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<0> MikeyD: and congress has been the one to increase it
<1> You say this everytime, that no amount of money to LA would have gotten that levee strengthened.
<2> i mean, dont get me wrong, i voted for the guy twice, but thats because ill take him over any democrat
<3> MikeyD do some searching and when you find me a republican controlled city council as ****ed as the one in Chicago, I'll just point at Detriot.
<0> mikeyD: the republicans in the house are far far worse
<1> You don't know that, all we know is that the budget was cut during after the army corps asked for more money to fix the levee.
<0> MikeyD: sorry, all of congress
<2> dude, having a plan and implmenting it are 2 totally different things
<3> actually
<0> MikeyD: he is working on it, congress doesn't want ot
<2> hes got the congress
<0> to*
<2> bs
<3> point in fact, the house reps tend to be more right wing.
<0> MikeyD: let me get it
<2> and besides, hes not reducing overall funding, hes spreading it around
<3> they hit it right on with immigration, good thing the senate "Fixed" it tho
<1> Didn't three states or four declare a state of emergency?
<0> MikeyD: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/20060503-3.html
<1> Didn't texas even declare a state of emergency wich with the approval of the us governnment makes it a federal problem?
<1> I mean texas is not democrat run.
<1> I hear the same blame shift stuff from you.
<0> Today, President Bush Discussed His Commitment To Keeping Taxes Low And Restraining Spending. The President believes money spent in Washington, D.C., is not the government's money - it is the American people's money, and our economy is better off when the American people keep more of it.
<2> pfft
<2> read the federal budget
<0> MikeyD: I have...****ing congress
<1> I mean you just told me I was one of the people that point the finger when something goes wrong then you pointed the finger at the leaders in the lousiana the first chance you got.
<0> MikeyD: Congress funds government
<0> MikeyD: not the president
<2> i fully acknowlege some really good efforts hes made
<3> sintient, nice way to strawman my point, run along an dplay now.
<0> MikeyD: to be frank, Bush has no need to act like Reagan
<0> in terms of
<1> Nice deflection, don't actually confront the issue just beg me to stop.
<0> being a total ***hole to democrats
<3> my point is welfare does not prepare you for emergencies well.
<2> you cant be an ***hole to people because of a party line
<3> sintient, beg you to stop? hahah get a grip son.
<2> you have to be an ***hole to people based on the issue
<1> What about the people that voted for bush who cut the lousiana fema budget after the corps told him they needed more for the levee.
<4> MissLaVey: whats wrong?
<3> sintient, doesn;t matter, since the donkeys in New Orleans never spent the federal money they got for the levee, on the levee.
<1> It wasn't enough to do it.
<1> See I already said you were going to say that.
<3> ahhh, its never enough for donkeys.
<3> they ALL say that.
<1> And you have no proof of what they would have done with the right amount of money because they never got it.
<0> MikeyD: Bush is just loathe to start a fight, I'll give you that
<1> There is actually enough.
<3> "We need more of YOUR money"
<1> THe amount that gets it done.
<1> Do you want the levee to hold or to complain about donkeys we will see.
<3> sintient, and, since New Orleans never spent the money they for the levee, on the levee, and instead diverted into social programs, what logic is there that MORE money would not be handled the same way?
<1> The amount was pretty big to actually make the levee a higher cat storm level higher and they didn't get that.
<2> my issue witht he gop doesnt end with bush
<3> sintient, wether the levee holds, or not, should not be up to the Federal Government
<1> You think they are going to halfway upgrade a levee?
<2> its pretty much the entire gop these days
<1> So why is there fema?
<1> Why do we pay all this money to fema in the first place?
<0> MikeyD: I just don't care for the hateful rhetoric you made in his name
<3> sintient, what does the acronym FEMA stand for?
<0> MikeyD: it was democrat
<0> liek
<1> Why emergency management.
<1> federal
<1> agency
<2> the ruin of the republican party lays on the shoulders on jerry falwell and pat robertson
<3> Federal Emergency Management Agency, and their role?
<2> oh dude, i mean every word i jsut said about him
<2> **** bush
<1> No you tell me I want to here what you say.
<3> ok, its not FEMA's job to clean up disasters.
<2> hes a piss poor president at best
<3> or prevent them
<2> hes better than the alternative, but really, voting these days is alot like switching seats on the titanic
<2> youre still gonna sink no matter where you go
<0> piss pooor my ***
<0> top 10 in history
<2> eh, well
<2> youre entitled to that sure
<0> you must be sure to clarift in whom you rank him
<2> i just cant say i agree
<0> y
<0> or whom you judge him against
<2> i judge him again the founding fathers, the constitution and the bill of rights
<1> That is crap.
<1> FEMA also provides funds for training of response personnel throughout the United States and its territories as part of the agency's preparedness effort.
<0> MikeyD: you have to judge him in terms of all other presidents
<2> not to mention, just about every single negative lesson learned in rome when it started its decline into ruin
<0> as well
<2> no i dont
<1> THey can train people to be prepared but they can't help prepare structures?
<2> i judge him based on what those 3 factors says hes supposed to be doing
<3> FEMA exist for one simple reason, natural disasters, or any disaster for that matter, do not obey state boundaries.
<0> then you do not judge him on an appropriate standard when you say "bush is a piss poor president". that means
<0> all in terms of presidents
<1> FEMA, in charge of coordinating all disaster relief efforts at the federal level. FEMA absorbed the Federal Insurance Administration, the National Fire Prevention and Control Administration, the National Weather Service Community Preparedness Program, the Federal Preparedness Agency of the General Services Administration and the Federal Disaster ***istance Administration activities from HUD.
<0> bush is piss poor
<4> stop ****ing insulting Bush
<1> They have the national fire prevention but they aren't about prevention.
<3> FEMA's continuing mission within the new department is to lead the effort to prepare the nation for all hazards and effectively manage federal response and recovery efforts following any national incident.
<2> when he kills of social security, the income tax, over 60$ of social programs and ended victimless crime, then sure, that would make him pretty republican
<1> They have the national weather service but they aren't about alerting or prevention.
<3> effectively manage federal response
<0> MikeyD: but Bush is 1 of 43 presidents. since you call him piss poor, let us decide where he goes
<0> in rank order
<0> ya ***clown
<0> !
<1> A of 2003 FEMA became part of the Emergency Preparedness and Response Directorate of DHS, and employs more than 2,600 full time employees.
<2> well, in terms of spending, noone touches him
<1> preparedness and response so maybe you should recheck things
<2> FDRs and LBJs spending doesnt even come close to bushs spending anymore
<3> 2600 employees. pretty small workforce for an outfit thats supposed to "prepare the nation for all hazards and effectively manage federal response and recovery efforts following any national incident." in a country of some 200 million, yes?
<4> if any body is insulting George Bush is here im gonna **** his sister and mother
<0> MikeyD: percentage wise?
<2> i dont have a sister, but if you want my moms number you need to log into your pay pal account
<0> MikeyD: you do know the key is percentage, not how much
<3> sintient, sorry no were in here does it say "Prevent" disasters, just to make sure we are prepared for them. cuz they actually happen from time to time.
<4> MikeyD: **** u ***hole
<3> sintient, spin it again sam
<1> Prepare for them?
<1> Like preparedness says?
<2> Dr-Sakuee: good come back
<3> ayup, with, training, I think you mentioned, and FED money of course.
<2> Publius http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb-0510-26.pdf
<1> And maybe a strutural engineering would play a part.
<1> And the weather service to help them call for evacuations.
<3> thats army core of engineers moron, FEMA does not design levee's/
<1> And the fire prevention service.
<3> Federal fire prevention is a joke.
<1> Wonder what the national fire prevention service does, what if it is about prevention?
<0> MikeyD: ah, cato. I love them but usually disagree with their spending plans
<0> MikeyD: but im readin
<0> one sec
<3> sintient, call the people and tell them to evac
<3> when a fire is close
<2> ive never known cato to be wrong in a single analysis theyve done
<3> thats about it.
<1> That doesn't stop a fire.
<3> imagine that, good thing FEMA is not charged with "Stopping fire"
<2> billy joel didnt stop the fire either
<3> lol
<2> he wrote a song about starting it tho
<2> something about liberache
<2> or something
<1> The truth is that any time alot of preventative measures could be taken, or you can cut funding for them.
<2> i wonder if he was insueniating that liberache was flaming...
<1> Liberals would say spend the money, life is greater than the cost in dollars, coservatives say spend as long as it doens't hurt the economy right?
<3> FEMA is a federal agency, and as such, has to rely on the states to do the actual jobs, like fire prevention, so there is a flaw in sintients reasoning at the very core, otherwise, we would have to believe 2600 people can save us all from anything, and I just can't make that leap.
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