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<0> so it is killing but youve found a way to rationalize it
<1> so where does the right of an orderly society trump men's rights?
<1> yelling fire in a theatre is a coed law.
<2> so in this case, due to the biological facts that DarthBurg pointed out, the right to life loses to an individual's right to control their person.
<3> Railroaded Onto Death Row? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184992,00.html - interesting article should unite gun control / anti death penalty activists
<1> also a really ****ty example.
<2> as for DarthBurg's warblings for the poor condition of men, there is no right to father (or mother) a child.
<0> lyda what is the guidepost that you use to determine when ones desires are permissible when they involve taking human life
<1> according to the biology books, thats simply not true.
<0> just so were clear here
<1> oh yeah
<1> we do not use the real world.
<1> we live in a fantasy land.
<2> there is a responsibility to care for a child you've created.
<4> apparently not
<1> no baby with out the twofer tango, test tubers aside.
<2> DarthBurg: "according to the biology books, thats simply not true." what do you mean by "thats"?
<4> you can just kill the fetus, so actually there is no resposibility
<1> there is no right to father (or mother) a child.
<2> DarthBurg: that's not a right. you don't have the right to create a child. you have the ability to, but not the right to.
<1> lyda, perhaps, but thankfuly, since we wash our hands of the men's rights anyway, and create some mythical ones for the woman
<1> Do keep on arguin that reproduction is a minor fact of life.
<2> DarthBurg: you don't think you have a right to control over your person? kidnapping is legal? i can tatoo mickey mouse on your elbow and face nothing worse that disney's copyright lawyers?
<1> lyda, thats not even relotely the same thing.
<1> nice try
<1> remotely.
<5> or remotely
<5> ;)
<1> ty
<1> I have control of my person, right up until i get a woman pregnant, then my rights go out the window.
<2> DarthBurg: how so?
<0> there are about 1.3 million abortions a year in the US - it's used for birth control
<1> lyda, father's do not get a chance to weigh in on abortion of their children, remember, its the woman's right to choose.
<2> b1ff: you have statistics saying that amajority of those abortions are for "birth control."
<6> 1.3 million less jobless
<1> The Father is just a sperm donor. he has no rights to his child.
<7> lyda, you don't have the right to procreate?
<2> TheTailor: no.
<4> abortion limits the reproduction of leftwingers
<7> lyda, congrats, you just got the gold medal in stupidity.
<2> TheTailor: there is no constitutional right to ***.
<3> Doesn't matter we can get converts
<4> abortion limits the reproduction of leftwingers
<6> true, I'm in favor of abortion. makes for 1.3 million less democrats
<1> the constitution does not have "Seperation of church" and state in it either.
<4> they breed like flies, luckily they kill their babies
<3> No wonder conservatives are against education, makes more liberals!
<1> hahaha
<4> if wiretapp had a decent Liberal Pedigree, he'd have been aborted
<1> Education is the antithesis of Donkey idealogy
<0> wiretapp since when are liberals educated
<0> sheesh
<1> kids are suing california for having to strict of an exit exam, can't seem to p*** tenth grade reading
<7> lyda, it is an unalienable right to procreate.
<2> TheTailor: people have the ability to procreate. but it isn't a right. if a woman hits menopause and hasn't had a child, she can't sue her partner for failing to impregnate her.
<7> lyda, the constitution hasn't anything to do with it.
<1> When a donkey can't meet the requirements, they lower the requirements
<3> If conservatives beleived in birth control maybe their wouldn't be so many accidents
<0> dont confuse catholics with "conservatives"
<1> Conservative use birth control.
<0> most catholics vote dem anyway
<4> we need accidents to reduce the # of leftwingers
<0> look at the main catholic parts of the country, the northeast and california ... all lib
<3> Darwinism will weed out the right-wingers since they don't believe in it
<2> US-Male: so would america be a better place if all liberals left?
<0> wiretapp thats idiotic
<1> yes
<4> natural selection will eliminate the " I like abortion gene"
<4> not a problem
<4> lyda: sure.
<0> im a right wing gun nut and im down with darwin
<1> america would be a better place if all the liberals left. we might actually get a movie about real cowboys, not mythical gay ones
<0> yes US-Male thats the "roe effect"
<0> DarthBurg i bt that was supposed to be in alberta?
<0> i could see gay cowboys being in alberta
<3> there is no shortage on shoot-em-up flicks coming out of Hollywood
<2> wow. eliminationist politcs. how 1930's.
<4> I always thought cowboys were kinda gay
<1> b1ff ya got a point.
<1> wiretapp, name 2
<6> That's why they have one in the Village People
<0> lyda i didnt see you call wiretapp on the same thing
<3> They've did a study where they exposed a bunch of men to gay porn and the men that said they disliked homo***uals were far more likely to be aroused by the gay porn than the men who said they didn't care about homo***uals
<1> lol
<2> DarthBurg: i'm sure there are/were gay cowboys. just as i'm sure there are straight interior designers.
<1> complete nonsense.
<4> wiretapp: duh. That's because they were secretly gay
<1> lyda, so? still no movies worth watching. Liberals are largely useless these days
<3> us-male thats the theory
<1> all they do is bitch
<8> wiretapp, I've heard about that study
<9> whats with this report: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Friday Iraq faces a "moment of choosing" in the aftermath of the bombing of a major Shi'ite Muslim shrine and urged Iraqis to stay on the path of democracy
<8> sorta makes sense with what a stereotypical homophobe is supposed to be.
<9> i thought iraqis had their moment of choosing December 15th 2005?
<2> b1ff: i didn't see me call anyone in particular on it at all.
<1> td- thats the thing with choices, you have to stick to them
<7> td-, it's not a vote, dufus.
<0> lyda dont decontextualize
<0> freaking leftist deconstructionists
<7> td-, choices of violence or not.
<2> DarthBurg: no good movies? i take it you missed underworld evolution?
<1> Still Desperately trying to Make Dubya out to be a fool. even tho the guy is not running again
<1> lyda, actually I kinda flagged that one for a possible. but no I have not seen it.
<1> the first underworld had great sets
<2> DarthBurg: kate beckinsale, latex, leather plus vampires and werewolves... how could it go wrong?
<7> moderatum has the day off
<1> lyda, like i said, its a possible :D
<1> Doom was fun.
<1> the rock died.
<1> its all good
<10> he dies in doom?
<10> hrmz
<1> ayup.
<10> haven't seen him yet
<10> just think his "its game time" quote is cheesy :/
<1> oh did I give it away?
<10> no
<1> "We got a game"
<2> i have an open p*** to a cinema in city centre. all the movies i want for 17 yoyos a month. since i'm just renting a bedsit at the moment it works better than a tv+cable.
<1> ya got rooked.
<9> my favourite character in this whole iraq situation has been the u.s amb***ador there
<1> they should pay us to watch this ****
<7> lyda, what city?
<9> he seems to think the u.s taxpayers have a say in who gets elected by the iraqi people
<9> "The United States is investing billions of dollars into these forces, military and police forces of Iraq. American taxpayers expect their money to be spent properly. We are not going to invest the resources of the American people into forces run by people who are sectarian."
<2> i saw a movie called hidden last week. it's french. the french don't have rules about showing cruelty to animals.
<2> TheTailor: dublin.
<9> the problem is however, that the iraqis voted for sectarian leaders on dec 15th.. so what are you going to do?
<7> td-, well no, they haven't put together a government yet. What he is saying that you obviously miss it that the US taxpayer wont support terrorists in office.
<0> New Special Forces The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces. These Good ole boys will be dropped off into Iraq and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus. 5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the dea
<0> We expect the problem in to be over by late Friday......if not sooner
<2> b1ff: btw, are you really connected here with a vic20? and when did you get lowercase chars?
<9> What he is saying is that he wants religious neutrals in power isnt it?
<9> let me look up exactly what sectarian means
<6> just make religon illegal in Iraq, would solve a lot of problems
<9> seems there is multiple definitions
<2> td-: sect-arian. differentiating by various sects.
<6> We can make documentaries and air them on Iraqi TV, Why Gods are not Real" Santa, the Easter Bunny and God...what do they have in common
<9> Adhering or confined to the dogmatic limits of a sect or denomination; partisan.
<11> the fool has said in his heart there is no God
<2> td-: in the case of sectarian violence, it usually means violence between (and enabled by) various religious sects.
<2> wotgorila: it would solve a lot of problems in america too.
<9> yes, the shiites and the sunnis
<9> the 2 main sects
<2> td-: living in ireland, you kind of learn the word...
<0> ranchise owners told to start selling carrots, bananas7-Eleven has seen the future, and it's no longer six-packs, snuff and Slim Jims. It's sliced carrots. Also bananas, lots of bananas. Put a rack of bananas by the cash register, came the word from 7-Eleven headquarters, and watch business get hotter than a bag of Flamin' Hot Cheetos.
<6> I used to believe in Santa claus, God and honest politicians when I was little
<0> is that a banana on your counter or are you happy to see me
<11> wotgorila: touching
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