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<0> and people will say "Yes I'm on the VPN"
<1> You consistantly take the debate away from the issue and bring it to a stupid debate on God knows what, The value of your degree ? Your degree on this channel has 0 value. your ideas have the value that they convince others to agree with or disagree or for the merit of the truth or the falseness of your arguments.
<2> Rebec if they had told her it was broke, sh'd have bought the $500 laptop instead of the $300
<0> instead of saying they don't know what a VPN is
<3> kobushi hmmm I don;t kjnow then
<1> Why do you consitantly remove the argument from the channel and get stuck on some technicality as it were.
<4> KoB because they figure she is a dumb broad and she will 1) not notice it is not working until it's too late 2) think she is doing something wrong 3) is too lazy to take it back
<5> p_O: thermodynamics is a bitch
<1> I repeat Tribe has recently once again proved he can be a total IDIOT
<0> slopearea, yeah, let's boycott it.
<1> And I can describe it and people can make their own judgemnts.
<1> I think most people will value my idea and reason for it.
<6> FT: no, I am debating the issue of your peculiar tendency to use racist comments to ostensibly 'push my buttons' when doing such just undermines your whole argument by making you look like.. an idiot, and hysterical.
<5> p_O: something's gotta give right? :)
<0> slopearea, sure :P
<5> hey man, don't be talking down no dreamers... you never know
<5> let's just wait this thing out
<1> Timur, You are not a race you dumb ****, even you do believe that genetically a woman determines your ethnicity, And I dont even know id you are ethnically what you claim, you may merely be culturally Jewish, or possibly just Religiously.
<6> FT: wow, first '****ing' then 'dumb ****'.
<1> Get the chip off your shoulder about being jewish Timur.
<6> I don't have one
<0> FreeTrade, lol I was there that debate
<6> but you don't know what you are talking about, which is clear.
<0> he believes that the woman determines his RELIGIONOUS BACKGROUND
<3> so how about the superbowl who's going to be in it?
<0> that's a bit different.
<3> PO Jewish people believe that
<1> Your the only person jewish on the chanel I ever see get upset with me.
<0> and I misspell when I use caps, lovely.
<0> :(
<5> Let's calm down here
<5> this is getting out of hand
<6> and you're still focused on that, rather than the original terms of the debate, which is your freakish hangup about it which is all the funnier since it's not even informed.
<3> PO if your mother is Jewish you are Jewish by their traditions
<5> Why don't we show some respect?
<2> relgionous; that must be french
<0> Rebec, I know
<3> PO ok
<6> which makes your hysteria and idiocy even more apparent.
<2> "relig-y-own"
<0> Rebec, that whole debate was about people wrapping the ethnicity and the religion into one though.
<0> KoBushi, shutup :P
<1> You have no self deprecating humor, you have no humility, you have a chip on your shoulder the size of a boulder.
<0> KoBushi, making fun of my spectacular misspellings!
<2> P_O typos are fun
<5> timur: I can't beleive that the ops of #politics denigrate a whole people like that.
<1> ceize power, Learn from Malcolm X. You are not inferior timur and all you need to do to lose the chip is believe it. Malclom X could teach you a thing or two.
<6> slope: well, that's part of the unhealthy dynamic of the channel
<0> Malcolm X was great, except he wouldn't have given a damn about a Jewish person before his later years.
<0> So that's kind of, well, interesting.
<7> Ah... Timur v. FreeTrade again?
<3> PO I'm not sure he gave a damn about anyone other than himself
<3> Katey yeah
<0> Katey-, I grabbed some popcorn.
<7> ok
<0> Rebec, oh he did.
<7> P_O, you never share
<3> PO I don't think so
<1> Actualy Timur is a bit of an insider outsider on this channel, we all love him but he gets in silly fights with most the people frequently.
<0> Katey-, I'm sorry :(
<3> I think he was an opportunistic person
<0> Rebec, well it depends on where you draw the line.
<5> Timur: is this for real?
<0> We are all selfish, that's a belief of mine.
<3> PO and I think he was a grandstander, now MLK I think gave a damn about people other than himself
<6> FT: I never said I was either infeior or superior, and that still has nothing to do with either your obsession or lack of understanding of the issue at hand, nor does it help with your lack of effective presentation of issues or tendency to miscontrue many categories, including, so far, Jewish/Judaism, Education, or Lawrence Tribe.
<0> I think that Malcolm X had enough stock in whatever he was doing (NoI or his family) that he cared about those people,
<3> which is why MLK gets a holiday and Malcom doesn't. I don't know why Einstein doesn't get one
<1> Your actions speak to your feelings of inadeqacy.
<6> maybe you should go to law school, and hone your ability to debate using logic and the fine art of rhetoric
<0> Rebec, did Malcolm X care about anyone else before Nation of Islam? Probably not.
<7> P_O, yeah, I agree. Malcom X certainly cared about the issues he fought for.
<5> What the hell is going on here?
<8> somethings brewing up ahead
<3> slopearea I believe we call it a pissing contest
<6> no, it speaks to acknowledging you have some peculiarities which are of long standing and diminish your ability to be taken seriously.
<3> it will p***
<7> P_O, After Malcom X visited Mecca, his racial ideology shifted.
<5> It seems so absurd
<1> Katey I think Malcolm X was on to something when he said words would lose their power if people would stop being offended by them.
<0> Katey-, aye, I know.
<0> Katey-, he met white people that didn't **** basically.
<0> :P
<3> katey yeah, but I still think he was an opportunistic person
<9> http://www.livescience.com/imageoftheday/siod%5F060119.html
<7> Rebec, how so?
<1> And though I dont use those words, his point was that if noone reacted to the term nigg*r it would no longer have power, This is exactly what he said.
<0> Rebec, I can probably agree with opportunistic.
<3> Katey one second my husband just called me
<1> And he was right but we have never gotten beyong that.
<6> ok, gotta drop off some of this extra food I got
<6> bbl
<0> FreeTrade, good luck getting that to happen.
<1> I have often thought about MLK and Malcolm X.
<0> That word is just as strong now as it ever was really.
<7> FreeTrade, well, there's a lot of truth to that
<1> I have said who woudl i have been if I was born black and was in the positin to be one or the other.
<1> And I have concluded I would of been malcolm X.
<0> I don't think I could've been Malcolm X.
<3> Katey I think Malcom saw and opportunity to exploit a movement etc.
<0> He dropped his whole life and joined the Nation of Islam at the drop of a hat
<1> Katey Malcolm X, Not neccesary the movies version of him, but the real man is a bit of a hero of mine as is MLK
<0> I don't think I could do that.
<7> Rebec, how did he benefit from it though?
<1> Just because i can relate more to malcolm X, doesnt mean I dont appreciate Dr King.
<3> Katy he got into the history books
<2> It is sad that Malcom X's realizations did not transfer into the Nation of Islam
<9> I would choose Tiger Woods and his new wife as well
<9> that is what I would want to be
<1> If I was black treated like dirt, I woudl of been pissed off like Malcolm X< I would of wanted to kill the blue eyed devils.
<2> FreeTrade but you foget that Malcom X realized that his view was wrong
<7> Rebec, heh. That seems pretty small potatoes in the realm of opportunists
<0> FreeTrade, that was based on NoI more than his own beliefs.
<1> But what made him unique and wonderful and I hope I would of done the same, is he became enlightened.
<3> Kobushi yeah Farrakhan is an opportunist too I think.
<0> It's just that his own beliefs becamse NoI beliefs soon after he joined.
<1> HE gave up his hatred based on race.
<3> Katey doesn't have to be big
<7> Farrakahan is a whole different story
<2> FreeTrade it wasn't until after he started preaching AGAINST violence/etc that he was killed
<1> He went to Mecca and his eyes were wide opened.
<7> Rebec, I think he genuinely cared about his principles and ideals.
<1> He saw white muslims, black, BRown, Red, Every color of muslim..
<7> He lost his life over them
<1> It made him meditate.
<2> FreeTrade yet, the NoI down the road from me still hands out hate leaflets
<0> KoBushi, what's funny is the FBI really could've stopped his killing, everyone around him on the day he died was an FBI plant.
<5> farrakhan pretends to be eternally blissful.. the guy might just be a showman seeking power
<0> The guard who tried to save him was an FBI plant.
<5> I don't know
<1> HE had a religious experience (OR at least a psychological one) and he immediately lost all of his racist hatred.
<1> Thats why I admire this man so much
<1> He overcame the worst
<3> katey yeah but people loose their lives everyday even just walking down the street. Anyway I said he didn't care about other people not the principles
<5> Farrakhan overcame his racial hatred?
<2> slopearea no, X
<3> he probably cared about the principles but he was still an opportunist
<1> As a victim of racism he became someone who had no more racist bone in him.
<7> Rebec, but his principles were about people
<3> slop keep up
<10> and then there is Mr. Jackson...
<1> Then of course, Farrkhan and his ilk killed him.
<2> you tell him Rebec
<3> Josephs and sharpton
<3> Kobushi lol I am sorry...I go back to idling
<0> Rebec, I think he cared about his wife.
<5> There were alot of secret "gangs" of "folks" who wanted Malcom X dead.
<3> PO family is different though I mean like average joe on the street
<5> same with any ******ination that wasn't made public
<1> Slopearea, Malcolm X overcame his racism, did I by soem huge mistake say Farrakhan ?
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