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<0> funny how the Cdn Women's team wins gold, setting a new goal scoring record of 16-0 against Italy, yet the men's team, all NHL players, don't even make it to the semifinals
<1> Bush has made his position clear on this matter
<1> He stated that he will veto any legislation that scuttles it
<2> DeDannan, You better reconsider what you think I do which is to protect Dubya, I only defend him for what *I* agree with him about. If you want to engage in immature ad hominem attacks it wont get you far.
<3> its like when bush people said anyone opposed to miers was a ***ist
<2> More than anything debate these issues like grown ups not ****ing children.
<4> Katey: you think the foreign country is conrolling port security? My, you're regurgitating the democratic talking points I see. :)
<3> FreeTrade you are the one engaging in ad hominem attacks, calling anyone who opposes the sale a racist
<2> Katey he may yet cave to political pressure if it gets strong enough



<5> uh im a 'bush' person and not only did i say that i was opposed to her
<6> FT, seems this is another of those media h***les to me, here we have something that goes on all the time, the same people were involved with the Brits, and now it's a big deal. Republicans can't support it in an election year, yet the press knows Bush wants it as this has been going on all the time, AND Dubai is helping in the war on terror.
<1> Tempest-, well, how would you describe it?
<2> There will be support for bush on wall street most likely and in the finance community, but the common american will probably get worked up
<2> And its the common joe who votes.
<3> the worry is that a terrorist type could get into the port as an employee more easily now and gather info on the security measures and weakpoints
<6> FT, it's the media after Bush, lowest common denominator.
<3> thats certainly one worry
<7> yup
<8> hola
<3> of a thousand permutations
<4> Katey: simple. foreign company has to submit to US customs and whatever else security is in place, as usual
<5> the shoe bomber was british your point?
<8> It WORKED! I am so amazed
<7> or let's say some idiot imam issues a fatwa against the US...
<1> Tempest-, heh. okay.
<7> pilgrim hola amigo
<3> also that in case of a conflict in the middle east or anger by muslims over a different cartoon, that the port might be shut in protest
<1> In other words, a foreign, state owned company will control port security
<2> I would love to see in the end that my fellow Americans can look past the discrimination clases embodied in american law and make their decision based on rational judgement and not on race or emotional feelins which have no reason
<1> Thanks for the clarification
<8> ko nichi wa panini san
<2> if they arent a threat they arent a threat
<4> Katey: "heh, ok" may be fine for you, but that's a big difference froim the strawman you regurgitated above. :)
<2> Period
<9> "except politically how it will hurt him" - bush cannot be hurt politically. he is a dictator (i have no opposition to that, though).
<1> Tempest-, er...no
<5> we could nationalize the ports if needed
<6> FT, see your messages
<2> I dont care if they are yellow, white, brown, blue, black or whire.
<7> yes, it's very possible they would shut down our ports in response to something silly like cartoons
<3> i think we should stop selling ports to foreign companies period



<2> white
<2> biff, thats an intelligent objection to these sales.
<8> ooo lets do that, we can nationalize all the potatochip factories too!
<2> I respect that
<3> us ownership of ports is something to encourage for tactical reasons
<5> bush is NOT a dictator false sound bytes do not a discussion make
<2> I respect your opinion though I dont agree with it.
<2> But its honorable
<8> Bush bashing is a religious thing these days
<6> b1ff, we still own the ports.
<1> Tempest-, one ***umes that criminal activity would be contrary to US customs laws
<4> Katey: how do you translate that into a foreign state controlling prt security? Port security will still be under control of the US federal government... Customs and what not.
<6> b1ff, this is about management
<3> tailorship management or ownership
<3> it doesnt matter
<10> FT: Do you think there'll be a civil war between thew shiite and sunni muslim in iraq after the golden mosque bombing?
<8> US securiyt will be under the control of the easily bribable guard's Union Boss...just like it always has been
<3> for example we use the ports for military stuff in time of war
<3> you want the ports run by furriners?
<2> But his position that he thinks no american ports should have any ownership or investment by any foreign country is a legitimate opinion.
<1> Tempest-, If a foreign, state owned company in left in charge of securing US ports...that doesn't seem a bit of a problem to you?
<2> its bases on his ideology as is my opinion, its not based on race or religion or discrimination
<8> as long as I know who to pay to get my drugs and guns into the coutnry, and counterban Game Cubes. I will be happy
<11> startkeylogger
<1> A foreign nation's primary concerns are its own interest
<6> Katey-, that's not the case here, they aren't in charge of security.
<2> Biff here is a thought though, the company which is trying to buy the port gives us full military access to their airfields and thier air space
<4> Katey: where do you get that some foreign company will be in charge ofsecuring US ports?
<12> thanks pickle!!
<6> Katey-, TRY to at least be honest
<10> Especially ownership by a muslim arab country with strong ties to Al Quaida
<8> problem with a rich forign owner is they are too well off and too far to bribe
<2> and is probably within the top 5 most important allies on terrorsim
<13> what security? hell less than 5% of the cargo coming into US ports ever gets inspected...
<8> I want someone both local and corruptable
<3> ownership investment management - whatever - its of national interest. im very very libertarian when it comes to what i think the role of govt is... unlike the Libertarians I think ports, borders, etc are part of our govts responsibility
<14> JanetB: np
<2> If not 5 , without question within the top 10 nations helping us fight terrorism


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