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Comments:
<0> wasn't Ryan89 already banned from here once?
<1> Ryan: and they're all retarded if they don't have a PROVEn reason
<2> make the pledge locational :)
<3> 'legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof' .....
<4> let him live in his little world
<1> YOU claim that it's unhealthy ryan
<1> PROVE IT
<4> but keep him powerless
<3> thats 'separation of church and state'
<5> baaba: my stated p***sed an amendment that defined marriage as between a man and a owman..and didn't allow same *** couples to have the same rights
<3> nothing more
<6> baaba: yeah cause i make liberals angry cause i dont let them rattle me
<1> that's th eproblem with religious psychos
<1> they don't know what evidence means
<4> exaclty
<5> the suprome court shot it down...and I think this battle will lead to the issue finally going away
<7> you accuse him of using ad hominem in his argument then you base your entire argument around bandwagon.... hypocritical
<6> "religious psychos". and you wonder why you cant win an election
<5> the state supremee*
<2> Ryan89: you're too blind to realize you've been arguing mostly with libertarians, not liberals.
<0> Ryan89: no because you troll and claim all sorts of truths with nothing but your opinion to base them on
<1> they can't prove anything because evidence isn't a part of their lives. They don't know what objective thinking is.
<3> there is nowhere in any official document the term 'separation of church and state'
<6> how am i trolling?
<6> im not entitled to my beliefs?
<1> Ryan: are you against gays having civil unions?
<3> it exists only from a jefferson statement
<1> he's not trolling
<1> he's just stupid
<3> and he defines what he sees the separation as
<3> the same thing the constitution says
<6> my iq is over 150. how is that stupid?
<3> thats the wall of separation
<4> well maybe he was born in 1989...give him a few years
<1> which is bmc? (i know you said it before)
<3> 'legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof' .....
<3> :P
<2> Ryan89: political stupidity has nothing to do with IQ.
<6> born in 1980, college educated, run a small business. have faith in God. im conservative
<1> there ya go
<3> that is the extent of the 'wall of separation'
<6> "political stupidity". now what does that mean?
<0> Ryan89: you're entitled to your beliefs
<1> you're conservative because your parents told you to be, taht's the same reason you think you have faith
<1> tell me
<6> suna: my parents are democrats
<1> have you ever come up with your own opinion about anything?
<8> how about laws disresepcting establihment of religion?
<1> yah, right
<6> suna: im dead serious
<2> Ryan89: you have no concept over what the nature of American government is.
<7> iq over 150 and still believes in god?
<6> my father believes in socialism
<4> i think he comes up with his own opinions. they're just not based on empirical evidence
<6> i formed my own beliefs after weighing them carefully
<1> every religious lunatic will swear that they're parents wern't religious or conservative when you accuse them of it
<1> every single time
<3> did einstein beleive in god? :P
<8> Ryan I am a staunch conservative....PAGAN
<9> wiretapp, WHY NOT?
<0> and what exactly is wrong with gay adoption then?
<9> Damn caps lock
<1> so, according to (untrustworthy) religious lunatics...the religious right doesn't exist
<6> pilgrim: im so far to the right i should be fascist
<2> bmc: not a christian god; no.
<1> yoru word means nothing to me
<6> suna: what?
<8> and I too am dead serious
<0> as studies show the children are just as healthy as any other kids
<3> Libertine i just said god
<1> einstein believed in his idea of god yah
<7> bmc better question is would einstein believe in god if he was alive today
<1> he did
<2> bmc: Einstein was at best a deist.
<3> i didnt make it denominational
<0> Ryan89: so where's your careful weighing come in there?
<6> hey i cant keep up with all of you
<1> so does stephen hawking, but his definition is wacko
<6> if you want to say something to me /msg me
<1> least I think it' shawking i'm tinking about
<6> ill explain my beliefs to you if you really care
<1> i **** with names
<8> and I too am dead seriousthing is, so many confuse CHristian fundementalism and conservatism
<1> Ryan: are you against gays having civil unions?
<10> There is no correlation between intelligence and belief in God
<5> pilgirm: no kiddin
<6> suna: if it means they can adopt kids, yes
<3> anyways my point was people exaggerate the 'separation of church and state'
<10> that is ***inine
<3> its very limited
<4> are you against the existence of gays?
<3> and pertains only to LAW
<8> Hawking is the most intelligent human currently alive imho
<1> gays can adopt kids with or without a civil union
<2> ah yes.. we all know homo***uality spreads from human conduct.. someday it may become airborn!
<6> halcion: no i believe everyone is a sinner. i dont hate gays, but i think homo***uality is a sin
<1> forget the issue of adopting kids
<2> then.. we'll all become homos...
<10> pilgrim: everyone knows it's Alex Trebec
<1> do you support gay civil unions
<8> babies spread from human contact
<1> the same tax rights
<1> the same everything
<6> suna: adopting kids is what this is all about. they want to be a legitimate family
<0> Ryan89: why is it a sin?
<1> that man & women have?
<6> baaba: wasnt God's plan
<8> MudFlip I do not knwo that name
<0> that's your careful weighing of facts?
<4> and how do we know God's plan?
<3> hey life is a ***ually transmitted disease
<2> Ryan89: heh, i find it troubling you require the government to tell you if you are a 'legitimate family'
<0> and empirical evidence?
<6> God created opposite *** organs for a purpose
<3> and is 100% fatal
<4> through jewish documents
<3> :P
<1> Ryan89: I suggest you take a cultural anthropology cl*** so you can learn how new and irrelivant the traditional nuclear family (which you call legitimate) actually is
<3> this evil virus of life must be extinguished!
<6> suna: its very relevant to me
<8> Halcion I prefer pre jewish documents
<1> i hate to burst your littel bubble, but children have been raised just fine & dandy in non-nuclear families for centuries
<6> i hope to raise my children with 2 loving parents
<8> the Necronomicon for example :)
<6> man and wife
<1> there is no evidence to suggest that it's necessary to preserve
<1> however on the contrary
<1> there is significant evidnce to suggest that trying to preserve the nuclear family when it's time has p***ed IS problematic and damaging to society
<3> its a moral issue, it disrupts the "social fabric" of the country
<1> but, i forgot, you don't believe in evidence
<8> Ludwig Prinn's de Vermis Mysteris
<2> pilgrim`: you need to stop reading books written by mad arabs.
<6> suna: i believe its more problematic to destroy the family like liberals want to do
<6> turn women into men and vice versa
<2> elder gods! sim sim salabim!
<8> Libertine I have a colelction of 1st ed Arkham House
<4> I love America because of our freedom. Ryan wants to curb that freedom. Ryan is AntiAmerican
<6> its dangerous and unhealthy
<1> Ryan: and you're wrong. It's been proven. Educate yourself and get over it moron
<5> Halcion; where are you from?
<3> Halcion what freedom?
<6> who's proved it?
<3> what freedom does he want to curb?
<1> sociologists, anthropologists, etc
<10> Freedom in America is eroding
<4> the freedom to contract
<2> Ryan89: you turn to government to provide official status of a legitimate family.. you realize this makes you a slave to your government right?
<0> Ryan89: why is it destroying a family if you allow two people who love eachother to be together and care for a third person through adoption, care for that person just as much as any straight couple would for their children?
<6> it has nothing to do with science though
<1> they actually go out and research the impact of these things
<3> there is no freedom from religion
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