<9> yowz, all 8 hairs !
<11> MrRod: Uh. Somewhat. Yes.
<6> And we just broke up another cel recently in the last couple weeks, but we must remeber the cell was broken thanks to the work of several arab americans who turned them in and spied on them and were willing to testify gainst them.
<14> hi oakster
<5> they get pops
<1> FreeTrade heard that --
<14> oops
<13> FT, yeah, heh, gotta love it :-)
<10> hi rebec
<14> guess that was dumb of me
<14> hey redfish
<10> rebec does twobar being mayor of ***ytown make him more attractiv
<6> TT> thats the type of relationship we need to nurture with our arab american brothers.
<6> Because we are all americans until someone tries to **** us
<13> Ft, indeed.
<5> what point was AAAman trying to make anyway?
<14> redfish no
<5> now that I have article III in front of me....
<5> on paper
<14> but you being mayor of ***ytown makes you more attractive redfish
<1> AmIEvil danged if i know -- but he failed
<5> i stole the constitution
<8> Yes, we live in a time where terrorism is a reality; however, when fear is strong, afraid is what you should be. I am more affraid of the NSA spying and the consequences of the Patriot act then terrorists.
<5> really...
<11> Guest: The NSA doesn't want to cut your freakin' head off and incinerate your family.
<11> These bastards do.
<8> I would rather die then loose my freedom.
<8> I would fight for my freedom
<5> he values his private library records over his life
<6> Guest70, which freedoms ?
<1> 70 -- so far you have lost what??
<6> We all have given up freedoms to live in a society
<6> But I agree some are inviolable.
<8> I value my childrens and their childrens future over my life
<6> Particularly the 1st and 2nd amendment to the constitution.
<15> Women are an "inverse reality" being who should NOT have power. Anytime they can't accept a reality... they invent an "alternate reality" to substitute for it and then disbelieve the REAL reality. ASk a woman in a 16 age of consent state what the age of consent is. She will say 18-her inverse reality. IQ. There are 5.5 million male geniuses per 1 million female geniuses. "male brain=female brain"=feminist inverse reality
<5> nobody cries about the loss of freedoms when they fight orginized criime
<6> If I can't speak freely and own guns for my use, sport, pleasure or self defense, then I am very concerned.
<2> Ok, people, are exotic gr*** window shades too 1970's?
<6> Night MrRod, TTYL!~
<2> FreeTrade: Good night. Have fun at the movies!
<5> yet withouth the patriot act, it's easier to fight orginized crime than terrorism
<11> Guest is worried about a very particular "freedom," namely the "freedom" to call Syrian lunatics at 3:00 AM without Uncle Sam listening in.
<6> Thanks, Enjoy cleaning the living room!
<2> FreeTrade: And bathroom.
<1> we gotta get rid of the aol lamers -- not our good peeps - but the lamers.. not allow them in here
<16> http://z.about.com/d/scifi/1/0/r/F/1/bgsgall12.jpg
<11> What a sterling example of "freedom."
<1> NITE -- FreeTrade
<16> will they finally get it on?
<17> Whats on the screen for tonight FreeTrade ?
<6> MrRod, Damn you are going to be busy, you need a maid!
<2> Kaliuna: Like which one?
<9> MrRod is practicing to be a maid
<2> FreeTrade: Nah.
<2> Twobar is now imagining MrRod in a french maid uniform.
<1> MrR -- huh???? I asked guest which freedom he/she/it has lost...
<2> Without panties.
<9> hot dam !!
<6> Comet, ahh.. hmm Maybe this mobster movie, I forgot the name of it, It isnt goodfellows, its centered around 1917.
<6> Early mafia..
<1> MrR - and aol group well we know who are regulars are... should be a script to allow just those...
<17> godfather?
<6> Did you know that J.Edgar Hoover denied the mafia existed into the 1950s ?
<8> Yes, I see all indications pointing to the patriot act being used for the war on drugs. I am all for a drug free society, but not at the expense of my liberties.
<6> Its not the god father its a one movie flic.
<6> k
<11> Now. All of the brainy people belong to AOL.
<2> FreeTrade: The Mafia also denied they existed.
<2> praxis9 usess AOL.
<6> I think its called gangsters or, Mafia or something its not very inventive as a title ;)
<14> predition? road to predition?
<6> Mrrod hahahahaha
<18> the mafia in aol
<6> I have never heard that before..
<6> thats funny
<6> Hey Rebec!
<3> Nixon was charged in Article II of his bill of impeachment with illegal wiretapping for what he, too, claimed were national security reasons.
<5> was that with Christian Slater?
<14> hey free
<1> afk 4 a few
<6> Nixon didnt do illegal wiretapping.
<6> he did ignorant wiretapping
<2> FreeTrade: I even saw an interview with a Mafia man. He said organized crime did not exist because crime by its nature was disorganized.
<5> "unorginized crime"
<6> He had every right I think .. Well maybe i am wrong, to tap his own administration meetings.
<19> ebay is too dangerous someone stole my id and use it to bid big time
<5> or "disorginized crime"
<6> It was a recording system more than a tap
<6> In fact it was a recording system
<2> FreeTrade: Reminded me of another interview with a Black Muslim stating that, by definition, black people could not be racists.
<19> and ebay will take money out of my bank for the bid
<6> and its what buried him
<3> Nixon had wiretapped five members of his national security staff, two newsmen, and a staffer at the Department of Defense. These people were targeted because Nixon's plans for dealing with Vietnam -- we were at war at the time -- were ending up on the front page of the New York Times.
<6> without it, Nixon probably would of got off.
<17> oakster .. how did they get your id?
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