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Comments:
<0> why so goddamn serious
<1> Lupine check this out http://www.therealcuba.com/CIMEX9.jpg
<2> Lupine? offended no? but I can't argue with someone who challenges the existence of the idea of the fallacies on the subject over whether they apply.
<3> Lupine: That's better than many talk show hosts!
<4> Yaakov: Thanks very much.
<1> Timur it all in cuba,
<3> Lupine: But that can't do it ON LAND.
<1> Timur so thier no such embargo in cuba
<5> Libertine: I did not deny the existance of the idea. I deny that you have provided evidence that you are an authority on the subject.
<6> gopp: no 'such'?
<6> you mean, no such thing as one?
<1> Timur and who makes the money from this sold products, castro
<5> Yaakov: the thing however... this is well known among parrots.
<1> Timur yes as one, even with the american embargo fidel makes his millions
<2> Lupine: odd; I am an authority as I have demonstrated that as I have used the fallacies correctly.
<0> Lupine, the miami dolphins?
<0> ;)
<1> http://www.treasury.gov/press/releases/js1161.htm
<2> Lupine: I am an authority as I have explained what they are; and how they relate to arguments.
<5> Libertine: No, you have not demonstrated it. You are now claiming that you have the authority to determine if you have demonstrated that you have used them correctly.
<1> this is a report of the cimex cuban owned companys of fidel
<0> wikgoppedia
<1> that a great report to read
<1> Linus-- lol
<5> Libertine: you made claims, yes. but no evidence or proof.
<2> Lupine: if my explainations were not good enough for you then that is your problem, not mine.
<3> gopp: My wife is fond of repeating what her Journalism teacher taught her: "If you printed in the paper that all the pigs in Indiana had died, half the people would beleive it. If you added a picture of one dead pig, all of them would."
<1> Linus-- read this " http://www.treasury.gov/press/releases/js1161.htm "
<0> y?
<1> The Cuban dictator spent more than six hours last week accusing Forbes magazine of libel for saying
<1> that he is one of the world's richest dictators with a fortune in excess of 900 million dollars.
<5> Libertine: it is irrelevent how your appeal to authority is, it is irrlevent until you justify that you are an authority.
<2> Lupine: I understand the fallacies; if you do not I can not educate you unless you accept me an the authority.
<0> cripes, its time we drop cuban sanctions
<2> Lupine: if you understand them differently; I invite you to correct me on them.
<2> Lupine: otherwise I do not see any continued value in your coments on this matter.
<0> we bend over backwards for chinese regime, our corps even help them spy on "dissidents"
<5> libertine: my "understanding" is irrelevent to the question of your claim that you are an authority.
<0> but, oh boy, that evil castro
<1> Linus-- he is evil
<1> Linus-- wtf castro is not evil
<4> "Be ***ured. Baghdad is safe, protected!"
<0> he hasnt done squat to us
<7> define authority
<2> Lupine: I am an authority because I understand the subject matter, and I have demonstrated that understanding to you, here - today.
<5> libertine: you appealed to authority, that was not logically justified.
<1> Linus-- nor has china
<1> and yes he done stuff to us
<0> if we sanction cuba, but give china MFN status, isn't something wrong there?
<5> libertine: Yes, you CLAIM you understand it.
<4> God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis!"
<2> Lupine: now you can deny me all you like; but it will not change what I have done.
<5> libertine: you have demonstrated that you do not understand them.
<3> Libertine: Nowhere did you appeal to authority, he is making a bald ***ertion.
<2> Lupine: you can appeal to authority if the authority is valid.
<1> Linus-- it was reported in the the new republic , that castro bioeng, created westnile Linus--
<2> Lupine: if you dont understand that. then well - you really should educae yourself to what appeal to authority is.
<0> i don't quite understand why the United States has turned its back on its own hemispheric neighbors
<2> educate, even.
<3> Libertine: The correct response is to simply disagree with the counterfactual.
<1> that castro had a team of biomedial eng, to create westnile and have birds fly to the usa,
<0> gopp, oh right
<4> Linus: Are you worried about Canada again?
<0> that's why west nile broke out in africa
<2> there ARE authorties :)
<5> Yaakov: He has appealed to authority. He can now deny it, but well.. ;-)
<2> authorities..
<1> Linus-- it reported in the new republic
<0> i don't care
<5> Libertine: That there ARE authorities, is irrelevent to establishing YOU as an authority.
<1> it a source Linus--
<0> new republic is suddenly a medical journal?
<2> Lupine: the logical fallacy of appealing to authority ***umes the authority is invalid.
<1> Linus-- well no, but it a safe source
<3> Lupine: I disagree with your characterization of his statements as an appeal to authority. Do you have a source for your particular use of the standard term in that non-standard way?
<2> Lupine: having comprehension and demonstrated said comprehension of the subject matter makes me an authority of subject matter.
<0> when the CDC backs new republic, get back to me
<5> Libertine: I do not "***ume" someone is an authority.
<5> Yaakov: *wink* I will appeal to libertine's authority that it is an appeal to authority ;-)
<2> Lupine: you ***ue I am not ;)
<0> i ***ure you, i am not
<1> Linus-- k but this is what I read, no I don't make the claim it true
<5> libertine: you claim you have comprehension and claim you have demonstrated it. But that is an appeal to authority right there.
<6> an appeal to authority isn't in and of itself necessarily invalid.
<0> gopp, its ridiculous
<2> Lupine: I told you it is only an appeal to authority fallacy IF the authority is invalid.
<5> You can not claim that you are an authority by claiming you are an authority.
<2> Lupine: go read up on fallacies if you dont understand this....
<0> since the disease spread from across atlantic to United States
<1> Linus-- it sound logical to me, with all the close distance and hate for america
<3> Lupine: It seems to me you have pretty well enscapsulated yourself in an infinite regress. Unless you want to provide an authority for your definition, you really aren't saying anything coherent.
<5> libertine: correct. you have been impotent in providing any evidence you are an authority.
<0> and introducing it close to home would eventually affect cuba
<0> its preposterous
<2> Lupine: want me to type out 40 logical fallacies?
<2> Lupine: i'd be happy to spam you in priv msg for an hour if you like :)
<5> Yaakov: the only infinite here is, Libertine claiming he is an authority, and the basis of that claim is, he is authoratative to determine he is an authority.
<2> how far ya wanna take this?
<0> Libertine and Justine (Bateman) for all
<5> libertine: that will merely prove you are an authority on how to use cut-n-paste
<5> <2> Lupine: having comprehension and demonstrated said comprehension of the subject matter makes me an authority of subject matter.
<0> dopamine
<0> poor barbaro
<0> his leg is ****ed
<3> Lupine: For the record, I am willing to support Libertine's claim of authority within the scope of his statements and this discussion. He has presented cogent definitions that are congruent with established usage.
<2> Lupine: ahh.. so now you challenge now my comprehension or my ability to provide proof; but what? my lack of eidetic memory? heh
<5> You see? Libertine claims he is authoritative enough to determine if he has comprehension on the matter, which makes him an authority.
<2> now=not
<5> Yaakov: Okay, and what are your credentials?
<8> Linus -- well he can still be a great stud -- they have ways ya know :)
<1> hey
<0> you realize that your dancing in circles?
<2> Lupine: well I am an authority :)
<1> Linus-- that circle logic
<5> Libertine: Correction, you CLAIM you are an authority.
<0> Kaliuna, yeah but that horse's life will be awful
<3> Lupine: What are acceptable crecentials for your purpose/
<3> ?>
<5> gopp: right. You see, if you poke and prod them enough, they'll fall back on to appealing to their own authority.
<6> good q
<1> Lupine :)
<2> Lupine: I challenge you tell me why I am not an authority. I have demonstrated my knowledge on the subject. You have been unable to correct a single fallacy I have presented.
<1> Lupine what is the best keyboard mouse combo
<8> Linus -- I dunno about that -- he seemed pretty good today when they showed those films...
<2> Lupine: the burden of proof at this point; is on you.
<5> Yaakov: well, in this field, perhaps a being a professor at Harvard on the subject.
<1> I need to get a new mouse/combo
<0> Kaliuna, it was raised to run
<3> Lupine: There is no appeal to authority here. You can argue with the deifnitions presented. No authority has been used to draw a conclusion.
<2> Lupine: I invite your correction.
<5> Libertine: I do not have to prove you are not an authority. You claim you are, your burden of proof.
<8> Linus -- yaaaaa ....
<6> Lup: how about Duke? :)
<0> now all it'll do is stand around and *********e
<2> Lupine: I demonstrated my authority; I have satisfied my burden of proof.
<5> Yaakov: Libertine is claiming he is an authority on the subject matter. The basis of this is, he has comprehension in the topic. He is appealing to his authroity, of being able to determine if he has comprehension.
<3> Lupine: That's so beautifully self-referential you deserve the brazening-out award for 2006.
<9> anyone read this: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000080&sid=aWESsJvt6CFE&refer=asia
<9> ?
<0> one begions to question the nature of thoroughbred training though when one sees a horse having to be pulled up, hard, to stop it from running on a shattered leg
<6> Yaakov: lol
<2> god.. this is almost funny :)
<2> haha..
<6> oh it is funny
<5> Libertine: you claimed you are an authority. you have proved no evidence outside of your claim you are an authority.
<3> Lupine: I am afraid that we are speaking different languages. Would you please define "authority" for me, I simply don't understand your usage.
<8> Linus -- as you said he was born to run...
<9> May 23 (Bloomberg) -- All seven people infected with bird flu in a cluster of Indonesian cases can be linked to other patients, according to disease trackers investigating possible human-to-human transmission of the H5N1 virus.
<6> he said 'maybe Harvard'
<0> not born, but raised
<2> Lupine: I demonstrated my knowledge of the subject matter, you have not done anything to say where anything I have said about fallacies is incorrect.
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