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<0> (1) DE - $65,362
<1> Im only going to talk about economics anymore, I refuse to debate people.
<2> we'd be the land of selfish bitches
<1> Free trade has made us rich, even while other countries imposed barriers...
<1> Why ?
<3> Publius: How many ppl would be in the US if you deported no illegals?
<2> "omg omg omg debate the illegals" <-----15 million mexicans
<2> ARE YOU INSANE
<1> Well, Because we pay less for goods again.
<0> californias large economy comes from the fact they have 35+M people
<1> Any tarriff is automatically paid for by the american people.
<2> deport*
<2> **** this deporting garbagfe
<2> grow up...heh
<0> those 35 mill people arent anymore important than the rest of the nation
<4> there is no such thing as free trade, trade like an economic activities has costs that are socialized (externalities)
<5> bmc: lotsa countries have that many people
<6> Lithium- 1) i dont think the majority of the popolation would even allow themselves to be removed from the US, but besides that. Do you think the rest of US would take kindly to that? do you think that it may hit their economy so hard that they couldnt survive secession?
<6> Lithium- it isnt plausable
<1> And 100,000 job loss in a 4.7% UI economy in exchange for 100 million in savings for consumers is irrelevant
<5> bmc: not a lot of countries have the silicone valley
<0> their needs/desires are no more important,
<1> the job losses to macro economics are irrelevant.
<6> even if it worked, the socioeconomic backlash would criple cali
<0> Lithium- the point is per-capita cali isnt that wealthy in comparsion with other states
<1> In fact capitalism tells us those jobs should go
<0> Lithium- so their economy shouldnt be setting policy for the rest of the nation
<7> free: China....now thats a real force....too bad people won't give up their ps2's, PCs, Ipods, etc...
<5> ManKind: economically cali would be much better off by itself
<1> Our low dollar has helped our economy a lot over the last few years.
<6> Lithium- you are missing my point
<2> VemoD: they are in reaaaal danger of collapse
<6> it has that stability BECAUSE it is part of the US
<2> in a few years
<2> I hope to god it doesn't
<1> Its made it cheap to buy in america and yet no cheaper for us, we have had record profits and income.
<7> Yeah, lets make them here
<0> cali has to buy energy from the rest of the country
<2> let's help em out
<2> mutual stuffzx
<0> if not for the union cali would have collapsed
<6> bmc exacltly, not to mention water rights
<4> low dollar means high interests needed to keep foreign capital here to finance our public and private debt
<1> The economy is not any single part, its the mosaic which makes up the whole economy..
<8> Lithium-: well actually, how would CA have gotten all of us workers that I work with.... across the CA border from the east coast & midwest ?
<7> $600 Xbox anybody? :)
<6> and that many US citizens would probably boycott LA based hollywood
<2> FreeTrade: I am really getting into economics
<8> and Asia
<2> it is so incredibly complex
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