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<0> He has a more conservative view of guns and thier ownership.. <1> FR: No, I believe in conservative gunlaws. I wish to go back to how the founding fathers were ;-) <0> The conservative view is liberal. <2> in some countries civillians arent allowed to carry guns <1> bbl <0> And the leftwing view is progressive and illiberal <2> then you ll have to be god damn amish <0> because they want to take the guns away <0> and thats not liberal <1> fr: no, the leftwing is antiamerican and an ***ault upon the constitution <3> An AK-47 under every bed and an RPG in every closest would be my running slogan for president! <4> Nohman: Got my vote! <1> imagine if a state or city crapped on the 1st amendment? or the 4th? <1> where the **** is our "miranda rights" for carrying a concealed firearm? <4> Though, change the AK to an M-14. <0> I refuse to give in to these social constructions. They have no entymological Continuity, They just were born one day out of nowhere.
<5> I got some illiberal views <1> every politician who attempts to infringe upon the 2nd amendment should have been dragged out to teh streets and publically hung for sedition <5> like I don't think people should have the liberty to do drugs <5> or have abortions <5> or get married to people of the same *** <0> The left decided to take tax and spend liberals and apply it to everything they believe. <3> I agree with those 3 cans of worms <0> and the right did the same with conservavtive. <2> go to hell <6> herzen its not even necessarily more experienced in reality, its more jaded. and its not just in politics, theres a common experience people have that they discover there were some flaws in their ideals so they turn against them .. instead of trying to reinterpret them , which is harder <1> oh well, i hope they spend eternity in hell, having thier wife or daughter raped over and over.. and they can't dial 911 <0> But its not true to history or to etymology of terms. <4> Nohman: Well, then me and my girlfriend will take out guns and our votes elsewhere. <2> i think people should marry gay <0> The american Experiment was the most liberal of the 18th centruy <0> and who wants to preserve it the most ? <0> Conservatives. <0> We dont want to change it much <7> conservative != wise imo <0> We want liberal freedoms from government mostly <0> Noone said it equaled wise. <0> it equals a point of view. <3> God is a conservative :p <6> most people today who are liberal or conservative gain their opinions through identifying with liberal or conservative politics, anyway, not through personal revelation <8> Imagine CCW in NYC and Detroit..... <0> Of which I have the opinion is more wise usually. <9> conservatives want for instance to take away women's right to choose <4> God loves fags. <8> crime would fall... <9> that is not "maintaining america's liberal experiment" <3> God can't be a liberal though because liberals are atheists <9> neither is p***ing "defense of marriage" crap <0> Demogogues who are conservative irritate the hell out of me. <9> that is just hateful bull**** <8> Null..I disagree with their stance on that <2> i agree <0> Too bad, people have a right to hate. <2> with homo***ual marrage gays can gert children <9> they have a right to hate, but it should not be the law <4> I'm for a woman's right to choose. Marry a man or marry a woman. It's their choice. <8> the fed has no business using the Constitution for such perfidy <3> Believe it or not, I don't hate anyone <9> georgewbu they can already adopt, so i am not sure what you are talking about <0> there is no constitutional nor inalienable right for government to bless gay marraige.. though on a personal level I am much less bothered by it than most people. <6> .. if you think they are pro-life or anti-gay marriage just because of hate then go ahead and think that <0> There are so much more important freedoms and liberties which all men and women enjoy regardless of ***uality which government exists to protect. <9> we are not talking about constitutional rights, we are talking about what conservatives "stand for", which is turning back the clock <9> it is a myth that things were better "back then" <1> Null: i sure as hell want to "turn back the clock" to pre 1934 NFA <3> I don't agree with killing doctors who preform the abortions, if anything kill the mothers, they're going to kill the baby anyways, might as well go down with the ship <6> nullptr , i think its kind of sick how people think every generation before them was less wise, and old beliefs are now 'obsolete' <0> I Dont really care that much about gay marraige, I think its kind of silly and I mean no offense to gays at all. Whats wrong with simply committed loving homo***ual relationships ? <0> Isnt that enough ? <2> i guess <0> Must government annoint it and wash its feet in oil ? <9> free, if all of the legal benefits are the same, then sure <0> And perfumes ? <9> free, but they're not <2> there are so many straight people who take advantage of not marrying <0> Jesus ****ing christ, lets limit government somewhere
<1> FR: they wish to force everyone else to accept it, irregardless of their own beliefs <2> gays should be happy they can have *** wothout marrige <0> Lupine Any court which overules the will of the people is out of order on this. <10> abortion clinic gets its license yanked for giving a woman the RU 486 abortion drug during the third trimester <5> Did they overturn the South Dakota law yet? <0> its never been sanctioned in the constitution in letter or spirit in fact neither had marraige that I can think of. <0> I mean real traditional marraige. <3> We all know gays were responsible for the fall of the roman empire <2> how E?W?E?We <5> Eh <9> the constitution didn't say women could vote either, or that slavery was illegal, but we fixed that <5> Gays can't get married <5> By definition, its impossible <3> In M*** they can <5> No they can't <9> traditional values = slavery, women can't vote, etc <5> they can 'call' it marriage <4> A) repeal all federal firearms and destructive device laws, and roll the A and T parts of BATFE back under the Treasury proper, disbanding the BATFE and blacklisting all of its personnel from future government service. B) repeal all federal education laws, guidelines, and curriculums, and disband the dept of Ed. C) Disband the IRS and blacklist all of its personnel from future government service, implementing a FAIR tax. <5> but its not marriage <11> redfish I don't think many people belive previous generations were less wise; but the world changes, there are lifestyles now that have never existed before... alternately there is FAR less oppertunity for lifestyles of yesteryear to be feasable. <6> gays? there were m*** orgies also during the fall of the roman empire <4> Those are my first three priorities if elected. <9> so yeah, i think previous generations had some things wrong <9> disagree all you want <0> And what really pisses me off is that people think I might be anti gay because I dont believe in Government sanctioned marraige, Why cant gays get married in a church or a ceremony and let it be private anc consider themselves a couple and all that and just leave the laws alone.. <2> lesbians get nothing <5> Its just intellectually dishonest to call a 'union' between two members of the same-*** a marriage <6> slavery and women not voting were really not the 'values' <5> because its clearly not, and it cannot be <3> Lesbians are better than gays in general <9> i think government doesn't have to sanction gay marriage, if they don't sanction hetero***ual marriage either <4> georgewbu WHAT? <0> Give them the rights they claimed they wanted before they claimed they wanted marraige which the majority of them didnt want only 5-10 years ago. <9> but government should not discriminate <0> They didnt want it <0> So why they sudden change ? <9> you can make marriage just a religious thing, and get government out of that business, and that would be great <11> Fr33Trade inheritance, insurance, medical rights etc... all require a legal bacing <0> Is it simply to get in rednecks faces ? <11> backing <2> the goverment and the television always have gay men <5> Nohman, much to the disdain of those who push the view of the 'clean' homo***ual male, many homo***ual men are into drugs, the club scene, getting busy in a bathroom, etc etc etc <2> why cant there be more lesbians <0> And if so **** them they are bad as the worst rednecks. <5> Nohman, they choose to do it because its quick, anonymous, and nasty <2> SO ARE STRAIGHT PEOPLE <9> redfish they sure were for the people who fought and died to preserve them! <0> Anyone who says I am anti gay I will smash, and I have consistantly been pro gay rights. <3> Please, no details about your personal life Herzen :D <2> gay bar <0> Marraige is just pushing it to far, when you say the state must recognize it against the will of the people in the entire worls. <0> we are only one of 2 or 3 nations in the world which have legal gay marraige <0> and it wasnt democratic either it was a judges ruling <6> nullptr. no 'slavery' wasnt really a value. the southern economy just depended on it. what they did defend was several ideas, that there were differences between races, that states should have rights. a lot of southerners argued that factory workers in the north were treated worse than slaves <2> who are the others? <3> Judges have too much power <6> nullptr there were bigots, but very few people who really wanted slavery <3> Judges making laws is against the constitution <0> Yes Judges who make such laws should be hung by the neck, and thats a conservative view. <0> :) <4> I can't speak for the whole homo***ual conspiracy to destroy the institution of marriage, but for me, I couldn't care less if you want to call it marriage or not, as long as it's all the same undeniable legal rights and priviledges of straight marriage. <0> Cathy, Thats my point <3> It's the legislative branch that is supposed to make the law, not the judicial <5> give em unions, but don't call it marriage <0> IN california we have Domestic Partnerships as legal couplings of gay people. <8> let them have cicil unions... <11> Cathy344 I agree. There should be a way for them to convay the sam legal privlages/responsibilities. <8> let the states decide <12> should there be a "gayrrige" then with the same rights? <11> sam->same <0> and i have no issue with it, in fact I think its a great law. a good way to deal with it. <4> As long as doctors can't prevent me from visiting my wife in the hospital because we're 'not family", I don't care what you call it. <0> the msot important rights gay couples want they get <6> yes lets establish an institution called gayrrige , and then our problems will be solved
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