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<0> one and once.
<0> Timur, really ?
<1> holy, holy, hooollyy.. lord god al mi-i-ghty
<0> Interesting..
<0> hahaha
<2> well, i was born/baptised catholic, but confirmed episocopal and in the episocopal church for about 24 of my 30yrs
<1> GOD in three PER-sons, BLESS-ed TRI-nity
<1> etc
<0> I remember that song in church.
<1> the reverend was/is a fantastic person and brilliant
<1> yes, really. :)
<2> the church i grew up in was...different
<2> hehe
<0> Episcopal traditional is a very liberal church in the good way and sometimes in the bad way but generally in the good way imo.
<1> L0c0: snakes & faith-healin'?
<2> it was VERY white, mostly wealthy and conservative
<2> sadly, there were some fairly racist people in the congregation back then
<0> Episopalian ? And a chruch service feels more like a business social than a religious place.
<0> its like poeple cant wait till the sermons over and church is out so they can go drink coffee and exchange buisness cards.
<2> i dunno, i always thought the episcopal service was calm and dignified
<3> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01289a.htm
<2> not like the chanting and hollaring of the evangelicals and even some catholic services i've been to
<0> Loco, it was if you are a very moderately religious person..
<2> but i can only speak for my church
<0> its not a place for holy rollers.
<4> episcopalian is the upper cl*** of protestans i think
<4> that's what you upgrade to when you're rich
<5> Cry: Gety her!!!
<3> nahhh
<2> episocopal = catholic light
<2> :-P
<1> it's just the English church. There are lower-cl*** episcopalians, but, granted, few.
<3> not enough gals in here as it goes...
<2> diet catholicism
<2> all the religion, none of the guilt
<2> hahaa
<0> Well I went there, most presidents of the USA went there (because it was closest to the white house) My uncle is a Preist, and so on.
<2> and we only p*** the collection plate around once
<3> if e can get more..it might curb the testosterone levels
<1> in England, plenty of lower-cl*** Episcopalians. Canada too
<0> And they are all the churches I am aware of fairly liberal for a christian establishment.
<0> There is actually a high church and a low church
<6> L0c0: but episocopals can claim innocence from all the murders that the catholics are tied to..
<6> kinda like a fresh start.
<6> with half the guilt :)
<2> hehe
<6> "What? we never has a episcopalian inquisition!"
<0> My uncle was part of the high church, family went to the low church, our church had a preacher or "reverand" they had a Preist.
<6> has/had
<2> at least how i grew up, the church focused more on finding interpeace through religion, lots of bible study (but not live-by-the-word type stuff)
<7> Libertine: cant blame christians for the sins of the church
<2> there was a time when i liked going to church
<6> Lithium-: why not? the bible says we can blame the children for the sins of the father...
<2> lithium: yes you can :-D
<7> Libertine: the true Jesus doctrine is actually a pretty damn good model
<1> Lith: not totally, but partially
<6> heh
<0> Well since episcopalian are basically an anglican church of course they are very split away from the catholics and yet they have some of the traditions and pomp, especially in the high church.
<7> Its just that people used Jesus' name and religion for politics and power
<7> while calling themselves church
<4> jesus was a hippie
<7> anyone read angels and dragons?
<7> er
<7> angels and demons
<0> hmm.. Nope.
<6> Lithium-: heh.. Dan Brown.
<1> Deuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
<6> Timur: try another book.
<7> i was rooting for the vatican to blow up?
<6> Exo 20:5 NRSV) You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,
<7> er -?
<4> "for i am a jealous god, visiting etc...to the third and fourth generations"
<4> that's somewhere in the bible too
<6> nuff said.
<1> other books conflict. It's cl***ic Bible, different messages, in different places, for different purposes. Up to scholars to ***ess the whys and wherefores
<1> hence, exigesis
<6> heh
<6> damn the bible is no absolute? or even consistent? ...
<6> who knew?
<4> haha
<6> someone alert the fundies quick...
<6> they must learn of this earth shattering news!
<1> the Koran isn't either
<4> bleh
<6> haha
<8> Hello - God Bless America
<0> Hey Swig!
<9> so was the raid on Jefferson's office unConstitutional?
<1> no
<9> House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) told President Bush yesterday that he is concerned the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) raid on Rep. William Jeffersons (D-La.) congressional office over the weekend was a direct violation of the Constitution.
<1> it was totally merited
<9> I mean how else would you go about it?
<4> was it warrantless?
<9> no i dont think it was warrantless
<6> was there a warrant? if so.. lock the crooked politician up.
<10> "Iran conducted a test launch Tuesday night of the Shihab-3 intermediate-range ballistic missile, which is capable of reaching Israel and US targets in the region, Israel Radio reported. "
<9> hastert was mad no one in Congress was notified before the raid...
<0> It wasnt warrantless in either connotation of the word.
<10> But it's just fuel we need for reactors, honest!
<6> why would law enforcement notify congress?
<9> It sounds like hastert thinks he is above the law
<9> Libertine: I am trying to figure that out
<6> hrm.. watch them p*** a law asking for 'congressional notification before one of the is part of a bribery sting operation'
<0> The question is was it constitutional and a high court judge issues the soepena, and so it didnt come entirely from the executive branch. But then Constitutionally this is another area of law which needs to be sorted out.
<6> "I demand to be told before you try to get be arrested."
<6> be/me
<0> because you have two branches of the government agreeing to go after someone in the 3rd branch.
<0> On the one hand I understand the congresspersons opinions but at the same time you could make congress a safe house for illegal goods.
<6> 2/3 branches of government agree; lock Jefferson up
<0> Whether its 100 pounds of cocaine or 100k in cold (Literally) cash.
<6> frozen cash in tupperware..
<11> lol
<0> haha
<6> man, that would have been one hell of a tupperware party.
<11> I wonder if he'll play the race card...
<11> "do you know who I am?"
<11> a la Cynthia McKinney
<11> they're already trying to say it was an invasion of his privacy...
<6> the man accepted 100k bucks...
<6> as a bribe..
<6> on camera..
<6> dear god; if we can arrest Edwin Edwards by planting a camera in his office and watching for MONTHS, we can get this guy for far less..
<11> I know, but when you have enough money...
<11> Look at dumb*** patches Kennedy
<11> give me a break
<4> the camera work in these bbc nature films is phenomenal
<11> what do you guys think about the new Bin Laden audio?
<12> t-minus 21:30 till launch
<11> launch?
<12> Delta IV rocket
<11> oh
<11> The authenticity of the tape could not be verified. It was posted on a Web site often used by Al Qaeda.
<11> " "
<11> does anybody know what website they are always talking about???
<6> www.binladinnude.com ?
<11> lol
<12> al jazera?
<13> Libertine you're giving me nightmares
<11> I feel like I'm always the last to see/hear the "hot new footage"
<6> www.hotnudefootage.com
<11> I think Bin Laden has a best of and a bloopers tape coming out soon
<14> Sre, a fake URL
<11> everybody's favorite tv personality/terrorist
<14> sure even
<12> rebec: no, that would be http://www.libertine_fantasy.com/janet_reno/naked/cold_and_wet.html
<13> lol
<11> mmmmmmmm... Janet Reno...
<12> and her new page..
<12> rebec: no, that would be http://www.libertine_fantasy.com/janet_reno/naked/cold_and_wet/janet_jackson_nipple_ring.html
<11> I _LOVED_ Will Ferrell's Reno impression
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