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<0> tweek: this was primarily incl***, off-topic political rants.
<1> in fact I can't really remember seeing anything specific about how those ***holes were screwing around in-cl***
<2> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/prettygirlsmakemenervous/faucet.jpg
<1> and I checked around the ****ing site. but beside the point; what's the grounds of the suit?
<0> at university of miami, they had a mathematics professor who spent the entire lecture day, every day, ranting about bush
<3> Greetings
<1> man, those guys need to be ****ing fired
<0> the grounds? heh.. no free speech for students I guess :-)
<1> speech codes FTL
<0> that faucet should add yellow-dye to the water :-)
<4> Hello Lupine
<3> or a pendulum to that point in the sky
<1> at any rate, I'm not sure what the hell giving a prof a petition to sign about a proposed federal Constitutional amendment and noting their signature on their ****ing blog has to do with radical lefsit bias in college.
<5> Lupine, there is no excuse that such people cant be fired.
<0> FT: I agree
<0> in this case, students demanded their tuition back.. but no go
<1> but, hey, power to him, whatever. he wants education by profs that only believe what he wants them to believe, even if they don't advertise the fact whatsoever, he's gonna be ****ing stupid.
<5> If it was a political science professor you might cut him slack, but a math professor if I was dean it would be. Listen, Stick to math get off Bush or your fired.
<5> Of course his public employees union would sue me the next day and I would be on the defense.
<0> tweek: yea.. if a student is taking chemistry, he should accept it if the professor only talks about trosky and marx all cl***
<6> that happens all the time, too
<1> **** that.
<6> wait, no it doesn't
<1> I've *yet* to see a ****ing instance of that, myself.
<5> Thats what pisses me off about my daughters science cl***, the ****er talks politics all the time.
<1> most of my profs stay the **** away from politics.
<0> timur: what matters more is that the university allows it, and does not do anything about it..
<1> my sister's in a different, larger school and she's never noticed anything similar either.
<7> radical leftist bias in college
<0> tweek: it seems to be very campus dependant
<7> hah
<7> what do you expect when teachers don't make any money
<4> tweek is threatning to kill me
<0> undergraduate I never seen it in the cl*** rooms.. and only saw some oncampus from the polysci professors.. graduate? ugh, it was horrible
<3> would that be a bad thing?
<5> At least for comic relief there is a very wild kid in the cl*** who talks politically incorrect **** all day long. he talks about how repressed Berkeley high school is and he thought it was supposed to be open to all ideas and everyone hates Bush, and that he loves guns and **** which probably terrifies the teacher, My daughter tells me these stories and I laugh.
<1> nongo is randomly /msging people racial slurs
<1> and, yes, he does deserve to die, and in a painful way too.
<1> ****ing trolls.
<0> FT: lol, yea.. sometimes those who preach "tolerance" are the most intolerant of others
<7> I get very very very very very very very very very VERY little of this 'RADICAL leftist bias' in my field
<7> all you get when you're not in poli sci is a occasional teacher bitching about being poor and not liking bush
<5> A good school environement would have lively debate and dissent from every side of these issues.
<1> Lupine: so, what, heckling a prof is alright?
<7> get over it
<1> ****, I'd kick someone's *** for randomly shouting out 'Bush ****s!' during a lecture.
<5> But you know at Enlightened Berkeley, dissent is looked at like the devil was speaking.
<1> mebbe leftsit bias only happens when the profs are being heckled...?
<7> the only poli sci instructers i had (i've had like 3 as backup courses, then when my other courses came through I got the pleasure of dropping them" were conservative
<8> could be that educated people are more likely to be objective, and thus dislike bush ;)
<0> FT: yes, it has that reputation
<1> ****ing hell, this conspiracy **** gets worse every ****ing second.
<7> and didn't talk about bush
<3> a good unbiased education shall never be while profit is king. Simple.
<5> Renea, thats not even funny./
<5> Because in fact its a subjective opinion.
<0> Renea: Could be that "educated people" who can't hold a real job, more likely like kerry :P
<5> No it could be that educated people are not
<5> Why is my daughter very rightwing and yet an A student ?
<5> Why ?
<1> Zenabi: I disagree; quality, objective cl***es are sought after by most people that want education, and therefore would be more valuable.
<7> why are conservatives so quick to make everything as extreme as possible? the RADICAL liberal bias! the WAR on christmas!
<3> cos her teachers are so?
<0> anyways, I do not believe tenure to apply to behavior not germaine to teaching the subject matter.
<7> it's not a few people complaining, IT'S AN ALL OUT WAR! HIDE!
<5> And why is it people in red areas are higher educated than people in blue areas if I may use a color generalization.
<1> FreeTrade: tell her to send death threats to her profs, I guess, to SUMMON THE FORCES OF EVIL.
<0> suna's foaming over at the top
<5> Yes country people in fact are better educated.
<6> yeah
<7> lupine: i'm frusturated at a dresser from ikea
<7> :P
<5> Even though I am not country.
<9> suna, if Alito is confirmed, the world will end
<7> i'm stuck
<7> ;p
<6> dem country people r so good edumacated
<3> yee Haa
<0> The Washington Post shut down one of its blogs Thursday after the newspaper's ombudsman raised the ire of readers by writing that lobbyist Jack Abramoff gave money to the Democrats as well as to Republicans.
<0> At the center of a congressional bribery investigation, Abramoff gave money to Republicans while he had his clients donate to both parties, though mostly to Republicans.
<7> there are 2 possible holes to stick this peg in
<5> I am right in the middle of one of the top 3 I guess urban centers in the USA. or would it be 4 ?
<8> FT: colors on maps are highly misleading
<7> and it doesn't tell me which one
<7> all it says is
<7> '1x'
<7> mother ****er
<7> i'm anonyed as hell
<10> heheh gotta love Dio!
<0> <7> there are 2 possible holes to stick this peg in
<7> but i gotta do something, my living room is all torn up
<0> suna: just stick it in which ever hole is tightest!
<6> FT: why shouldn't your daughter be both rightwing and educated?
<5> Condi Rice was not just a professor she was a highly honored professor.
<7> lupine: same size
<7> the dresser is a whore
<6> I know educated people who are right, left, moderate
<0> ahahahahaha
<5> Thomas sowell from over at Stanford, and formally from Harvard, the Same.
<6> and less educated ones who are as well
<7> i'm serious though i dunno wtf to do
<7> ;/
<3> affirmative stuff
<10> FT, as a dedicated Iron maiden fan you should know who Ronnie James Dio is=)))
<1> Lupine: the /. article actually mentioned the wave of hate mail that came after the article as the main reason for shutting down the blog.
<8> FT: Nobody ever said there were not educated conservatives.
<9> has Condi recently expressed any interest at all in running in 08?
<10> he lives around the corner from me=)
<7> i figure when after a few i'll calm down and the answer will be obvious
<7> thus i am here
<1> Lupine: but if you want to attribute that to teh evil lefsit bias, go ahead, ****.
<0> tweek: which would be bull****, as they would just not post the email :P
<5> Timur, You didnt hear me, I said my daughter is rightwing and an A Student.
<8> FT: In response to the "vast left-wing conspiracy in higher education" comments, I was merely supplying a counter-argument.
<5> She is educated this her first year our of home school,
<6> FT: I did hear you, and I replied, why should that be considered remarkable, aside from her being smart?
<3> FT: Are her teachers "right"?
<5> As in Math and all the intellectual cl***es, a couple b's in cl***es where they talk about politics all day
<1> 'post the email' - you do realize that nearly every blog can be commented on anonymously, right?
<3> if so, hence her "A"'s
<6> because as I said, there are educated and uneducated people of all political stripes.
<6> there's no correlation
<6> that I can see, at any rate.
<0> tweek: That is the point: they can stop/censor the comments/email.. but STILL leave the article up.
<5> Yes if you listend to me contrrare to Renea. I was saying that a good school would be having engaging debate over all these issues,.
<1> Timur: seems to be at least some political grouping when different professions are considered.
<0> tweek: but in this case, the washintong post choose to censor their own Ombudsman.. :-)
<5> At which she said the reason the opinions at places like berkeley high school are monolithic is they are educated better.
<5> On the contrary thats a poor education
<6> tweek: really? like.. engineers, doctors, nurses, accountants, or what?
<1> Lupine: ... ****, the blog I was posting in is continually hammered by trolls ...
<5> A good education provokes critical thinkning.
<1> Timur: no one wants to be an engineer. please.
<7> There is a leftist bias (usually) in most colleges, but what would happen if there was a rightwing bias? especially a RADICAL rightwing bias? Every university would have "The college of intellignet design"
<5> thinking and it provokes debate and exchanges of ideas..
<8> FT: I never said Berkeley high school, nor was I replying to that. I was replying to suna.
<1> Timur: most polls point to an overwhelming imbalance in party alignment with both teachers and reporters...
<6> FT: ah, right. Debate is important, of course, but I'd wonder about the terms allowed in a 40-min cl*** for such a debate
<7> you're never going to have a situation without bias, being about to PROPERLY label where the bias occurs gives you an advantage. Any situation that appears unbiased is much more dangerous imo
<5> My daughter doesnt dare talk about anything conservative because kids will look at her like satan just entered the cl*** room. I.E., They are brainwashined idiots.
<6> tweek: and perhaps among businessmen and accountants as well? :)
<5> If they werent they would respect dissent.
<1> Timur: it's a bit of a jump to go from that to 'TEH VAST LFET-WING CONSPIRACAH'...
<5> Or at least know the definition of dissent
<6> FT: well, if she can defend her positions factually, then it shouldn't be as much of a problem as if not.
<5> There is no indicator of a poor education that a person who cant understand why anyone else could think different.
<6> tweek: agree
<1> Timur: ****ed if I'd know. you'd think that accountants would be naturally fiscally conservative, but that might not apply that well to their political views.
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