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<0> I don't think Guiliani would take a backseat
<1> mccain and giuliani will both do badly in the gop primaries
<2> Teddy Roosevelt for instance
<2> what a tard
<2> er, turd
<1> giuliani HATES hillary
<3> what a fagqot!
<4> TR was a decent president
<2> NO WAY
<5> he was a rough rider
<4> one of the best we had
<2> that's all BS
<3> isnt that a condom brand?
<4> FDR was one I revile
<6> politicians friendship and enemity cant be trusted.
<1> giuliani was ok as mayor of ny but hed be a lousy president
<0> In relative terms i think TR was good
<2> I hate em all
<7> hillary has not won the support of the far left in her party .. in fact they are openly opposing her now
<0> RELATIVE
<0> to all of our ****ty presidents
<6> guilinai has plenty of mafia type dirt on him
<2> Hillary is a national socialist type
<3> mafia?
<4> best presidents we ever had........Washington, Jefferson, TR, RR
<3> hah
<3> he was a prosecutor!
<8> CometBaby, that'd be because Hillary decides to be centrist in all the wrong places.
<8> Plus I dislike hugely authoritarian liberals
<4> worst: Grant Harding Clinton Hackson Lincoln McKinley FDR
<8> which is what she is.
<7> PO .. and everyone knows she is lying
<2> CryHavoc: one for three isn't bad
<4> Ike was another good pres
<9> Is it too much to ask an opposition candidate to actually *oppose* the president on his biggest and most unpopular undertaking (the war in Iraq)?
<2> GW was a friggin land speculator
<1> hoover
<2> CryHavoc: nobody listened to his warning though
<1> hoover was ok
<4> Jefferson supported States rights
<7> jhicks and the clintons were S&L liquidators
<4> Hoover was without a cloover
<6> occ: recall the police chief scandal/ nominee for chief of DHS .. his buddy?
<7> and land speculators
<0> Andrew Jackson was the **** if you set aside the m***acre of the natives
<2> CometBaby: Neil Bush fer prezudent!
<7> do you remember whitewater?
<10> lol, did I just see Hillary described as a centrist? :-)
<1> yeah jackson was ok
<7> Whitewater Land Development
<2> boy, they keep a lid on Neil fer sure
<4> the people were too busy scrabbling at the trough to back the banks solvency...
<9> On the war she is.
<1> cant blame jackson for killin the injuns in war
<7> amazing how fast leftists forget :)
<2> can you say Silverado?
<4> jhicks Neil Who? ;)
<2> haha
<7> [10:51] <+jhicks> GW was a friggin land speculator .... and he forgot all about clintons :)
<4> Neil "I was busted in the S& L Scandal" Bush
<2> CometBaby: Whitewater was the ****
<5> darn i deleted the 1976 daytona 500
<2> CometBaby: I was referring to George Washington
<7> ahhh .. okay :)
<6> heard of the new book - Impostor by Bruce Bartlett ?
<0> McCain was tied up in S&L too
<2> And it's true
<2> He wasn't no surveyor!
<4> George Washiongton was a land owner...back then they were the only ones who could vote
<2> he encouraged the displacement of Natives for expansion
<11> jhicks: It was at least a nice recovery.
<6> Why are so many conservatives turning against Bush lately?
<2> CM0ss^: It was in context
<4> jhicks...that would have been inevitable...
<12> slax: Because Bush turned homo.
<4> US and England were much alike until the 1820s
<5> bush=getLaid
<2> CryHavoc: yeah, barbaric
<6> praxis9: is that the effect of "bare back mountain?"
<5> only dorx discarded Bush
<0> hahaha
<12> salx: Yes, it is.
<4> their actions could be called cruel...
<4> but the process has no right or wrong ***ociated with it
<2> Espectro kneels toward the white house and wanks six times daily
<9> salx: because conservatives value fiscal responsibility, government staying out of private lives, checks on governmental power
<4> it was a neutral entity
<3> and social bull****!
<13> FedUp-- They did
<3> conservatives would be fine if they didnt h***le people socially
<0> Fiscal responsibility??
<3> they dont believe in individual liberties
<0> Look at the defecit
<0> and the patriot act
<2> occ: true conservatives would
<3> "personal responsibility" is a euphemism for "social restrictions"
<2> occ: but we don't have any
<0> ahh wait nm salx
<0> i read that wrong
<12> There are no social restrictions left.
<0> you used "conservatives" not "Republicans"
<0> i mean, FedUp, not salx
<2> occ: liberals believe in unfettered state authority to intrude into personal affairs
<0> damn my mind is off today
<12> Well, aside from being able to marry an ant. But that's coming.
<2> occ: like the republicans
<11> nytol
<2> mmm nytol shots
<9> salx asked why "conservatives" were turning against Bush
<3> i cant smoke pot legally
<4> jhicks and the radical conservatives believe in laissez faire
<0> yeah you're right
<3> thats a social restriction with no reasonable basis
<5> what would lefties have to say about a completely contribulatory system of agglomeration?
<4> brb
<2> Espector: you're a lefty
<9> My point is: any "conservative" who is sincere in what conservatism means has a lot to be unhappy about.
<2> Espectro: you're so left i bet you wear pink panties
<0> FedUp: you're right in defining conservatives, i hate how people seem to think the republican party of today is "conservative"
<14> Oh lovely, now taxpayer dollars are going to go to paying for the reconstruction of the Askariya shrine that was destroyed earlier this week.
<3> so?
<3> who cares!
<3> its pragmatic to do so
<14> If it were tried domestically it would be unconstitutional.
<3> and worth far more than the cost in PR value
<3> sheesh
<3> the US rebuilding the mosque is a great idea :P
<2> it's pragmatic not to bomb places that don't matter
<6> I am a conservative and vote libertarian, not republican.
<5> jhicks: likely you want more advisors for a constibulatory scheme
<15> who cares what anybody who isn't american thinks? they are just in debt to us for saving the world from last world war
<10> ajofi, don't you think it will build better relations to help rebuild it?
<2> Espectro: likely you'd blow george given the chance
<3> 1984 was a ****ty book
<0> libertarians are real conservatives, not republicans
<3> so **** off
<0> i don't think the Dems are real liberals
<5> jhicks: i know it's herd
<14> tailor: no
<10> ajofi, why not? Don't you feel for these people?
<15> americans have laid down the fight for new century, it's the goddamn terrorists now. if you aren't with bush, we will hunt you down
<5> but jhicks so what's your point?
<5> if you have one besides gay
<0> i'm shocked but i am actually going to agree with Tailor on this one, we should do what we can to rebuild it
<10> l984, oh calm yourself
<9> Bokavitch: depends on who you mean by "Democrats" but if we're ***uming that Hillary is the heir apparent of the party, then you're right.
<0> FedUp: well there is variation obviously, i just mean the party in general, there are a few exceptions
<9> Bokavitch: part has betrayed its ideals as much as the Repubs have, no doubt.
<0> FedUp: Both are generally corporate puppets
<14> These people haven't gotten this pissed off in 3 years and finally they have a frigging cow when a mosque is destroyed by insurgents. And instead of getting a clue that insurgents are the enemy, the shiites go on revenge killing rampages killing sunnis which is exactly what the insurgents were trying to do in the first place.
<10> ajofi, well the imams will handle that.
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