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<0> and beneath contempt
<1> Nemes: No. I don't have much sympathy for the IRA. I do have sympathy for Irish nationalism.
<2> Mandela would be termed a terrorist, wouldn't he?
<3> BJ: Mandela was a terrorist
<3> okay ... gotta go to work
<4> Cry:Arvach: LOLOLOL
<2> so was Washington
<5> is there anybody here who have a little idea about ostachi-channel inflammation please? any ottorino?
<6> Mandela is a socialist
<2> so was Washington
<1> Nemes: The Irish nationalists are fully justified in their anger against the British. I have no doubt on that. I don't approve of the IRA's methods. I think they're a bunch of thugs.
<5> i think he's racist cryhavog
<6> Who needs the bastards here anyways...as kill with god on their side.....
<4> The New Zealand Government has been asked by East Timor to send peace keepers to the troubled island nation. <----THE SHEEP BRIGADE
<4> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10383416
<6> blame it all on the women and children...as the bastards commit genocide...aye...genocide
<0> by those two's twisted logic america should be given back to its natives
<6> Publius...armed baabas
<0> thats how thick their argument is lol
<0> tey bul**** on abour land rights yet their living on stolen land
<6> Nemes...the Pope did not turn America over to England as a Papal Ducate in 1120
<0> nice
<0> lol
<5> bist du deutsch cryavrach?
<4> Australia's acting Prime Minister Peter Costello said last night that his country would send troops to East Timor and Portugal announced it would send 120 military police troops. <-----OMG...is the world...helpin????
<1> Nemes: It's unfortunate that Irish nationalists had to resort to such nasty tactics in order for the British to vacate their homeland. It's common, though. I have a hard time thinking of any case where the British left a colony without a fight.
<0> talk about hypocrisy
<6> nor did the americans use Ireland for a dumping ground of unkillable gentry
<2> 'lol' is such an ugly made-up word, I don't think anyone should use it unless they're being ironic
<2> India
<1> Nemes: The Indians were pretty much destroyed. There are some left but not a lot.
<0> No you just skinend indians alive stole all their land, cattle and starved half of them to death
<0> and to this day you **** all over them
<0> lol
<2> lololololololol
<2> rolf
<0> yeah carry on trying to hold that moral high ground
<0> lmao
<2> rolf harris
<4> Nemes: oh ****ing bull****
<4> not today
<7> Nemes both the French and the English were pretty good about screwing american indians lives as well
<4> not the majority
<0> rond, never said we weren't
<7> k
<1> Nemes: Bear in mind, the US started as a group of British colonize. So, naturally, we decimated the Indians. That method of operation came from our heritage.
<1> colonies
<0> rond, we **** on allot of peopels in our history thats fat i dont deny it
<7> k
<7> :)
<2> WE ARE YOUR FATHERS, AMERICA
<4> Nemes: we actually have given them land back, billions upon billions of help, but we still have a few corrupt ones
<4> hurting them
<4> of dollars*
<0> I just think its total hypocrisy to justify the kidns of things they're trying to while sitting on stolen land themselves
<4> Nemes: in america, you need to think about how it has worked out the past 200 years
<1> Nemes: Do you really think Ireland should be a part of the UK?
<4> Nemes: the irish? terrorists
<4> ;p
<0> Publius, not all no
<0> obviosuly
<4> joke, sorry
<4> yes
<0> most are decent folk
<4> agreed
<4> IRA?
<4> didn't they just do a ceasefire
<0> yeah sort of
<4> well half of the group wants it
<1> Publius: I get the impression that Nemes doesn't consider the Irish terrorists as long as they accept British authority. The ones who don't accept British authority are "terrorists." That's the impression I get.
<0> they decommisions some arms cashes
<0> etc
<2> they no longer have weapons, they've decommisioned
<0> but theys till run organised crime
<4> MrRod; LOL...depends on what you mean by authority
<4> the Brits ain't half bad today
<1> Publius: The right of Britian to rule Ireland.
<2> we're ALL bad
<5> yeah ..an italian girl was discussing with me in france how yankees m***acred indians &took their land i said to her: we have two choices :either indians to live like americans ..or americans to live in tants!!
<4> MrRod: *snore*
<4> typical
<8> Isn't this all over northern Ireland? The south is a different story right?
<2> we're as bad as we were in colonial times, just more bitter
<1> Publius: I don't think he see a difference between Irish nationalism and the IRA.
<4> MrRod: I think he does...
<0> TT, yeah just one section of that little island
<0> not all of it
<1> Publius: That's not the impression I get.
<1> England isn't much bigger than Ireland.
<8> Nemes, what is it about norther Ireland that England wants? Are there gold mines there or something?
<1> TheTailor: Most people in Northern Ireland don't want to separate from the UK.
<4> NrRod: well I need to lean about the British involvement...are they forcefully controlling anything?
<1> Publius: They are in Northern Ireland.
<2> how ****ing simplistic your explanations are
<4> MrRod: are they helping?
<1> Publius: Not in the rest of Ireland. The British were kicked out of there years ago.
<4> so
<0> heh no its basicaly all to do with sovereign rights and being able to place military there or whatever imo, allot of it has been stared up by the church V the crown also
<0> depends on what government is in offrice at the time also
<4> MrRod: so Ireland could help the region instead of the England, if that is their excuse?
<0> its a fooked up despute I dont mind admitting
<8> I don't see what Northern Ireland offers to England, there doesn't seem to be an advantage in holding on to it.
<1> Publius: Quite frankly, any government that wants Northern Ireland is nuts.
<0> its the principle of it now more than anything, that and the hsitory now
<1> Publius: Northern Ireland is a big mess.
<2> talk about your own backwater politics, not the politics of a country you *don't know anything about*
<4> What is the US official position on this?
<0> to many people been blown up now, innocent, for us ever to abck down.
<4> Nemes: right, for the Empire
<8> BJ_auteur, you don't get to decide or instruct others on what to talk about.
<0> nah we dont want to empire
<4> Nemes: send more troops to Iraq, thats a colony to fight for
<1> Publius: The US tends to side with the British. It's an internal affair. Every so often the US gets involved.
<0> england is anti empire now actually
<0> totaloy
<7> BJ 99.99% of the conversations are regarding american politics and the worst discussions are from euros coming on here telling us how we ****
<7> its nice to see some other topic
<1> Nemes: Time to re-take India. Go for it!
<0> in fact if you look at europe and america and the rest of the world, as afr as the whole melting pot goes and open borders for free trade, england is the one country that ahs taken the biggets leaps.
<5> yeah it's very violent discussion
<0> we dont mind foreign companies owning major companies on our soil
<0> doesnt bother us
<1> Nemes: Can Americans buy houses in England?
<4> NrRodn: hold on, I'm checking with the state dept.
<2> THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ANTHING ABOUT - You're talking about the ****ing British Empire, for ****s sake. It's like you've read all you know from a history book
<1> Nemes: That is, can I buy a four bedroom house in the posh part of London, with a 2 acres for a horse?
<2> yuck
<5> english call yankees as ignorants
<8> BJ_auteur, if you don't have anything to add other than crap like that you shold just leave
<8> Oh good, he did
<0> pollini, some do
<0> not all
<4> MrRod: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3180.htm
<0> just as some americans clal us all sorts of names and stereotypes
<1> pollini: American English as taken over British English as the world standard for the language. Doesn't seem to bother the British.
<0> many of them in here
<5> i think poe went back to britain
<5> i see american english is more delicate..i speak both
<0> if you put england side by side with any other country you wills ee that as far as international trade goes and busienss we have opened up our doors more than any other country, we simply are not interested in the old ways anymore.
<5> hi dedannan
<4> The conflict in Northern Ireland stems from a history of British rule, historical animosity between Catholics and Protestants, and the various armed and political attempts to unite Northern Ireland with the rest of the island. "Nationalist" and republican groups seek a united Ireland, while unionists and loyalists want Northern Ireland to remain part of the United Kingdom.
<0> its long dead, england is now all about itnernational trade and relations
<4> The GFA also provided for changes in both the British and Irish constitutions. Ireland ceded territorial claim to Northern Ireland, and the U.K. agreed that Northern Ireland could become part of Ireland if a majority (north and south) so voted in the future.
<1> Publius: The British treated the Irish like ****. What happened in the end is no suprise.
<5> nemes: compared to english empire..yours is a real success
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