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<0> half the people here are redheads
<1> Disco true but entitlements go basically to the same place.. To pay for old people who qualify for social security
<2> JanetB: silly, silly, silly.
<3> JanetB: don't make me burn you at the stake for such blasphemy and heresy! :P
<2> red hair
<2> is just plain cool
<1> You dont become elgible till 67 I think and then its not means tested
<4> and my husband just laughed, he said it is still red hon
<5> JanetB: do a sinead oconnor and save the dying fees
<4> jhicks. awww no
<1> Maybe its 65 but more at 67. I dont know the exact setup of the scam
<5> DO IT
<1> I do not its a scam
<4> thanks, but no thanks
<6> Was STINGRAY on tonight?
<7> Of course if you did live in a house , you have no need for a fire dept
<5> skeerdy kat
<7> Of course if you did Not live in a house , you have no need for a fire dept
<8> freetrade: And you'd also know that there are two parts to FICA. One is Social Security and one is Medicare. There is a reason why they are called separate things, and they have separate percentages. It's because they are separate things.
<2> FreeTrade: I think you have the option to start collecting SS as early as 59, but the annuity is A LOT less than if you wait until you're 67.
<8> Social Security doesn't may for medical expenses is perhaps the most obvious difference...
<5> JanetB: you could be all GI JANE and get through shopping lines faster
<8> pay
<0> ok, so....
<1> I do know private investments would of protected everyone up to today and it would be solvent and noone would be without social security who worked during their life, and there wouldnt be alooming debt which could swallow 50% of GDP
<4> hahahah jhicks
<0> "Sasha Cohen fell twice during the free skate Thursday night but finished with the silver medal when Russia's Irina Slutskaya, the final skater of the night, tumbled on her third-to-last jump"
<2> ajofi: and Medicare doesn't write you a monthly check either.
<0> the chicks REAL name is Irina Slutskaya
<0> how about that
<9> They have seperate trust funds
<3> Irina Slut
<3> heh
<10> lol .. I have red hair .. my mother had it. I just have never given it much thought except for a period when I was in HS and I wanted to go blonde.
<1> imagine 5 trillion going to social security when 1 guy is paying for 3 people on social security
<9> but it doesn't mean much, the gov will loot one trust fund to pay for a different program if they feel like it
<10> just about every woman wants to go blonde at some point in her life :)
<1> There will be reductions
<8> None of the privatization plans have yet resolved the insolvency problems with Social Security. Hence privatization alone is not a solution to the real problem.
<10> but there is no way a natural redhead can ever go blonde.
<3> CometBaby: I'd burn your hair like a bad Michael Jackson incident! :P
<1> there will be an extension of time before you can draw, there will be higher taxes,
<3> heheheh
<4> CometBaby... oh don't tell me that!!
<1> The people younger than I will get screwed really hard.
<10> I was told that putting bleach into red hair turns it orange. You can never get the red pigment out.
<2> Bokavitch: they already loot it. That money all goes into the general fund. The "trust fund" is nothing more than an accounting mechanism to track the inlays and outlays for SS. There's no actual money sitting in it.
<3> CometBaby: and there's a good reason for that...DON'T DYE YOUR ****ING HAIR! :P
<9> Disco: i know that's what i'm saying
<3> or bleach it, or whatever ;)
<10> lol
<8> i have a friend who's a redhead and she's blond.
<7> CometBaby -- Try Sears Exterior
<11> A redhead CAN go blonde.
<10> I have never put dye into my hair.
<11> They call it, "A Wig"
<12> I didn;t know women wanted to bleach their hair in the 1850's.
<10> astro .. with a wig?
<10> lol
<1> Disco is correct the entire Social security program is IOUs and all current accounts are paid by current inlays.
<4> hahahah Astrodog
<10> actually they say its true .. red pigment in the hair doesn't come out
<11> Free: The SS program is paid by federal bonds.
<2> FreeTrade: you have no idea how much I resent the prospect of being taxed to holy hell in order to fund the retirement of the wealthiest group of human beings who have ever walked the Earth.
<1> So today where you have what ? 10 people paying for 1 guy ? Its being paid immediately to the older people.
<0> blondes are OK but they usually don't catch my interest as much
<1> the Social Security Fund doesnt exist, Literally
<13> Yankee27: is that your wife? the jpg?
<4> well mine did not come out, thats for sure
<11> Free: It exists.
<12> jpg?
<11> It consists of Federal Bonds.
<2> FreeTrade: no, today the ratio is already down to 3 to 1
<1> Disco both ends are going to get ****ed and people will right a new history of FDR and it wont be pretty
<12> if I were married....i'd be pleading and begging for ***.
<13> Yankee27: you posted a lady
<4> I tried brown and in a week it is red again
<1> right = write
<12> yeah, a porn star....
<8> Social Security tax is also capped at $94,200. But you still pay for medicare. It's not capped. (Because guess what, it's a different program.)
<9> It's not FDR's fault if future generations screwed it up, it worked fine well after he died
<1> Jesus already 3:1 ?
<1> My god
<4> so I thought I would try blonde, guess that will not work either .. sigh
<7> FreeTrade -- SS can pay full benefits for about another 40 years, and then 75% of benefits if nothing is done
<13> we do have a porn star that frequents the channel
<11> Janet: You could go to dark brown, most likely.
<9> Yeah the cap on SS is bull****, if they just lifted that it would go a long way in resolving solvency
<12> misslavey?
<1> I was told 2 years ago or maybe a little less than in 10 years which means about 8 years now or maybe a little more there will be 2 retirees per new hires do to the baby boom.
<4> Astrodog... it just washes out in a week
<1> The good news is there is a new conservative baby boom.
<13> heh Yankee27
<14> ?
<15> hey
<11> Free: Yeah. This system can cover that, FT.
<1> Seriously
<0> social security was not intended to be a retirement plan -- it's mis-used
<1> There is a new conservative baby boom.
<11> Janet: So?
<11> :P
<4> heh
<11> Just redye it.
<0> it was orginally supposed to be like a welfare program for old people
<12> are you the porn star randym is talking about?
<1> Liberals arent having kids or are just having 1 or 2 at the most
<14> i dunno
<1> conservatives are having 2-5 or more
<2> FreeTrade: well between you and me, I hope the older end gets most of the ****ing, because they've been told for decades that this is a problem and did nothing about it. And now they fight every attempt to amend it.
<7> US-Male -- It was but people were not expected to live this long
<4> you can not re dye your hair ever week! you would ruin it
<13> Conservatives produce liberals
<4> every
<11> Janet: That would depend on the dye/
<11> Hell
<9> I'm willnig to bet that immigration will offset any advantages that conservatives have from reproduction
<11> Go buy some DIT die.
<11> :P
<15> *TESTING*
<11> *dye
<4> well I am going to bed, with my STILL red hair :(
<4> night all
<1> Disco, I understand you concern, I really do. People who were so stupid in a way deserve it except for the 30% or so of people who thought Like I did that it should of been privatized 3 decades ago.
<12> it's 9pm!
<8> Social Security is less of a problem financially for this country than getting involved in specious wars every couple of years.
<4> it is 11 here
<0> JanetB: nite red
<12> where are you?
<4> hahah night US-Male
<7> Being poor ****s. I hope everyone never has to depend on SS
<4> Az
<0> heh
<1> I was actively for privatization about 30 years ago.
<11> Free: Its not a matter of privatize, vs not.
<1> before then I was against social security period.
<12> AZ is not pacific time?
<11> Its too late to privatize it anyway.
<4> nope
<4> mt
<12> jesus
<0> I like that dark red hair
<1> Astro is because only privatized social security can always remain solvent.
<11> And it wouldn't work as a private program.
<11> How would it remain solvant?
<1> Astro, Your nuts
<7> If you have to depend on a private pension plan , you caould be worse off
<12> USM likes dark red pubes on his BF Evan.
<1> It works damn well in Sweden and Chile
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