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<0> rond: the government is not responsible for what private insurer's do.
<1> so you're a socialist then, rond?
<1> a libertarian? you think poor people should lay down and die?
<0> rond: do you want the government to regulate premiums?
<0> rond: ideally, you should go with a insurer who refuses to insurer tobacco users.
<2> No I want my premiums lowered
<3> antifed: of course, the govnt is responsible when they mandate to employees they can not charge seperate premiums for smokers
<2> antifed show me one
<0> rond: therefore giving you the lower premiums, free markets work fine on their own.
<0> rond: there are none because of government regulatioN!
<0> rond: see the answer is not government, it is LESS government.
<3> anti: sorry, employer health insurance is NOT freemarket, they are required to give all employees coverage, and at the same rate
<3> and I agree, the solution is to NOT have govn't mandated health insurance from employers
<0> lupine: due to regulation, remove the regulation.
<4> wow
<0> i love free markets.
<4> who woulda guessed, Rumsfield Cheney and Bush RealDolls
<4> amazing
<0> ew..
<4> man, tha's nahhasty
<0> that's just.. disturbing..
<4> imagine a car full of naked - ha
<3> what?
<4> rumzy in the front seat with an erection, **** and bush in the back, pick up a hitchhiker -'wanna ride' ?
<4> man, I bet they'd run
<4> I fear there will be some video.google.com stuff with these guys
<3> did you look at hillary again?
<0> in all seriousness tho, the doubelstandard on pot versus tobacky and booze is silly.
<4> is there a hillary realdoll ?
<4> dayahem
<4> wow - you could put dubya and hillary together
<0> we're humans, we like recreational drugs... whats the problem with that?
<4> antifed - talk to ollie north and noriega
<4> hmm
<4> noriega realdolls
<0> Detr0it: heh, if drugs were legal, they'd be safe, controlled, and likely domestically produced.
<0> also, imagine the drug dealers we'd put out of business.
<5> Safe for who?
<0> no more DEA, no more drug war.. maybe we'd get some stability in South America after we put the drug cartels out of biz.
<5> or whom as the question should read?
<0> Boogy: safe for us, just look at Prohibition.
<3> BATF should return ot what they started as: a simle tax collector
<0> Chicago was a warzone.
<0> ultimately, the free market rules all.
<0> to fight it, is insane.
<0> people want drugs, people will pay for drugs.
<0> thats how it works.
<6> dead people don't use drugs.
<0> Jakyl: good point, we could put a bullet into the head of every drug user.
<0> good idea!
<0> that will show them.
<5> antifed - I will take my chances with the current situation. I don't want easy access to recreational drugs causing accidents all over the country
<6> say
<6> shy didn't I think if that?
<6> cool!
<0> Boogy: you mean like Beer does?
<7> boogy...there already is easy access
<0> Boogy: we have laws for when people take drugs and drive.
<3> I think the US authorities should lace all siezed drugs with arsenic, and then re-sell it.
<0> Boogy: why are new drugs any different then current ones?
<8> lupine: now that's just mean!
<5> antifed - They are not so widely and easily accessed
<3> suna: no, its just effective
<0> this notion that if we legalize pot, traffic accidents will go up, is silly.
<0> Boogy: eh.. sure they are.
<8> druggies are pieces of crap, but they don't deserve to be killed. They rarely do anything more severe than steal
<7> boogy...any one who chooses to use drugs can get them
<0> Suna: bah, I believe most drug users are middle to upper cl***.
<5> antifed - Why dont we do it this way, we get to beat the living crap out of YOU every time a druggie causes an accident, you would change your mind pretty quickly
<8> antifed: Well, there are accurate statistics for such things
<8> either it's true or it's not
<8> (i don't know)
<0> suna: it's easy to tell if the middle and upper cl*** use drugs.
<0> all you have to do is follow the supply.
<3> suna: stealing for a habit, IMHO is rather "severe"
<0> every year billions of dollars of drugs enter the US.
<8> lupine: me too, and people should go to prison for it.
<0> I doubt billions of dollars are lost to petty theft from "addicts who steal"
<8> shouldn't die though, shouldn't even be physically harmed
<0> ergo .. the money has to be coming from people with jobs.
<8> should just sit in a cell
<3> suna: so you would hold the innocent american public guilty for their incarciration?
<8> eh?
<7> boogy you are ***uming that drug use would go up
<5> FAW - It would
<3> No, I'll donate free .22lr rounds so the innocent taxpayers are not robbed a second time
<8> i'm confused lupine
<0> so people who don't already smoke or drink alcohol will use pot?
<0> thereby increasing the number of drug users.
<8> all i'm saying is people who steal should go to prison for stealing. The only time people should ever be killed imho is murder & rape (REAL RAPE, none of htis bull**** stat crap)
<0> since, smokers and beer drinks COUNT as drug users.
<7> if there were one central lopcation where drugs had to be purchased we could effectively target our drug message
<8> of course other molestation crimes etc whatever ya know what i mean
<5> antifed - You up for the deal?
<0> Boogy: huh?
<7> boogy...why would use go up?
<9> why rape?
<8> tsunade: because it ****s
<9> might as well kill the bitch
<8> i've just known a lot of rape victims is all, kinda sticks with you
<9> if you gonna rape her
<9> lol
<9> less chance of being caught then
<0> boogy: I drink Wine, I dont smoke cigs, if pot were legal, I'd light up.. but since I already use Wine (alcohol, a drug), the amount of added drug users would not go up in my case.
<5> FAW - Because ease of access creates ubiquity
<0> see how simple that is?
<3> Okay, on first conviction of rape, you use a hammer to smash their testicles to a pulp. second offense, death
<9> nah
<7> ease of acess already exists
<0> as I am already a drug user via alcohol.
<5> antifed - Gads
<8> that's one of the things about going to a rehab. Half the girls have been raped, the other half lie about being raped. I've heard every story you can imagine in the form of turth and in the form of a lie. Rapists ****.
<5> antifed - With THAT kind of reasoning you MUST be a user already
<9> *shrug*
<8> Now i don't buy the girls pity stories
<8> using their rapes as an excuse to ruin their own lives
<0> BoogyMan: yeah I'm a druggie, I drink Wine.
<9> you can accuse a guy of rape
<5> antifed - Your reasoning speaks to a much more serious addiction
<3> wine in moderation does not affect your behavior, pot does
<9> so you think a guy should defend his life
<0> Boogy: serious addiction, yes, you got me, I am in fact .. addicted to LIBERTY.
<9> just because of that?
<0> Boogy: Libertarianism is my drug :)
<8> driving while under the influence of weed or alcohol should be more illegal than it is
<8> much more illegal
<7> how does pot affect ones behavior lupine?
<10> anti: Uh.
<5> antifed - When your liberty can hurt me, you better bet you are not gonna get it
<8> and highspeed chases should be attempted murder in almost all situations
<0> Boogy: smoking pot, does not harm others.
<8> antifed: no, but drivign while you're stoned sure does;P
<8> well
<5> antifed - LOL, sure it doesn't
<8> puts others at risk anyway
<0> suna: so does driving drunk. we have laws for that don't we?
<8> antifed: sure do
<0> suna: operating a vehical while impaired is a crime.
<0> suna: hence, smoking pot is not harmful.
<8> I want them to be much more severe than they are
<8> **** this 3 days in county
<8> prison for a real dui
<0> I agree with Prison for DUI
<8> 3 days in county jail for like .09 when the limit is .08 or whatever ya know
<8> the bs duis a few days in county is fine
<0> it's dangerious and foolish.
<8> but a REAL dui
<8> when the ****er is drunk off his ***
<8> prison
<0> people seem to think that if drugs are legal we'll have more vehicular homicide,... this is because these people can not separate the drug from how it is used.
<0> if I drive drunk, I should go to jail.
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