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<0> You will take them away when you fear some.
<1> And UNICEF isn't a US organisation, either.
<2> yes
<3> the moment you hurt me, you lose your rights
<3> its that simple
<4> AAAman : The Founding Fathers are compared to crazy who could create derivatives with words. And sound like psychotic people but are saner than you or I.
<0> That is a law.
<5> except democrats can not criticise Bush's admin with out criticising themselves. Democrats are going to bitch at Bush for Spending? Big Government? New Entitlements? hahahah no
<0> But people in their homes aren't hurting you.
<3> i don't see how that is "conservative"
<0> They haven't violated your rights.
<2> he was there in his position as a UNICEF ambasador and he spoke as an American.
<0> You are willing to take peoples right away without facts.
<1> he "spoke as an american" ?
<2> it smacks of treason
<3> sintient, ok, so a guy robs me, runs how, and he is perfectly innocent?
<1> how does an american do anything other than "speak as an american" tell me?
<3> hahahahahahaha
<0> I didn't say that.
<6> e-Hernick: you're either with them, or against them. world is black and white.
<7> I`ll sell my vote for $50 if anyone needs a Vote
<3> how = home
<0> WHo robbed and ran anyone over?
<2> e-Hernick you are more concerned with finding a venue of denyability than you are in decrying what he did.
<0> We were talking about people in their homes.
<2> that is exactly the attitude I am talking about
<0> If they had robbed and maimed they would be on trial.
<3> sintient, i said, a guy robs me, runs home, i break into his house
<3> take his *** prisoner and offer him up for arrest
<3> how is that illegal?
<2> I ran into this same attitude when CNN put the X over Cheney's face during his speech.
<0> You can make up all the scenarios you want.
<2> Not one single democrat was willing to decry it
<1> CometBaby: I completely disagree with what this belafonte guy said, and when I saw the clip, I had an urge to slap him in the face with a machette, so much he disgusted me. However, I cannot comprehend how anybody would want to shut him up.
<0> What if while breaking down his door you slam through and step on his wives child.
<3> haha sintient, so you are saying i shouldn't have a right to protect myself beyond my own house right?
<8> After nearly 7 years in prison for a crime he did not commit, Jeffrey Scott Hornoff walked out of prison a free man. With the clothes on his back, a small plastic bag of personal belongings and $500, he was ready to rebuild his life. Or was he?
<0> I don't know.
<2> instead they were in here saying things like "Did they do it *on purpose*?" .. and "Prove it"
<0> I would call the cops.
<8> $500? weak
<3> **** that
<0> SO you chase him, he pulls a gun
<3> i am busting the ****er, then calling the cops=)
<0> You pull a gun now there is a shooting war in residential neighborhood
<8> Only 16 states provide for the payment of reparations to innocent people convicted of crimes they did not commit and subsequently exonerated. Only New York and West Virginia have no limit. California caps reparations at $10,000, and the federal government is stingiest of all, granting a maximum of $5,000. The other 36 states provide no compensation at all.
<3> thats the way it SHOULD be anyway
<2> then when the people answering the phones at CNN were admitting it was intentional .. the attitude was "Is that true?" "prove they said it".
<9> e-hernick: can you explain then why Hillary clinton supports Harry ?
<2> oh you have a tape recording?
<7> Liberals are giving me $500 to vote for them should I take it?
<0> Stray bullets kill 10 people is that worth you wallet?
<2> "Trash the person who made the tape" ..
<3> sintient yes, put the person down, along with all his "buddies"
<1> Lupine: uh.. hillary clinton supports harry belafonte's "greatest tyrant, greatest terrorist" statement?
<0> Who are just bystanders.
<0> What he didn't run home.
<7> Liberals are giving me $500 to vote for them should I take it?
<10> Lupine -- Can you explain would you make this statement which is not true
<11> e-Hernick: She does?
<3> you sleep with the terrorists, you eat with the terrorists you are a terrorist
<9> e-hernick: Yep.
<0> Whhat he ran to a random house and you kill all the people their thinking they are his gang.
<1> Lupine: that's crazy. Maybe she supports his right to free speech, but I doubt she supports his statements. But if you make that extraordinary claim, please provide some sort of evidence.
<3> sintient as long as they don't pull a gun and get on the floor they won't get shot
<9> e-hernick: nope, she supports his statements
<0> What if a terrorist just runs into your house can the cops chasing him kill you and him because you are now with a terrorist.
<1> Lupine: or do you simply claim to know her heart?
<3> i'm sick of cops letting stupid ***es go
<0> You shoot a gun if richochets.
<12> yayo-wifi, see your messages.
<10> Lupine --Fiction
<9> e-hernick: oh, that's easy. Hillary has not condemned his statements, ergo, by their logic concerning pat robinson, she supports it fully
<1> Lupine: I think you're pulling this out of your ***.
<3> sintient cops guns don't ricochet?
<3> hahahha
<7> TheTailor: dont PM me
<3> since when do cops have any more rights than a person?
<13> yayo-wifi, you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor )
<3> thats interesting to me
<0> They are trained in the situation, they take precauctions they have less than lethal options.
<9> AAAman: Nope, application of leftoid logic: if the whitehouse does not speak out against pat robinson, it means the WH supports pat robinson. Its as good for the goose, as it is for the gander
<10> Lupine -- You imagination
<4> Hillary Clinton is being owned by Howard Dean.
<0> They can use overwhelming force wich lessens the risk.
<9> AAA: nope, hillary did not speak out against it, ergo, she is for him.
<10> Lupine -- Try to change the topic
<0> But still I see your point.
<9> I will not allow the leftoids to be hypocrits
<1> Lupine: oh yeah, that's the most logical argument ever. You understand that by your logic, hillary is also in league with the devil?
<0> Doens't mean I agree or that you convinced me to do the same.
<3> in fact sintient, you could say that you are part of the problem of why the laws do not respect the fundemental rights of natural law that are given to ALL mankind
<11> lots of people didn't speak out against it, but that doesn't necessarily mean squat
<0> Natural law given by who?
<0> Because you can overpower someone doesn't mean natural it is your right?
<6> I saw the CNN explanation of the X. It was a computer glitch.
<9> e-hernick: erronious logic. the devil hasnt' publically spoken out
<3> how am i any different than a cop, i should have as much right to go and bust the freakin herion/meth dealer next door as the cops do, finally place his stupid *** under arrest
<0> I mean the laws of physics make dictate that you have the power to rape someoene doesn't make it right.
<1> Lupine: okay, then what about pol pot.. I think hillary supports pol pot
<9> renea: well, I saw that "explanation" as well, it was a mockery and a shame. Now, I dont think they did it intentionally, but it sure as hell didnt' happen as tey "claimed it"
<0> We have due process in this country.
<3> I know he deals, i have seen them firing up, i should have the right to make a citizens arrest
<6> e-Herny: no, wrong. hillary supports the clone of mao.
<9> e-hernick: well, post what pol pot has said in the last few years...
<3> its still due process
<3> heh
<0> I think you do.
<0> But you don't have the right to kill them.
<3> if he fires on me yes i do
<0> And you might be putting yourself in danger.
<3> i have the right to protect myself
<0> Then you do but then he is a attempted murderer not just a drug user.
<3> there is some disconnect here with liberals
<0> There is some insanity here by you.
<3> they don't think that i have the right to A. carry a fire arm, and B. protect myself with it
<0> Just go through the right channels protect yourself.
<3> they think that only COPS should be able to carry guns i geuss
<0> You have both those rights.
<1> Lupine: "Since he is of no use anymore, there is no gain if he lives and no loss if he dies."
<0> But you could cause more problems if you aren't careful, that I don't think you get.
<3> sintient... "could've's would'ves"
<3> if the cops won't do ****, I have a right to protect me myself and I
<0> Like that maybe you could protect yourself.
<0> that is your couldve
<0> You always have the right to protect yourself.
<0> But can you just attack people who aren't activly threatening you? no.
<1> sintient: not from the government.. it can spy on you and you can't do a damn thing about it
<3> yes, and their stupid crackhead selves are infrining on my rights as a law abiding citizen driving over my lawn, etc etc etc....
<1> you have the right to defend yourself, as long as the government hasn't targetted you
<0> If you know what they do you can call the cops and be a witness for the prosecution.
<3> i still have the right to protect myself by serving a citizens arrest
<3> sintient, i have called the cops, several times....
<3> they don't DO **** as i have said repeatedly
<1> The problem with citizen's arrests is that their are laws against full automatic weapons, so it's a little harder to arrest your enemies.
<9> lol, in england, you have no right to self defense. if your house is robbed, and he attacks you.. and you fight back and win.. YOU often will be in the paddy wagon first!
<1> s/their/there
<9> e-her: not in florida, or many other states.. full auto just requires a $200 NFA stamp tax
<0> The loser goes to the hospital?
<3> Lupine, exactly, that **** aint going to happen here and nor should it
<1> dammit, I'm making awful typos today
<3> sintient, the loser is a criminal, and deserves whatever instant justice he obtains
<9> sin: i'm not kidding, home owners have been arrested/tried/convicted for defending themsselves in england
<1> Lupine: what about booby traps?
<9> booby traps are almost alwasy verboten
<1> Can I mine my front lawn and install automated defense turrets
<9> lethal ones i mean
<3> hell I cheer when i see car jackers and ****
<1> to protect against kids
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