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<0> pilgrim: dunno, heard a blerb on cnn from my tv in the den
<1> OldSChool, "fetuses" can live outside of the womb after 9 weeks
<2> L0c0 my kid is current ina school in Oregon....Inquiring minds and all that....
<0> ooh..i'll turn on the tube and keep you updated
<3> things like that are hardly natural
<3> that is basically living on machines
<0> there's nothing on their site
<0> Sunni party pulls out of talks for a new gov't
<0> good grief
<2> got it
<2> Roseburg
<1> OldSchool, learn the facts
<0> western oregon
<0> yup
<4> Why do you think 15 years old need to waste her life with a child because maybe she havent known or something
<1> the vast majority of premie births go on to live healthy fulfilled lives
<0> suspect tried to kill himself, but cops stopped him
<0> 1 victim, at the hospital now
<5> AND NOW ITS
<5> SPRRRRINGGTIEMEEE
<5> FOR HITLER
<5> AND GERRRMANYYYY
<3> yes, due to modern medical technology, and parents who desire to pursue such routes
<5> DEUTCHLAND IS HAPPY AND GAYYYY
<0> herzen...watching the producers?
<0> FORT LEWIS, Wash. Army officials have recommended a court-martial for a Purple Heart recipient accused of stabbing his young wife 71 times with knives and a meat cleaver.
<0> damn
<6> Is anyone in here using Norton Personal Firewall? If so, there is a possibility that there is an exploit that is being utilized in IRC channels. You may have noticed people coming in here and typing the word "startkeylogger". This is supposedly an exploit in Norton Personal Firewall and will cause your client to die.
<7> Attempting a lame exploit
<6> ack
<0> CB: i've use it, but haven't heard anyting about that
<0> hmm
<6> anyway starly is programmed to devoice for using that word in here .. as you will note she devoiced me :)
<0> CB: i've seen people posting a url after mentioning it
<6> loco let me give you a url
<8> man someone keeps nukin' the **** out of me
<0> but just figured it was spam
<8> spybot keylogger
<6> http://www.hm2k.org/news/1137968795.html
<6> lol its not a nuke .. it is a lame exploit and maybe not even that. Its probably an irc myth :)
<0> dare i type it and find out?
<0> or i could join a channel by myself and try it
<9> L0c0_, are you the keymaster?
<10> startkeylogger
<7> Attempting a lame exploit
<0> DeDannan, are you the gate keeper?
<9> wuggah!
<0> well, i'm stil here
<0> guess not
<0> nope
<11> i just know it keeps taking me out and my firewall keeps blocking the ****
<6> rusty the exploit is working on you?
<11> no
<11> they keep attacking me and it causes my firewall to disconnect me
<0> uh
<0> 426 = rusty?
<12> bbl
<6> oh
<11> they did it last night for about 2-3 hours then stopped until just now
<6> hemi check your firewall logs and determine which address is doing it and then put that address on ignore
<11> and its going through the irc server
<11> i do a dns and it comes back to the irc server i am on at whatever moment
<6> I would also send a copy of the log to their isp
<6> if you have a firewall then it is likely being logged
<6> by your firewall
<11> yeh its all logged but when i do a dns on the ip address it goes back to whatever server i am on
<0> well i use norton internet security, the firewall is just part of the package
<0> dunno if that's why it doesn't work for me
<11> know what i mean jelly bean?
<13> Morning, Comet, All !
<11> howdy FT
<6> morning FreeTrade :)
<0> morning FT
<0> holy crap, the liberal rags are backing the president?
<13> l0c0. noone is backing the president.
<0> the apocolypse is upon us! flee!
<0> hehe
<13> They are backing the deal
<6> well it is supposedly an exploit in Norton Personal Firewall .. so when you see someone type that word (which I will not type because it is a kickban) .. you may want to see if anyone dies
<0> oh ok..*whew*
<10> Mornin boss
<13> There are no security risks and the fact is the companies have very little to do with port management, I just found out they dont even own the ports.
<0> wierd
<13> Wait, They do have a lot to do with port management, but not in a way which involves security issues which are handled in all US ports by the US customs, Coastguard and homeland Security
<6> FreeTrade check message
<13> Morning TT!
<13> I was never backing the president.
<10> FT, they never 'owned' the ports, they were never 'sold' as the hysterical moonbats claimed in the begining.
<13> He and I just happen to agree.
<0> i was talking to my friends at breakfast this morning about it (it was our main topic actually) and we generally came up w/ the same conclusion
<14> eh, um, well... startkeylogger ?
<0> the "security" fears are mostly due to the fears that have been instilled in people by this administration. the talk of a "post 9/11 world" and increased fears of terrorist attacks, etc
<13> The problem is that the opposition came from ignorance, incluging my own initial I need more Data position.
<0> it makes sense
<13> My new data changed my mind within a day or two.
<0> FT: i wouldn't say ignorance... but i think it points out one thing...people do listen to this president
<13> And now i believe that national Security may suffer if we do not go through with this deal.
<13> Ignorance is not a perjorative.
<13> Well it can be used as one.
<13> Ignorance means lack of knowlege. I am ignorant on many topics and I am not ashamed of it.
<0> in a way i can see why congress got upset about the process
<13> If the topic I feel I need to know a lot about, like the middle east, Or Islam, or Global warming I immerse myself in education on the subject.
<0> they'd written a report a few months back criticizing the ?commerce dept? for basically being easy on their definition of a "threat" in relation to these sorta deals
<13> Then I am no longer ignorant.
<13> Loco, If it was just the commerce dept it would be a damn good point.
<5> Springtime, for hitler, and germanyyy
<5> Goosestep are the new step today
<13> But its the Pentago, Its the CIA, its The FBI and its the NID and the DIA and almost 10 more departments.
<0> there was a dock worker on tv today (not sure if it was cnn or msnbc) that summed it up. he basically said that all we've been hearing about is about terrorists and threats from the middle east. i think he says something like "thats' where the bad guys are"
<0> i can see why congressfolk are being flooded w/ calls/mail of disapproval over this issue
<13> I dont feel ashamed of ignorance, all it means is I need to learn. I often tell peopel I cant comment on that I am ignorant of it. But I have been heavily into politics since a very very young age so I know a lot about politics.
<0> i'm not justifying it or call it valid, just pointing out that I can see where this opposition may have grown/exploded from
<10> L0c0_, sure, because the liberal press lied about it completely from the begining.
<10> As usual.
<13> If the same treatment was applied to say Ireland I would be fine. And the same treatment would be applied to Ireland.
<0> this administration has done a good job of fearmongering in the past (imo)
<0> this backlash was a result of that fearmongering
<13> TT in fairness the conservative press misrepresented it to.
<13> Fox News for one.
<10> FreeTrade, I watched it all the time on FOX, they never said the ports were 'sold'.
<0> one concern is the fact that this company isn't just any private company...its a gov't company
<0> but oh well
<13> The point is right now more Republicans are saying, Educate us and we will consider it. More Democrats are saying dont even give it a hearing, and this morning i heard the reason being solely, Because its Arab.
<0> i needa pee!
<10> Further FOX always was leading to the fact that more needed to be known on the issue.
<2> during the period right after WWI, and after the flu epedemic, and after the 1918 rev in Russia, there was a general fear of a communist revolution here. Due to that, and due to the ***ociation of slavs, and germans with this, many of these were rounded up and deported. Legality be damned.
<13> TT, They had a group on yesterday on their day time show which unanimously opposed it, but the moderator of the groups inferences were all bad about the deal so they being idiots are going to agree with the crowd.
<2> my poitn was: in that period, Slavs were mistrusted, and displked as an ethnic group
<10> Daytime?
<13> Now note that I said idiots because they agree with the crowd. Not because they agree or disagree. I think we can all agree most talk show tv programs are pretty lame.
<13> Especially a talk show news show.
<13> Charles Krauthammer came out for it yesterday.
<13> THats huge for a number of reasons.
<13> Besides his impeccable intellect.
<15> hey all
<10> FT, but this " the ports were 'sold'..." **** only came from the liberal press, and from the begining.
<13> noone is talking about the ports are sold, they are talking about the wisdom of it.
<13> And can they block it.
<13> And as pickle pointed our yesterday Bush's advisors dropped the ball on this by not making it more important to the president.
<10> FT, they aren't saying that now, sure, but in the begining that was the term used, 'sold'.
<13> Because the more people learn facts the more the learn there isnt a threat.
<13> Brit Hume is uniquely the most fair and intelligent program on daily news. IMO. and in the opinion of the UCLA study.
<13> He has treated it fairly
<6> I agree ft .. I am beginning to change my mind on this issue
<13> Krauthammer wrote something negative about it 2 days ago and changed his opinion yesteday for reasons he explained.
<6> and I bet a lot of ppl will
<6> my first reaction was that this was a ridiculous thing to do .. but I did a lot of reading yesterday and my opinion is changing.
<13> If we angered the UAE because we blocked them because they are Arab, and that would be the reason. The could get angry and refuse to help us anymore, that would be a huge blow to our national security. As you probably heard in the news yesterday they have facilities for us to repair our naval ships
<5> UAE is pretty important
<5> to U.S. interests in the Middle East
<5> Centcom for the theatre is hosted there
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