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<0> notnix
<1> yawn
<2> im a bit offended by apple's new intel campaing .. this "We'd freed the intel chip" stuff..
<0> and who won that war...pocket pc
<2> linux freed the intel chip a decade ago..
<0> palm is practically dead
<3> rond: Most PPC software is also nix-based.
<4> anti: yea.. and I bet they are using just stock intel chipsets as well :-)
<0> except on Ebay
<3> Infact, you cannot find non-nix-based PPC hardware, outside of Windows CE.
<4> power PC != pocket PC
<3> Lup: The same holds true for most ARM stuff.
<5> does anyone use PGP
<5> whole disk encryption
<5> to hide stuff on their computer?
<3> UnLoOpY: I use things like that with some of my customers... why?
<5> i'm downloading desktop v9
<5> i wanted to know if i could use it to just encrypt everything on my computer
<5> and have it run just the way it does
<5> or does it only encrypt things you aren't working on
<3> Seek therapy for your kiddie porn addiction, and then don't bother.
<6> Xmen2 is cool
<7> paranoia will destroya
<4> pity Xmen2 wasn't rated R or NC17 with mystic
<8> a lot of companies are also paranoid about stolen lap tops with sensitive info on them
<9> is wireless b protocol restricted to WEP encryption ?
<10> i've never used PGP disk encrypt, but dm-crypt is pretty nice under linux
<10> loop-aes ****s
<11> mystique was naked through the whole movie
<6> can't wait til Xmen 3 comes out
<7> i'm good with naked pretty women.
<2> US-Male: no, but most wireless B only equipment is older, so old that it was before anything other then WEP existed.
<11> no, 802.11b can use WPA too
<9> so previous b maybe could not
<10> US-Male: it's not b, but rather the hardware itself
<0> I can see 5 other wireless networks from my house other than mine
<9> ah well
<3> rond: Crank up the wattage.
<9> I'm not letting any b protocols in since I don't use b
<2> 802.11b is a lower layer then the WEP runs in the 7 layer model.
<10> wep is fine for most people
<7> US-Male: quit bein cheap, ya bastard. buy 11g
<9> I have 11g+
<2> hehe.. wow, points to me. i used the 7 layer model in a conversation without laughing..
<9> on the router
<9> with mimo -- I need a card for the laptop though
<2> WEP is fine if you want to be 0wned :)
<8> I took a look at a demo of winternals erd last week. it can byp*** any adminstrative p***word and change it to whatever you wish. on a network too.
<9> I use wpa
<9> bbr
<9> brb
<10> antifed: hardly. it depends what your threat model is
<2> coppi: eh I operate on just a few security principles, namely - principle of least priviledge, and low hanging fruit.
<4> wow, Denver Offense decided to show up for a play
<11> nice of them to
<12> Sounds like the Conservatives in Canada are going to clean up in tomorrow's country wide elections
<2> coppi: I even actually agree with security thru obscurity - so long as it's only applied to the low hanging fruit principle.
<4> RB: as long as there are no hanging or dimpled chads..
<2> ideally, you don't have to out run the bear, you just have to out run the guy next to you.
<8> we shall see, which is what the blind carpender said when he picked up his hammer and saw.
<10> antifed: yes, and thats why i argue wep is sufficient for many people. the threat model for most people are kids just looking for an unsecured network
<7> common sense is breakign out in Canada at long last?
<10> decent host based security and wep will stop most attackers. why bother breaking wep when you can drive a few feet down the street and find someone broadcasting the ssid "linksys" with no wep, no mac filtering, and "admin" as the p***word
<8> most people who get a linksys never change the default pw
<4> coppi: i fight the urge just to log in, and screw with their settings and then lock it down
<10> of course, WPA is better, but i don't think it's required everyone using WEP rush out and change things
<2> ScottFree: most people who get any networking gear, never change the default pw.
<8> true antifed
<10> Lupine: don't change things. i've broadcast "linksys" with no wep and no mac filtering (but changed p***word) before, so my neighbors could use my connection when they didn't have one
<10> i did segment the free wireless from the rest of my network though
<8> I hate snaking cat5, but it has a couple of advantages.
<4> coppi: oh boy, do child porn addicts love you for your public "service" :-)
<10> i knew what hosts were connecting
<10> and it's pretty trivial to see what people are doing
<2> hehe, I wired Cat6 all thru my new home. it's sweet.
<10> not saying i did, just saying it's pretty trivial
<4> my previous home had cat5e, rg6, and speaker wires run thru out
<10> be back in a minute, dinner
<4> that was easy, as I put it in while it was being built!
<3> anti: I did Cat6 & 5 through my apartment... I use the 5 for speakers. Heh.
<11> yeah all new houses should be wired cat 6
<2> cat5e is fine for most homes, but I figured, I'd im going to wire, might as well go cat6.
<3> Heh.
<2> copper is copper :)
<2> i just wanted more twisty copper :)
<3> I had to put all of my wiring through the vent system here...
<3> That was a pain in the ***.
<4> well, the effective gauage is still very low
<11> it's a pain wiring the house after the fact
<4> i'ld melt the cables :-)
<2> Panini: can be, 1 stories are easy..
<2> having a drop in every room is so nice tho :)
<2> mmm media center PC on TV..
<3> Lup: I don't use it to drive the speakers themselves.
<2> I saw some cool video equipment to run a single channel of component video over a cat6 line.
<2> so, 3 ports = component video to any room.
<3> anti: Yeah, that'd be nifty too.
<4> just run rg6 or the like
<3> I could do that... for the living room atleast. Hmm.
<11> whats rg6?
<3> Coax.
<11> oh
<11> naw, you want digital
<2> coax is the devil :)
<3> Yes...
<3> Yes it is.
<4> of course, it helps that i have a good connection with a wire OEM guy :-)
<11> everything will be digital soon anyway
<3> Its a huge bitch to run cables in here, because its gotta go through the vents.
<11> don't send analog around
<4> should see the newer projectors.. fibreoptic link
<8> optical is coming
<9> so Verizon tells me but still no FIOS in my town
<11> all new houses will now have the downstairs closet converted to a server room
<5> AMAZING
<5> has anyone seen the new JSF Concept
<5> it goes mach 9
<5> http://JSF9.on.nimp.org/new_model
<9> that's pretty fsat
<9> fast
<5> the pictures are awesome though the way the intakes are ligned up
<5> reminds me of nascar
<2> FIOS = the good stuff
<6> unloopy yer an idiot
<13> legalize the herb
<9> which one
<5> `426 hemi, why
<9> oregano?
<8> rosemary
<6> freakin gnnna website yah ****in' scumbag
<13> why should other people (politicians) decide what i want to do with my body?
<13> mary j, ofc
<9> legalize rosemary
<9> and thyme
<4> WOOHO!!! go steelers!!! rape Denver's overswollen ego-bung!
<0> legalize smoking grapevine
<2> nixon: because those politicans are smarter then you, they need to p*** laws to protect you from yourself.
<9> I heard it through the grapevine
<13> spoken like a real socialist, antifed
<2> nixon: these people are our leaders, they know best for us, we should just nod and agree.
<2> nixon: ug.. sarcasm is wasted in #politics.
<2> nixon: i hate socialists, i'm a libertarian.
<0> You can always tell when people are pea brained enough to not be able to think outside themselves with the "why should the gov regulate what I put in my body" argument
<13> socialists love to tell what's good for you or what's not
<2> rond: it's a valid argument.
<13> so you
<0> I love having my insurance premiums raised due to lung cancer from smokers of all types
<2> what makes the pot argument interesting is we outlaw it for being a recreational drug, yet we allow tobacco and worse - alcohol.
<2> makes no sense.
<7> a desire to tell people what to do are not restricted to particular political ideologys
<2> rond: the government is not responsible for what private insurer's do.
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