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<0> http://www.solon.org/Constitutions/Canada/English/ca_1982.html
<1> CryHavoc: So does the US, but that doesn't preclude having a Constitution.
<2> Falter not really
<0> not exactly...
<0> the MC was a treatise of sorts..
<3> in some parts it kind of reads like one
<3> not all though
<2> Falter, it only applied to the nobility
<4> ty
<5> tax cuts
<0> In exchange for the nobilities recognition of the King as the ruling power..
<0> the King could not randomly dispose of Nobles
<0> the MC was the end of Absolutist rule
<6> 1?
<6> what a sorry bitch
<1> Oh brother, Harper just promised to cut the GST again.
<1> How about an income tax cut, un***y as that might be?
<7> Harper can feel the claws at his balls....
<5> he said a tax cut
<8> are any US chans carrying this?
<2> "We will begin the task of rebuilding federalism in the province of Quebec"
<6> no airbuster
<2> Air, Cspan is
<8> cspan cut too early
<5> yes C-Span is
<2> It's on Cspan now
<9> there it is
<6> the US media doesn't like to acknowelge canada's existance:P
<8> oh, they're carrying it agaib
<9> Thats a politician if Ive ever seen one
<9> bhahaha
<10> c-span has the cbc feed
<6> damnit i forger what channel c-span is
<2> Air, they had some satellite problems for a few minutes, cut away but went righ back to it
<8> they took a break for awhile
<8> ah
<11> suna: well, the truth is that canada _didn't_ exist from 1815 to 1970
<1> Even I felt a bit sorry for Paul Martin before his bull**** attack ads.
<10> c-span lost the feed from the cbc thats why they cut away for awhile
<12> I think Martin was a prick
<1> Harper: "The west wanted in, the west is in now, Canada will work for all of us!" WOOT
<10> probably was down for 15 minutes or so
<12> From what I saw of him.
<1> Ha! **** ya's, eastern Canada
<7> give his government 9 months tops, just long enough for the Liberals to get Justin Trudeau on line to wipe the slate clean..
<5> are you not happy Harper is the PM?
<6> damnit i don't got it
<6> oh well
<9> We will also invent a new Beer!! We will call it....Republibeer!!!
<6> i'll watch family guy
<3> i'd be happy
<9> yaaaaaaay
<6> you guys won't shut up about it anyway:)
<3> but harper is doomed
<1> JanetB: I'm pretty happy with the results, though I supported an NDP candidate who lost.
<5> oh ok
<13> Carol Iovanna incorrectly called him Stephen Harris instead of Harper
<7> I loaned my NDP vote to Liberals thi time :)
<1> Newbie: Fool.
<14> phatdan: steelers or seahawks?
<2> STEELERS!!!!!
<11> Yankee27: who cares. pro football ****s
<1> Newbie: Watch the Liberals side with the Conservatives most of the time, shutting out the real progressive parties (NDP, Bloc)
<2> Conservatives only got 36% of the vote, not a huge show of support
<1> Harper: "I look forward to working with all of the parties"
<7> haha, not likely, the liberals will call the shots, Harper doesn't even understand fast French.
<1> Problem: They all hate your guts, Steve.
<8> there it goes
<1> Newbie: No, the Liberals won't.
<1> Newbie: If anyone "calls the shots", it'll be the NDP and Bloc.
<5> Newb1e, are you canadian?
<15> mes amie, nous allons.....
<7> Harper the reincarnation of Joe (who) Clark
<5> Newb1e, are you canadian??
<8> South America descends as North America ascends
<1> Anyway, the only thing that stopped me from interrupting one of my loser candidate's many, many press interviews at the afterparty, asking him when the **** he was going to get around to thanking his volunteers, is the desire to not torpedo my own political career. I know who I won't be voting for at the next nomination convention, though.
<8> wonder if more free-trade agreements will come about
<3> south america has been a down escalator since the day it was colonized
<8> who needs em
<1> Hahaha, Craig Oliver is sooo sad that the Liberals lost.
<1> What an ***hole--Canadian media don't even pretend to be objective.
<2> Neither do American
<15> TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Alan Crotzer stepped into the warm sunlight outside the courthouse Monday and raised his arms to the sky, celebrating his freedom after more than 24 years behind bars for crimes he didn't commit
<15> that's gotta ****
<12> No ****
<12> 24 years
<3> he got off light
<16> what'd he not do?
<3> think of the innocent guys who get executed
<17> http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/bulletins/radionz/200601211019/2ad15349
<15> "A judge freed the 45-year-old Crotzer after DNA testing and other evidence convinced prosecutors he was not involved in the 1981 armed robbery and rapes that led to his 130-year prison sentence.
<15> "
<15> there's no known case of an innocent execution in the US
<5> there has yet to be proof an innocent person has been executed
<18> Abusive Domain or User
<16> that's 'cos their all dead
<15> no, DNA evidence is around after they die
<15> and is often looked at
<5> the one they thought was going to be the first innocent man to die, was proved by DNA he was huilty
<8> g'nite folks. Congrats, Canadians
<15> yeah that was a few weeks ago
<3> it's impossible that they could not make a mistake
<3> it's a human run institution and system
<3> somewhere at some point, innocent people are executed by the state
<2> If we get one wrong every now and then, too bad
<3> how would you feel if that were you, Rockfish? :)
<2> Yep, it would be
<15> actually this guy might have been there,. but the rape conviction was unsupported by DNA
<19> I thought every one in prison was inocent..
<5> remeber the last rapist they let out, cause DNA did not prove it about 4 months ago.. got out and killed and raped a girl in a week after his release
<9> It wasnt me....it was the one armed man!!
<9> attica....attica....all or nothing!!
<15> he may well have participated in the crime
<2> You can apply the same logic to imprisoning people, it's human run, we can make mistake, who are we to take 25 years of a man's life because we THINK he's guilty, you have to trust the system at some point or just let everybody out
<9> Ok thats enough
<9> bahahha
<16> According to the 1987 Stanford University survey, at least 23 Americans have been wrongly executed in the 20th century (Kramer, 32).
<16> http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~tonya/spring/cap/pro2.htm
<16> sorry my kb is sick
<16> Doubts are being cast on the guilt of a Texas man executed more than a dozen years ago after the crime's lone witness recanted and a co-defendant said he allowed his friend to be falsely accused under police pressure, the Houston Chronicle reported Sunday.
<19> well they were probably guilty of something.. shrug
<15> well in this case, two other guys admit being the rapists and said this guy was not
<15> thy say he was not there
<9> well the most important tool that decides guilt or innocence.....DNA testing
<3> bottom line, the state kills an innocent person, it's murder
<20> **** happens
<2> No, it's not murder unless they know he's innocent
<15> so? murders happen every day
<19> it's only murder if you proove he's inocent..
<5> well, none have ever been found
<15> the entire busniess of the deah penalty is to address murder.
<3> and it doesn't even do that.
<5> so when you can prove one.. then we can talk
<15> of course it does
<16> it punishes but certainly doesn't deter..
<15> the death penatly certainly addresses murder, by definition
<3> there are many studies showing the death penalty has done nothing to deter murder
<2> The purpose of the death penalty is to impose a just penalty for taking a human life and that it does when it is applied
<15> it also punishes
<2> Deterrence is irrelevant
<15> and, it has 100% deterrance for the person executed
<5> sure it does, that person can not kill again
<17> cost is high
<16> no ****..
<12> falter, and there have been many contradicting those.
<15> death is the only 100% effective detterant. he guy is dead, he is deterred.
<16> Is murder right or wrong?
<15> *deterrant
<9> Ynow....a dog told berkowitz to kill...I mean...a dog
<9> aaaagh
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