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<0> But thats so when the sierra club came to the door looking for donations I could simply say on the intercom... NOT INTERESTED!
<1> FreeTrade they can become tools of the govt =) If for some reason they want your camera footage, they WILL come and get it
<0> A lot of people want cameras in my bathroom... Heh..Popular guy ;)
<0> haha
<1> which is fine usually, like in OKC, they got a lot of private cam footage to figure out who/timeline
<0> Bud, You cant really be against private surveillience of your own property are you ?
<0> Yeah in some police investigations it is what solves them or at least completes the story
<0> in the UK It gave them the identity of the 5 or so bombers
<1> FreeTrade no Im not against it at all..
<0> IN the USA it helped fill in the gaps of the 911 investigation.
<0> But the USA has cameras like in stores, and at ATM machines etc.
<0> Not everywhere like in london
<0> Cool, Ive almost converted this format to mpeg, I hope it is much smaller.
<0> 7 minutes to go roughly
<1> FreeTrade all Im against is, say you have a camera recording your front yard
<0> Yeah ?
<1> the govt. can come knocking saying they need the tape
<0> Well I had a graffiti artist hit me once about 10 years ago, I would of loved to have him on tape.
<1> if there was a rape etc.. then fine, id be happy to help
<0> But I really want a camera which aims right at the front door
<0> And the backyard..
<1> yeah i really want some cams also.. one front and one back
<1> i hate it when the dogs go nuts and I cant see what theyre excited about
<2> bud wants a private rodhamcam
<1> cams now are so good, can make a dark night look like daylight on a monitor
<0> you know they come with speakers now, so you can say not intereted when some salesperson comes around.
<3> try floodlights
<1> Airbuster i have them, front and back
<0> I have those on one part of my property which is very useful.. Especiallin in this area becuase it would be a good area to hide and shoot drugs or something.
<1> i have an alley behind me, and its a good distance from my house.. It would just be useful to have a camera
<1> and for the front also, for reasons like FT said, sales people or mormons =)
<0> See, I just can not understand the targeted eavesdropping on known al queda suspects and phone numbers...
<4> there are no alleys around here
<0> That effects such a very small percentage of the population.
<0> Bush wins on this issue big time.
<0> Most people ar elike me and dont see my liberties being violated.
<0> Cameras at every stop light would bother me very much
<0> A) it has nothing to do with terrorism B) It is big brother
<4> i think the neighbors are into meth though there is alot of weird freakin smells that come from their house
<4> and they are always arguing at 4am
<0> So the not secret stuff to me is more worrisome than some of the secret stuff.
<4> for HOURS
<1> `426Hemi is your property attached to theirs?
<1> like the structure
<4> yeh =(
<1> man I would be scared ****less, cooking meth involves boiling combustable materials
<4> the landlord is going through a divroce suddenly
<1> if that **** ignites you cant put it out
<4> so the place is gone to ****
<0> If your neighbors are ****ed up with meth A) Be carful they probably have connections to prison gangs or bikers, and B) Be careful because they could blow up the ****ing neighborhood.
<4> it ****s really
<4> it was awesome for about 7 years
<5> freetrade, thats such bull****, dont get bikers involved
<5> they might have some connections to some scumbags
<1> `426Hemi next time theyre arguing call the po' and tell em you think some lady's getting beat
<1> heh
<1> they will go in
<1> put your mind at ease about dying in a fireball
<4> hahahaa
<4> bud hahahhahahhahaha
<4> LOL!
<0> GOOD GOD, MPEG took a movie which was 53 GIGS and turned it into a file less than 2 GIGS!~
<4> ohhh you are funny
<0> I love this
<0> Now to test it and then delete the others
<6> mpeg what?
<6> and what movie is 53 gigs?
<6> raw HD from a camera?
<7> }=`,))0> o o O ( hello everybody! )
<1> here in CO if any property is used to manufacture meth and gets busted, the property gets a permanent record, and anytime the property is sold the new owners must be notified by law that the property was used in such a manner and may have haz materials.. really destroys the value
<8> Hahahaha
<8> http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=57608
<8> Thats pretty true
<9> FT I understand the need. The concern is abuse. Who oversees this monitoring? I dont want terrorists chatting on cell phones. That said, with it all being secret, how do we know who they listen to. "They" can say political adversaries are supporting terrorism, and that gives them the right to monitor. Its a slippery slope that constitutionally and ethically we should not go down.
<7> }=`,))0> o o O ( FOOOoooOOooOOoOOOooOOOD )
<0> Jesus 26:1 reduction in file size, AV quality excellent
<0> 53 gigs = 8 hours of tv recording
<0> TomM, Every year you and I have sat here and talked, Some covert operatioons were going on in complete secrecy. We have the checks and balances of select members of both parties of congress and we have checks and balances within the intelligence community.
<10> "... And Jesus spake unto him saying, 'Thou knowest not the things of the Hard Drive. For thou art not born of the spirit and thou hast not called tech support. But thy sins are forgiven for thy faith. Do not take nude photos of thy girlfriend again.' Then Jesus left Jerusalem and went down to Galilee..."
<0> Let me give credit where credit is due, these eavesdropping of terrorists have concerned a lot of congress people (Mostly for political reasons though), but there will always be politics and hence always watch dogs on what is going on which is covert
<10> that's from the Revised King Bill Gates Version
<11> US-Male is actually Molly Ivins...
<0> Americans dont connect to this surveillience covert activity they believe its right.. They would connect to something like DNA samples for the government, that would get a lot more Americans upset.
<10> (insert lame "Metal Gear Solid" DNA joke here)
<9> FT..I agree...but this is dangerous water we tread today. I understand the need for security. I also understand, as Im sure you do, the concern for abuse of power. There are numerous examples of it over the last fifty years. Bush is doing his best to keep us safe, I just think this is a little over the top.
<0> Oh the original file was more like 14 gigs, I converted it to .avi mistakenly which made it 53 gigs
<11> TomM--: and precedent setting...
<11> "Bush did this so we can do it, even though we are extending it just a little bit."
<9> jhicks amen...
<11> FISA is all he needs.
<11> It's actually more than I'm comfortable with.
<10> He *could* have gotten the warrant, FT
<11> Retroactively even
<11> There is no valid excuse.
<12> http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/rbracey/lolcano.gif
<9> FT hehe I brought my gang with me! :)
<10> FT! You're getting too Republican. Do not forsake your penis! Return to the Libertarian grounds!
<11> If there weren't a retroactive clause in the law then MAYBE it could be spun.
<11> He's all wet on this one.
<11> (bush)
<11> And Alberto Gonzales and John Yoo are enemies of the constitution.
<0> I am so pleased I got that much compression.
<11> OcDoc: if you unzip him now I will start getting worried.
<13> jhicks: heh
<11> hehe
<13> winzip
<11> bzip2 you heathen :)
<14> RAR! :P
<9> jhicks now give Bush a break. He didnt ask to be in this position. I believe he believes what he is doing is right. I just disagree. Bush is doing all he can to protect us. I think hes wrong in some of his policies. I believe hes sincere.
<11> TomM--: I believe he is being misled by his counsel
<13> I thought we had hydroseeded our slope too late, but the gr*** is sprouting like crazy
<9> OcDoc fu!
<14> TomM--: who the **** are you, and what did you do with the REAL TomM--? :P
<9> IamKing gimme a smooch! :)
<11> TomM--: They've been on this 'executive power' trip since the energy hearings
<13> the more I look at that burned out hulk of a beautiful mansion, the angrier I get
<13> who the **** are these people to say there's too many houses being built on Camano?
<13> the house was being built on an abandoned farm, they didn't even have to cut any trees down to build the house
<11> TomM--: I don't trust anyone who constantly works to consolidate power
<13> the entire island is third growth now
<9> jhicks the executive power issue only comes up with Republicans, Nixon, Reagan, etc...think about it...
<11> TomM--: I believe Democrats can get drunk with power as well
<11> And have.
<11> Kennedy? Johnson?
<13> and there were already thousands of families living here ... it's not like they were the first to build a home on pristine wilderness
<9> jhicks...gawd I hope Hillary gets some of that! :)
<11> not
<13> damn it just pisses me off
<11> The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance. Against enemies foreign and domestic.
<15> errr is Comet here?
<13> it wasn't even a home in a new place on the island ... they replaced an old broken down farm house with a nicer house
<13> jeesh
<14> HillaryC-: let's see the public elect a grotesque bitch now!
<14> ;)
<11> IamKing: that was just vinegar, use something stronger, she just smells like a pickle
<1> our local landfill here was scheduled to be closed, buried and turned into a golf course or somesuch. so people started buying up land around it and building huge dreamhomes. Well county decided it doesnt need to be closed afterall, and they can get decades more use out of it. Talk about a bunch of pissed off homeowners who get to walk out on their luxurious balconies and look at the landfill
<1> serves em right, greedy bastids
<11> budA^: methane kills
<11> No, this is military issue, impervious
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