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Comments:
<0> heh
<1> Well one of the good things you can say for the catholic church today is they embrace a lot of or at least consider a lot of heretical science, they have honored stephen Hawkings which probably drive some protestants wild for entertaining the possibility of a big bang series of universal development
<0> he was pissed about something
<1> You can say something good and something bad about almost all of them ;)
<2> FT...they are in a position such that they do not have much choice...
<2> they are losing adherents
<1> Almost finished writing tracks, I love the way xp allows you to set a priority for a process
<2> yep
<0> yeah, I have respect for much the Catholics think and do and most other sects as well, I just can't join up
<0> gimme that old time religion
<3> Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues
<1> Cry this is true, except in africa and south america which is extremely superstitious.
<4> the big bang theory is officially endorsed as a possibility by the vatican, right?
<2> yes..Africa and SA would answer the Popes call...
<1> Creating menus and transcoding streams one movie has no intention of fitting on a cd..
<2> but Rome screwed up in Mexico
<1> ;)
<2> they supported Maxmillian
<2> Iglesias in Mexico get no special tax treatment
<1> Cry I think so too I hate to say it. Mexico is a ****ing mess, I love the people but the country by all rights should be as rich as america and its filthy poor
<2> FT...thats Bushes fault :P
<0> some artists have mastered the technique of putting a high grade movie with good sound on one cd, I haven't a clue how they do it, most practitioners use two or three disks
<1> heh aint everything ;)
<2> yes FT
<5> MADISON, Wis. - *** education teachers must present abstinence as the preferred behavior for unmarried people under a bill signed Tuesday by Gov. Jim Doyle.
<5> lol
<6> Jett: double sided, or double density disks?
<5> preferred behavior...
<7> jett. im sorry, the church has had conflicts with science, but portraying historically as the enemy of science, which science won over, is just naive and wrong
<8> DA VINCI CODE - Sophie is Jesus's direct descendant, Ian McKellen is actually a bad guy, Holy Grail is Mary Magdalene (and she is buried in the same location the movie starts..the gl*** thing), secret society has always kept secret, Friday the 13th actually represents the day that society was supposedly killed off, Romans basically killed them to remain a world power and worship Jesus. That's the whole story. The secret is never reveal
<0> Kalomine, no, standard cds
<1> Gore says Manhattan will be under water in a couple years, make sure you buy 3rd floor or higher apts and buy a little boat and tie it outside your window ;)
<2> The church was the mortal enemy of science at one time...
<4> ClipSet2: that's retarded
<2> in some ways they still are
<1> Hes the dumbest smart person I know.
<9> Hey, is it the Hour of Power in here again tonight?
<1> From I robot
<2> Intelligent Design bull****
<3> While walking around with his wife and two daughters he made the comment to his wife, "society had its chance."
<0> fish, I agree...I'm not a contrarian and can't appreciate squabbles for no reason
<0> take what you can use and let the rest go by ---Ken Kesey
<1> To say science won over church is to not look around you, 85% of people are religious ;)
<4> well, in a way science won
<4> religion adapted
<4> science didn't adapt to religion
<2> Ask yerself this... is it faith that creates water form 2 Hydrogen and one oxygen molecule...
<2> or better yet...can you create GGod with your home Chemical set?
<10> cry -- ask - who created the H and the O to begin with
<4> and religion is constantly forced to adapt to more and more precise approximations of our model of the universe
<1> And unfortunately science thinks its a religion on issues like global warming where people like Gore scare people and little kids when he takes the most extreme outside possibilities and talks about them as the most probably events even though they are the least probably on a range of nothing at all to the worst thing imaginable.
<10> baloney baaba
<0> rw, amen
<2> Hydrogen and Oxygen radical breakdown creations when Oand B cl*** stars exploded
<1> he takes the worst things, hes a boogieman to kids, My kids are lucky not to grow up in fear of some dumb politians view of science
<0> science and religion are both more often misused
<4> hehe
<1> Probably = Probable
<4> well, the media and politicians misuse science
<1> ok my pie is cooked, got to run.
<10> cry -- and how were the stars created
<2> Science needs to be constrained as well...
<0> cyas, rw
<2> damn right it does
<11> hello
<3> good day Hawkeye-X
<11> has anyone here checked out Democraticunderground.com? :)
<7> part of the belief in christianity was that man should seek god and gods truth in the universe---this is PART of what allowed the renaissance to occur, in ADDITION to new discoveries. its just that the church as a political player enforced the dogma of 'truth' and often defended the conservative philosophical or scientific positions.
<7> when they defended against galileo they were defending older scientific interpretations. they were well versed in sciences
<11> I've been pretty active there for the last few years
<4> Kaliuna: from materials that gathered together because of gravity after the big bang
<2> but when its they holy roller contingent that want Human cloning banned because it defies Gods will....
<2> then they need to be slapped down too
<10> baaba where did the materials originate?
<0> funny, I'm baking tonight, too...trying one cup of cake flour mixed with three cups of bread flour
<2> if you ban human Cloning...you will drive it underground...and have NO control
<2> Jett..are you baking God?
<4> Kaliuna: you're going to tell me they had to originate somewhere and thus there has to be god, but where did god originate?
<3> Hawkeye-X, yeah its a buncha liberal blather as usual
<4> and if god was always there, then why couldn't material be
<11> lgcbmb: and I take it you're a conservative, no?
<3> god is there, he just doesnt care
<4> lol
<0> fish, a fine observation
<6> lgcbmb: God cares very much
<0> Cry, hardly, but sometimes I feel he's baking me
<10> baaba circular logic
<7> material is not abstract but subject to laws . people when talking about god have to talk about god in material terms but they mean something else
<3> Kalomine, where was god when 6 million jews were killed?
<2> and baaba is having a bad time of it too...
<7> even if thats nonsensical
<6> lgcbmb: same place he was when his son was crucified
<10> cry :)
<12> lgcbmb, that was to get rid of the lesser brethrewn
<3> god either doesnt exist or shouldnt be believed in
<0> a line from old Kenneth Patchen: "Sometimes I don't know whether I'm running because somebody's chasing me or they're chasing me just because I'm running."
<2> it resides in all men and women
<4> Kaliuna i was right though about you claiming that god originated all matter and he has always existed
<12> havnt you read the protocols of zion?
<4> right?
<10> no
<4> okay sorry then
<4> your questions seemed to be leading in that direction; i've seen hundreds of people deduce that there must be a god that way
<3> subjazz, yeah, its a fun read
<4> which i think is a faulty argument because if you always look for an origin for something then there must also be an origin for god
<12> yeh who created god
<2> heh
<13> I did
<3> oh ****
<13> BOO
<3> its the one true god
<2> God as a mathematical formula has also been expostulated
<13> lol
<6> not sure why people blame god when people are the ones committing atrocities
<2> prob an advanced calc equation
<13> rise, my child
<4> and at that point most people just say god was always there, god is eternal or something
<6> baaba: self existence
<4> and there the argument fails, because i don't see why material couldn't have always existed
<4> material/energy
<3> you see how this god stuff can get outa hand
<2> U****\ l << so much for divinity
<2> US_Male...been there..they threw me out
<0> Cry, my impression is that most theoretical scientists and mathematicians accede that they're up against a formulaic barrier and need to break out. Neither undertaking is as fulfilling as they hope it can be.
<3> :P
<10> ahh but the putting together of the material to create everything you see and things you don't see -- cannot be done by mere chance of combinations
<2> profit...
<2> taxing
<2> Publius suffers from ataxia
<2> atax of the Killer Tomatoes
<14> atax upon both your houses
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