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<0> and the UK just had a bank knocked over as well..
<1> Cry: trust me.. you do not want to breath a word of wanting to kill the person.
<0> lol...a sort of crime rarely seen in the US now
<0> higgs Rebec
<1> lol
<2> it's a lot easier to explain self-defense, or defense of someone else, if the person's still alive. otherwise all you did is screw up your own life, too.
<3> all the current cops shooting at range stuff I see, the guys are using isosceles, Is Weaver "out"?
<0> I agree Lupine...
<4> KoBushi, I get checks for invoices that I bill in one year, and receive in the next; so I get 1099 forms that show more than I made because I hadn't recieved the check in that year. But it gets applied to the next. So overall, the IRS gets paid. That's all they care about: that you are consistent and they will get paid.
<0> but if calle on it on a stand..."I feared for my life"
<5> hey cry and Lupine...Lupine like my split lol
<1> pil: in many agencies yes.. due to the body armor
<0> they would have to prove I did not fear for my life
<3> ah



<3> I had not considered that
<1> pil: most do not have any real protection to the side torso
<0> the onus is on the persecution...err prosecution
<3> Weaver is still the best defensive position for gaining the tactical advantage imho
<3> and, it is what I trained to
<2> and if you were on the other side of the coin i'm quite sure you'd think differently.
<0> the accounting consistency does matter
<1> Cry: far better that you never have charges brought
<3> bean counters are destined for a special hell
<1> pilgrim: I use a slightly modified.. mostly to deal with my eye/hand dominance :-/
<3> Lupine southpaw?
<3> or left eye?
<1> yea, left eye
<3> I am ambi
<3> I tend to do some thigns more right some left but I literally can do them with either
<1> well.. slow fire target i'm slightly better with left hand.. but better with right for anything else
<3> prolly why I am dyslexic
<0> is dystypic
<0> Lupine...I also agree...
<0> I am stating a situation where I have no choice but to defend self
<1> pil: i can't fire my new single action army colt worth a dang except isosolese and one handed
<1> Cry: pilgrim and my point is: what you DO and what you SAY are two different things
<0> I can fire a .45 ACP better with one hand than two
<1> you never SAY "shoot to kill". the only REASON for you to use forc eis, to stop the attack
<0> I am capable of spin controlling that
<5> Lupine I would always shoot to kill
<0> hear hear
<5> If I am going to shoot something is going to die or be maimed severely
<1> rebec: well, high COM hits are the easiest shots to make..
<0> shoot to wound is bull**** you see on TV
<5> Cry no kidding
<5> course I don't have a gun so who am I to talk
<1> *sigh*.. you need to seperate the two: the action [ what you do ], and what you SAY
<0> if you are in a position where you have to bust some caps...
<0> the situation is self explanatory
<1> trust me guys, if you ever shoot someone in self defense, you do not want to ever ever say you shot to kill him. your *** will be in much worse shape often.
<0> Lupine..I agree...
<5> Lupine well I'd say they were trying to rape me...doesn't that give me the right to use deadly force
<1> when I had to shoot someone, one cop tried so many different ways to get me to agree I shoot to kill..
<2> if you can prove it.
<0> the SC is "I feared for my life" and/or "I used sufficient force to ameliorate the situation" :)
<6> In the self defense/gun courses that are taught here and taught by police they teach you to unload the mag
<5> Cry there ya go
<6> so I don't see how saying shoot to kill can hurt that much
<0> Lupine..the Onus is on the Prosecution..if it gets that far
<1> rebec: again, what you DO is to use the most effectie tactic, what you SAY is.. I was in fear of my life, I shot to stop the attack.
<3> a good test of handedness: which hand do you use to shave your left side?
<6> especially if you did unload the mag
<5> Lupine oh of course
<3> TN rules: "Back to the wall"
<1> pil: down strokes right hand.. up strokes left hand.. go figure
<5> Lupine but sometimes shoot to kill is what you have to do
<3> Lupien you are naturally a lefty, trained right
<2> i don't see shooting to kill as something you ever have to do.
<1> pil: yea, but I do that for BOTH sides of my face.. heh
<3> exactly
<0> Lupine...what I typed :))
<3> which way do you shoot pool?
<5> quanin I am sure there are cases where one has to shoot to kill
<1> rebec: but by and large.. a COM hit is the most reliable shot. More than a head shot
<2> i'm not.



<3> I leanred saber fencing 1st left handed.
<0> quanin..I own firearms so I will not have to use them...
<5> Lupine a COM hit? what's that
<1> Rebec: sorry, "center of m***"
<5> Lupine no problem that's what I thought it was but I had to ask
<0> but the gun banning contingent would not understand that statement
<2> if the guy's on his rear, he's not gonna be causing damage. so that's good enough.
<5> Quanin that's because you've probably never had violence coming at you
<1> rebec: most LEO's, self defense cl***es teach to aim center of body, between the navel and the neck
<0> COM hits are easiest to SC
<5> Lupine sure which could be a kill shot
<0> Head shots are harder
<5> quanin not always
<6> anyone here geting hit with IRC commands that fire off your local norton to drop the irc connection ?
<5> Cry I'd imagine
<5> Jim nope
<2> well, if they're smart it does.
<6> Rusty his getting hit the same
<7> kill all muslims, niggers and democrats
<8> Racist or foul Language or Spam
<5> did you steel someone's nick? sounds like they're trying to kill your connection
<1> rebec: "shoot to kill" would generally mean you are aiming specifically to hit the heart, central nervous system, or cerebellum
<6> No this is rond
<6> trying a different nick for a bit
<2> i avoid that problem easily eough. i don't use norton.
<5> quanin who says they are smart
<1> JimDog: wow, you mean that rumor IS true? heh
<5> Lupine but there's lots of spots in the COM you could kill someone if you hit
<7> kill all muslims, niggggers and democrats
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<5> someone get rid of the troll
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<9> Cajanek is banned (Requested by Glock21 )
<5> Thank GOd
<5> Glocky
<10> I leave for a few minutes... sheesh
<1> rebec: absolutely.. it has a high probability of a lethal hit.. but not always
<0> hrmmmm
<5> Glock :) don't leave me alone again like that
<0> )*)(*_)(_)*!!!! this is starting to get annoying...
<5> I'm trying to talk to Lupine and some ***hole troll
<11> Another genius I see
<6> so is the irc spybot commands
<0> yep
<5> Lupine true, but I am sure there are ways you can aim in a COM hit to be lethal
<12> Man... I'm SOOOO glad that I did ALL of my purchases via check or CC this year, once I realized my bank kept a record of everything for me, things for 10x easier lol
<6> very f'n annoying
<5> hey Kobushi thanks for the help with my paper
<12> Rebec np did you get it done?
<5> Kobushi yes I did and got it turned in as well
<13> Thank you to Cajanek for providing us with this afternoon's fulfilling intellectual content.
<1> rebec: yep, but if you take time to try to specifically hit the heart.. you are wasting valuable time
<12> Rebec did anyone else figure anything out? hehe
<5> Lupine right, but there's lots of others


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