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Comments:
<0> concealed carry is for portable protection
<1> Kalo -- oh there are some great web sites that offer modular buildings -- run google see if there are some near you -- they do work quite nicely for that
<2> the 9mm I use is a bit unique
<0> you can use a longgun at home
<3> pil, what is your 9 ?
<0> no need to conceal
<2> a Detonics Pocket 9 loaded with Glaser Safety Slugs
<3> ahhh very good
<4> safety slugs rock
<2> I like to be a good neighbor
<5> Twobar thinks that we need safer guns and safer bullets
<6> bmc: But my 12ga. makes an aweful mess.
<3> thats the ticket, pilgrim
<7> twobar: I've taken gun safety courses and target practice and things. Personally if an intruder broke into my house I wouldn't shoot him in the head. I'd go for the thigh...but yeah under those circumstances I could miss
<1> Cathy -- I kinda like my little Ruger -- easy to handle and sure shot -- stupid 357 too small for my hands... sad to say - but works nicely for ankle gun
<0> Cathy344 they have people that will clean that up
<2> ever hit a milk jug with a Glaser?
<8> What's a 'safety slug'?
<2> it...explodes
<1> Cathy - ya 12 ga does -- so does a 20 -- kicks like a mule too
<2> Tailor it is a prefragmented round
<9> oh no here we go with the gun talk
<6> I need to get a handful of speedloaders for my .357.
<7> twobar: If he's smart he'll be wearing a nice vest...so don't shoot there hahaha :)
<1> pilgrim -- not if I want to use that milk jug for later...
<9> at least once a week
<0> just do like billy the kid
<2> it will kill a bad guy gery dead, but seldom will penetrate a sheet rock wall
<0> $2 in dimes
<4> i fire a Kimber Custom II .45
<3> VemoD, I would not go for the thigh: My goal is to STOP him, if he happens to die, that is secondary. Therefore, I'd aim either upper chest, or at the thigh area, to break bones there, and make him go down
<4> 7-8 rounds
<0> or $1 something
<9> who has what gun etc.
<2> very
<0> wtf ever it was
<6> glaser is like a shutgun shell scaled down to hanggun rounds.
<4> torso shots all the way
<3> what the heck is that area around our gentials called ? that bunch of bone
<9> how would they shoot such and such a person
<5> 2 in the body, 1 in the head
<0> sternum?
<4> pelvic
<3> pelvic, thank you
<10> Twobar: "penis"
<0> pelvis
<3> hahaha
<6> Miguk: Aim small, miss small.
<2> Glaser uses #6 shot suspended in liquid teflon placed under pressure inside a copper jaket
<10> =)
<2> loaded Plus P
<4> lol, yep
<3> VemoD, the pelvis is a good place to aim also. It can break bones and they go down
<11> liquid teflon...
<11> mmm
<2> yep
<10> good place for a woman to shoot a rapist.
<1> TWO - they go down when hit in kneecaps a whole lot faster
<3> pilgrim, I dont think you can use plus P in the detonics, can you ?
<10> in teh balls
<0> 6" to the left and 12" below the left shoulder
<6> It's not liquid teflon.
<2> its a trade secret how they do it
<11> pelvis = femoral artery = bleed out
<3> Kaliuna, its too small an area to focus on
<6> It's just not firmly hardened.
<0> or 6" to the right
<0> :P
<1> TWO - not if you are good -- and hit what you aim at
<7> twobar: Yup...but your mom isn't as tough as we are. Not much else to think about....my mom would be useless in a situation like that too
<12> haha
<2> Two yes. this is the 9mm not the Portsider, or their other fancy guns. I also have a Combat Master...very low serial
<6> Just aim center of m***, screw arteries or pelvises.
<3> Kaliuna, I am a good shot, but I aim at upper chest or pelvic area if I am very close. If I am closer than that, I will aim for their head/face
<7> twobar: Well...she'd jump in front of the child or jump on the intruder or something
<0> you aim for a vital zone
<3> pil ahhh
<1> Cathy that works IF they aren't wearing vest...
<12> "what's so funny? how am I funny? funny like I'm a clown? like I'm ****ing here to amuse you?"
<2> Two btw. this is 1st Detonics, not the reorganized company
<10> yeah, use the second shot for the evil ****
<3> vemoD yes
<12> love this
<3> pil, yes, I figured that
<2> something of a collectable, but a damn fine weapon too
<6> Kali: Which you'll figure out after a couple of rounds, then go under the vest.
<3> exactly
<1> Two -- depends on what your positionis when you shoot -- but ys prefer body m*** - but if ya really want to make them hurt... forever
<0> just aim under their left boob
<1> Cathy -- one round is sufficient... :)
<6> Vests also do **** all against 12ga. at domestic distances.
<0> youre trying to kill em, then aim for an area that will kill em
<2> it holds 6+1 shich is a wonder nine no no but I make up for the lack of rounds in a simple way:
<2> I aim
<11> just don't go wehre you might have to brandish a weapon....
<13> heh
<13> why not stop being stupid
<13> and carry a weapon where you want
<14> pilgrim: good sir, i require you internet l33t skillz for something
<1> Cathy - ya 12ga or 20 will knock them down -- course might also knock you on your tush too.. I'll stick with pistol
<1> TWO -- newest grandson arrived late last night... :)
<12> Kali: mazal tov. :)
<0> Cathy344 they make little splinter shells "flachete" rounds for shotguns that will supposedly just go right through them
<6> Kali: I'm not so easy to knock down.
<0> little shard of jagged metal
<15> how are you doing today, grandma kali :)
<0> shards*
<1> Timur -- ty
<12> welcome :)
<16> Kaliuna: 'grats
<15> and congratulations
<7> He might be Michael Meyers too >B)
<1> Cathy - nor am I - but some shotguns - in a quick shoot -- ehh
<6> Once a guy in a vest is down, their center of m*** becomes the gap under the vest.
<3> Kaliuna, congratulati8ons :)
<13> smoochie smooche
<12> see, that's a lot more interesting than a lot of issues. :)
<1> tweek -- ty -- he's #13 living grands...
<3> hmm how did that 8 get in there at the right spot ?
<4> flechette rounds are cool
<1> TWO - eheheh its right above the 'i"
<4> never fired one though
<6> flechette rounds are banned within NATO militaries.
<7> When I think of someone actually coming into the house to kill a child I think I've seen Halloween too much.
<0> they got one called the "terminator" slug also
<7> But weird things happen when intruders are caught I guess....
<6> I also don't wanna explain to a jury why I killed a home intruder and would-be rapist with ammunition deemed inhuman for military use.
<0> suppose to expand to 1.5x its original size
<11> anyone know what a "wadcutter" round is?
<1> Cathy -- yup indeed it does -- but ahh police range I was on they said I really didn't have to worry - first shot would have taken the "enemy" out - attacker -
<0> or was it 2.5x? either was was big as hit
<0> *****
<12> ok, well
<12> Kali, congrats, gun nuts, later
<4> i prefer gun enthusiast
<1> Kalo -- you shooting black powder?
<6> Kali: One would hope, for his sake, but I plan to fend off wrongful death suits from relatives, not unwarranted use of force suits from disabled attackers.
<17> What's a flechette round do?
<0> there are no ammo rules for home defense
<17> And is that just a hollow point?
<0> you can shoot a guy right in the face with a .300 magnum :P
<1> Cathy -- I don't worry about it -- just shoot the b****ard
<5> Landru concedes to Nagin
<0> wtf
<11> kali: no
<6> mecrosan: It's like a dart the diameter of pencil lead. It bends inside the body and goes all over the place leaving little holes.
<1> swiggy -- really?
<0> WTH is wrong with those people!!!!
<15> new orleans was between a rock and hard place with those two, and they do seem to like it that way
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