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<0> Oh what is it, I can never keep up with all the psots
<0> posts
<0> I usually tunnel vision into the topic I am interested in. sorry.
<1> NY Senator Hamas Ho hillary and her co-Impeached pathological liar husband had absolutely NO problem with Communist China owning and operating the Panama Canal. 1998--William Bright Marine wrote to the Justice Department May 4: "I have yet to speak to one single American who is not outraged at the fact that the Clinton administration has allowed Communist China to obtain control of U.S. ports, U.S. bases, and functions of the Panama Canal. They today,
<0> Illgo back
<2> do you know bluejeans? Or why he is banned? He has a sticky ban on the bots for one thing .. and he was also picked up on that proxy list that mod reads off of.
<2> I am not sure if I should remove his ban
<3> dr house, lol
<4> He's ok
<0> Comet BluJeans is ok but can be a trouble maker, I dont think I have him banned if I do he used another nick.
<2> see .. the ban is reset
<0> If its a bot ban set by beige or kaye then its probably someone who has been a trouble maker with a variety of ips/hosts
<0> If one of us set it, Then I dont know who.
<0> Umm I think Kaye is around here somewhere ;)
<0> Kaye ? :)
<0> Comet or did you unset it
<2> yeah I removed it
<0> Damn I am not going to have much time today
<0> Cmet do you know who set it.
<5> Personally I don't care much about the sale to the UAE, more concerned about NSA wiretaps, but I think its a great issue to stick it to Bush on, because he has fear mongered his own consituants so much they don't trust any Arabs or differentiate between Arab countries
<6> CometBaby, you're a genius. !
<0> I dotn want to field work today on friday but its supposed to rain all next week.
<2> he had a sticky ban on the bots and he was also picked up off that proxylist that mod reads off of
<7> civilizations treasure their libraires. keep them
<7> sorry phone rang
<6> thanks you for taking the time to get me into the channel.
<2> weird .. he got in fine last week
<6> Much appreciated.
<8> collectors on the other hand...
<0> I think now the UAE issue is more of a security problem for the US if we dont let teh sale go through.
<0> Honestly
<8> seem to do the dumbest stuff to their valuables :)
<0> and my ***essment is shared by much greator minds than mine.
<7> libraries are kept with other jewels near the seats of power. this results int heir inevetable destruction
<2> bluejeans you can thank TheTailor .. when I asked about you .. he said you were okay
<8> but im biased since i only see the screwups
<2> I made my decision based on that
<2> and the fact that FreeTrade had not set the ban
<0> Well Isaid you were ok some of the time ;) Which is more accurate :) But I had no reason to want you banned.
<6> CometBaby, that was nice of him. I don't know what triggered all this. But I do appreciate your help and tailors.
<2> okay . timur . you had a question for me?
<6> lol FreeTrade.
<7> look at the fine colelction of docuemnts, and one of 6 survivng precolumbian codec at the Library of the University of Dresden
<0> Well who ever set the ban and it wasnt me would know the answer to that question.
<0> I dont know who set the ban.
<0> I did not.
<9> The incident has left Medway red-faced, but yesterday members were standing firm on their presidential snub.
<9> "We can't deprive the paying members of their golf, even for an ex-president," said 62-year-old member Wendy Alley. "But it would have been a buzz for the ladies. There's no Monica Lewinsky here -- we're better."
<9> Ms Alley's regular golf partner, Lorraine Bramley, agreed: "We would have played with him -- golf, that is."
<6> Well, I've had people take an instant dislike to me and become hostile, for various reasons, not related to my behavior, but just over who I am.
<9> hahahahaha
<0> I doubt that.
<10> But it's a different guy.
<6> ah. I was wondering if I had got swept up in a more general ban.
<10> Dynamic hostmask... probably why there was a general ban set.
<11> fascinating
<7> btw, the Dreden collection: totally destroied: WWII
<7> look at the Baghdad library for example
<7> twice now
<6> wiretapp, yes. I am often in #gaysfca. It's a local channel for chat, not *** hookups (not into that).
<7> back int he middle ages it was sacked and burnt by Mongols
<12> BlueJeans are you gay
<5> I'm not into chatting with women without the *** hookups
<6> Abydos313, you know, I really dont like that question: it usually means that someone is going to hit on me, or beat the **** out of me. So let it go.
<7> if you wish to preserve somethign of our culture; toss it away. at least that ***ures it will be buried and no one usually digs thru the garbage for treasure for a few thousand years
<12> you brought it up, why if you didn't want to talk about it
<6> Abydos313, I only brought it up because someone pointed out that I was in #gaysfca. I'm also in #catholics. go figure.
<12> guess you have to keep your eye on the enemy
<0> Believe me, I have never banned you for being gay or been mad at you for that. I defend gay people all the time on this channel.
<6> Neither are my enemy.
<6> FreeTrade, very true. You have been mostly fair with me. :)
<0> Im only interested in politics and how I am treated, or the channel in general is treated.
<6> the issues with gay rights and politics come up all the time; and there is always a religious aspect to them. I guess that's why ***uality/politics/religion is always such a hot discussion item.
<6> And then, which should take precidence: the will of the people, the will of God, or the rights of the individual?
<0> Ok, Yes but if I oppose an position on gay politics, that doesnt make me anti gay.
<12> will of the people
<0> It means i oppose a position for reasons which you would have to get inside my head to understand.
<0> For one thing I am a fanatic for the proper etymology and use of terms..
<1> Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Peter Pace said Thursday that the U.S. has a "superb" military relationship with the United Arab Emirates, explaining that U.S. forces use U.A.E. seaports and air fields for logistics support and for training of Air Force pilots. "In everything that we have asked and worked with them on, they have proven to be very, very solid partners," General Peter Pace.
<0> Thats what bothers me about gay weddings, I have no problem with civil unions.
<0> there isnt any difference neccesarily than the name.
<0> The name is my primary objection because marraige even in plumbing means joining opposites.
<1> gay marriage an oxymoron
<13> right.
<12> no such thing, something being invented by gay community and being force fed to regular americans
<14> we could call it "gay brazing" ?
<0> Ans in the context of weddings it has always been hetero***ual.
<6> FreeTrade, good point. The problem with "civil unions" is that they are presently defined differently in every state. No one knows what that means regarding rights and laws. With "marriage", it is clear and unambiguous what the laws are.
<15> do gay couples give themselves one name?
<15> like Danthony?
<11> that's one issue I don't really care much about
<0> I have no problem with gays going to churches and being "married" or using any other term they choose, I dont want 1000s of years of etymology changed overnight by a legal system.
<6> heh, etymology always changes, and not in slow ways. Look at "spam". Overnight it went from canned ham meatloaf to anoying advertizements.
<0> If you want acceptance, I would think civil union would be not only more self honest, it would let people know you are gay which shouldnt be a discriminatory issue in this day and age.
<0> Or you dont have to tell them anything.
<0> If you say you are married the next question is, Do you have kids ?
<0> And 90+% of gays will say no.
<6> Again, with the term "marriage", there is no question as to what the legal rights AND obligations are.
<0> So its best to define your relationship in a way which is different than hetero***uals define theirs.
<1> The U.S. relationship with the U.A.E. is so politically sensitive that the Pentagon does not openly discuss details. Some of those details, however, are known to include the following: 1. Air Force U-2 spy planes and Global Hawk unmanned surveillance aircraft have been based at the U.A.E.'s al-Dhafra air base, along with KC-10 aerial refueling planes. Al-Dhafra is said to have played a key role in both the Iraq and Afghanistan air wars. 2. U.S. sa
<0> I have a theory that psychologically due to ostacization in the past a lot of gays want to be normalized, i.e., take over or join hetero***ual stereotypes or practices to fit in.
<0> One should not be ashamed of being gay.
<16> i could care less what gay people call it, so long as they 1: keep me out of it and 2: keep it as far away from me as possible.
<0> One should not need to want to be a hetero***ual.
<6> I do know gay couples with children. I see where the legal rights conferred by marriage would be of great benefit to their families. Not sure if it is fair to exclude some US citizens from rights that others enjoy, simply because of a bias against same-*** unions.
<16> i have no problem with gay people, as long as they aren't gay *at* me.
<0> One should not want to follow the abrahamic religions which consider homo***uality and abomination and yet they continue to believe in such a religion which doessnt believe in them.
<0> Why not become a Buddhist or an atheist.
<0> Though Buddhism considers homo***uality a lower incarnation.
<0> same with hindusim
<0> But they dont judge you negatively
<14> depends on the buddhist sect
<14> some view all ***uality as being the same
<17> gfgffgtghf
<0> But i dont need any religion at all. So I am looking at it through that Prizm.
<13> prism
<14> Geo Prizm?
<6> abrahamic religion also ***cribes a widow to her husband's brother, and does allow for multiple wives. Seems funny how some so pick-and-choose from the old testament for creating 21st century norms.
<0> obviously people who believer in god and the abrahamic religions will see it differently and try to bend the religion to fit them rather than acknowlege that the religions are homophobic.
<0> Geo Prizm was probably one the best cars I ever had for the money.
<14> yeah they were good... they were a Toyota Camry but for less money
<6> do they still make Geo Prizms?
<0> Blue Jeans abrahamic people still practice polygamy, but most muslims dont.
<14> BlueJeans no
<16> everyone does that, though. bending religions to their own definitions, i mean. gays or otherwise.
<14> Geo doesn't exist anymore at all
<0> These are civil laws which deny them
<0> They still happen
<0> Americans practice not polygamy but serial monogamy
<14> Geo never made any cars of thier own anyway, they simply rebadged Japanese cars, and put GM electronics in them
<0> General Sherman
<0> I can't steal his quote
<16> that's why you've got everything from the double standards christian (i've seen it) to the extremist muslim. it's all dependant on interpretation.
<13> as far as i know, there is nothing inherently wrong with polygamy in principle.
<6> I guess we will always struggle, as a society, over what is spiritual (ie, from God), and what is a social construction (ie, the traditions of man).
<5> the reason religions don't like homo***uality is because homo***uals dont reproduce and therefore dont have kids to donate to the collection plate
<0> I dont have a problem with polygamy if they are 18 and older and they havent been subjected to some cult brain washing.
<12> wiretapp there are many reasons greater than just money
<0> But they dont get Aid from the US welfare
<0> that has to be conditional
<1> Infanticide "Blood Money" from NARAL, NEA, & Planned Parenthood infused into HillPac and distributed among the unsuspecting! That is the political abomination being perpetrated by Hillpac distributing Infanticide "Blood Money" to fellow politicians--a malignancy of character and morals.
<6> hehe, good choice: better to install GM (Delco) electronics that *shudder* Lucas Prince-of-Darkness electronics. :)
<0> there own community like mormons can take care of thier welfare needs.
<0> I take it back I dont want polygamy here because It will result in more welfare its unavoidable.
<0> Though I know a man here around the corner who has more than one wife.
<0> hes from Yemen
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