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Comments:
<0> kobushi: if one randomly fires a gun into a crowd.. is it an "accident' that he hit anyone? No.
<1> it
<2> that's it. end of ****ing story.
<2> you disagree with that, and you're probably the one that's slanted.
<3> lupine: do 7 year olds in preschool really understand the consequences of shooting a gun?
<0> Renea: that is not relevent to the paragraph
<0> "A gun brought to a day care center by an 8-year-old boy accidentally went off Tuesday, wounding a 7-year-old girl in the arm, police said.
<2> you whine about 'accident', IMO, you're whining about too damned much, and stop watching.
<1> Lupine accident is 100% about intent
<0> sentence structure: "a gun" "accidently went off".
<0> the gun didn't accidently go off, he pulled the trigger. The gun did exactly what it is designed to do.
<0> now, if it was "the kid accidently fired the gun".. that is DIFFERENT
<3> ok, getting statistics.
<4> Renea: well... they should
<4> Renea: it isn't rocket science
<2> in this situation, the kid clearly accidentally fired the gun. bull**** reporting. not exactly slanted, but still bull****.
<1> I agre ethey should hav said "the kid accidentily fired the gun" ...
<1> but for anyon with 1/2 a brain that's the same thing
<1> :)
<1> or a whole brain
<5> Poor Lupine was tasked by Hades to look at every article for misused words which other people just find and ignore.
<1> or anywhere between 1/2 and 1
<0> Kob: I don't whore out my sense of personal responsibility like that. It also includes consequencies that a reasonable person could have foresaw
<4> KoBushi: liberals unfortunately do not have a half a brain :(
<0> KoB: then why is it ALWAYS wroed one way? very deliberate
<1> Lupine you ***ume that "accident" means no responsibility... that isn't the case
<2> the key point to the article is that this kid's parents are dumb****s, and I hope they're shot by their kid.
<0> I swear, half of americans are AFRAID of a gun lying there
<4> oh
<5> tweek, lol
<2> I honestly do.
<5> tweek, so much anger in your little heart :P
<4> does anyone have that url of the site that is videotaping a gun
<4> waiting for it to go on a shooting spree?
<2> I have limited space for sympathy :)
<1> Lupine ALL accidents have members wich are responsible; and can be held culpable
<0> kobushi: Okay, I put loaded a gun to your head, and I deberately pull the trigger and it goes "bang". Woops, that was an accident, I didn't intend to harm you.
<0> rcane: yep
<2> ^rcane: ****, someone should do that with a copy of GTA:SA
<5> tweek, my theory was that your sympathy department is full of sympathy for that gamer
<1> Lupine but that isn't a realistic scenario
<2> nah, that just ... hit a bit close.
<5> tweek, who Jack Thompson made a dumb *** statement about.
<2> **** I still can't get it offa my mind
<0> kob: but would it be an accident? by your logic, yes
<3> none of us were there, we don't know what happened. the gun *could* have accidently gone off.
<0> renea: yea, an AP reporter would know that..
<5> tweek, I read up on Jack Thompson a lot yesterday.
<1> Lupine only if you were so mentally retarded that yu didn't understand that firing the gun into my head would cause harm
<5> He's almost up there with Jack Chick in craziness and idiocy.
<4> how is a gun going to accidentally go off?
<6> Abusive Domain or User
<3> or it could be an accidental death, such as the child was playing with the gun and pull the trigger without aiming the gun.
<0> KoB: no no, I do NOT intend to cause you harm. I only intended to put the gun to your head and fire it.
<2> he's approaching Fred Phelps.
<4> guns do not have logic
<4> feelings, or intent
<0> renea: right, but guns do not suddenly go off by their own self
<2> at any rate, I saw a /. comment on the story, saying that Jack's response (the only one that's being published a lot) wasn't actually that bad.
<1> Lupine but you know the resault.... it isn't like driving drunk where there is any other possible resault
<4> Renea: why would a child play with a gun?
<4> Renea: why would a child have a gun in the first place?
<0> KoB; no, I do not INTEND the result.. you said "intent was 100%"
<2> it was just blaming the people on the forums for pitying themselves.
<5> tweek, did that set you off? :P
<1> Lupine but yu DID intend the resault
<3> lupine: well, obviously fox doesn't have a problem with it.
<3> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182605,00.html
<0> No I didn't.
<4> Renea: arn't they taught in school that guns are to be used with care and are not toys?
<2> I read through it and was about to put out a reasonable rebuttal, but ... I realized
<1> Lupine unless you were retarded and were incapable of considering the action
<0> renea: it is an AP story
<3> lupine: they aren't throwing a fit about putting an AP story up.
<4> omg
<4> renea is a ****ing idiot
<2> there's no way you can agree with that without first agreeing that video games not only kill people, but factored in his death
<3> lupine: i know
<4> acting like we all worship fox news
<0> and what does foxnews have to do with it?
<1> Lupine you would have had to intend unless you are mentally retarded
<2> after that it's all downhill
<0> foxnews is fairly anti-2nd amendment
<3> lupine: if it was such a liberal news story, why would fox have posted it.
<0> KoB: nope, I would have no intention to harm you.
<2> however the other **** he posted was clearly off even that.
<2> he at one point compared the incident to Columbine
<1> Lupine your just bein contrary and unreasonable
<4> Lupine: we all follow the book of fox news
<0> renea: because foxnews tends to run all articles and viewpoints
<0> KoBushi: nope
<2> that's just something you don't do
<4> Lupine: it is the word of G-d
<1> *shrug* whatever, courts agree with m :)
<1> me*
<0> renea: does it SHOCK you that at least one news agency will run stories from multiple sides and viewpoints?
<3> lupine: lol, okay, this channel just turned into #humor. i'm gonna jet.
<0> in any event, it is an AP news story, not foxnews.
<5> tweek, I really just don't get it.
<5> I understand wanting something to blame.
<1> there is a distinct relationship between intent, and reasonable forsight.
<5> But when there is something quite obvious to blame, that is probably a lot more arguable
<3> it's not a liberal attack on guns by any stretch.
<0> renea: I suggest you have some firearm training, and you'll then know.. guns do not just "accidently" fire.. unless you have done some serious damage to the gun
<5> why do you then pick the thing that is way outside the scope of hte problem to blame?
<2> yeah, he even admitted it himself
<1> Lupine though, it COULD be an accident if you didn't think there was a bullet in the gun
<2> and his family claimed he's been depressed since ****ing November
<0> Kobushi: right, and the reasonable foresight is if you drive drunk, you can not fully operate your vehicle.
<1> you ment to pull the trigger and cause a click, but instead a bullet came out
<3> lupine: i own a gun and have been around them for 33 years.
<0> Kobushi: nope, you said intent was 100%..
<2> you could argue that his supposed isolation or supposed addiciton to games (note the word 'supposed') fueled it
<0> renea: have the gun ever just "went off" without you touching it in any way?
<2> but he was a ****ing college student
<1> Lupine it is... but intent is dependant upon understanding
<4> Renea: the trigger mechanism in the gun failed... and boom! :)
<2> he was ****ing out of money and had nowhere to go
<3> lupine: i didn't read the article as "went off" without touching it
<2> I can relate to that **** :)
<0> renea: but the gun accidently fired..
<3> lupine: no
<5> tweek, that's cause you live in the middle of nowhere
<0> which means, no one pulled the trigger
<2> yeah man :)
<5> :P
<3> lupine: take the context of the story into accout
<0> SIMPLE english people: A gun brought to a day care center by an 8-year-old boy accidentally went off Tuesday, wounding a 7-year-old girl in the arm, police said.
<2> SD is a ****ing void
<5> I was going to say
<5> (Don't kill your self over it though.)
<4> lol
<4> "went off"?
<4> hahahhaha
<2> (ha! wouldn't dream of it.)
<0> Subject: The gun what did it do? "accidently went off"
<1> Lupine drunk drivers getting int a wreck are accients... because it's reasonable that somone can drive drunk and not get into an accident, many peopl do it and have many times.
<3> lupine: the use of accidental is meant to differentiate it from premeditated school shootings (ie. columbine.)
<0> kob: No, it is NOT reasonable
<0> Renea: yea right..
<1> Lupine it is; just not a good idea
<5> Lupine, we all understand what the writer of that is trying to say, instead of, well, diagraming their sentences.
<0> do you have ANY evidence of that claim?
<4> Renea: renea... my dear... please read....
<3> lupine: the liberals aren't using this to mean guns accidently go off all the time.
<4> Renea: read the sentence
<5> Lupine, New Years Day is a proof of what KoBushi is saying.
<1> Lupine it being an accident makes them no lss responsible for the deaths they cause when they do it.
<5> A lot more people are drunk on the road than the accidents.
<3> lupine: if we had no school shootings through the 90s, yes, you might have a claim.
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