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<0> ill take two aspirin and then get drunk
<0> although thats probably bad for the stomach
<1> I was such a person who would never touch a drug..
<2> actually I don't even have tylenol in the house, but say I wantd to take it? It would be very short term
<3> FT, yeah, I just got my refill, I was almost 6 months late getting the refill.
<4> FT: vicodin for migraines?
<0> lets not exaggerate tylenols dangers, though
<5> occ ya you know me
<1> Then I fell on my spinal chord and did permanent damage
<6> occ: For adults
<0> if you dont drunk on tylenol, its harmless, also
<3> Astrodog, I quit smoking in one day after 25 years.
<6> The LD50 for Tylenol is just over 7 grams.
<6> Heh.
<0> yup
<3> Astrodog, drinking too.
<0> even thats bs
<7> spinal cord injury sux ballz
<2> occ: the real problem is acetaminophen is underestimated, not a problem with exaggeration
<8> 7 grams?
<0> you can take 7000mg tylenol
<0> and you wont die
<6> Well
<0> done do it, but you wont die
<0> hehe
<1> LD50 ?
<6> 50% of people die, after taking 7000 mg of tylenol.
<8> how did the kids die then
<2> most people have no idea that it's bad for teh liver
<0> LD50 = 50% die
<6> Lethal Dosage - 50%.
<1> Tylenol maximum dose is 2 mg reccomended
<1> OH
<0> 2mg?
<6> Free: Uh?
<0> pfff
<4> I know a guy who was hardcore druggie.. you name it, he did it.. one day, he saw the consequences of it fist hand.. and he stopped cold turkey.. damn, he was ****ed up for a month, but he did it.
<2> occ: no, you ca take Tylenol for a week or so at the least
<0> 2 grams maybe
<6> 2 grams is considered the standard maximum
<0> standard tylenol dose is, if i recall, 750mg
<2> I'm saying I would personally not take it for longer than a month, max
<1> And they have died on barely more than 2 g
<0> OR 1 GRAM for "maximum strength"
<6> You can go as high as 4, if that's what it takes, and you cannot switch to something else.
<0> no adult would die at 2 grams
<7> lupine: how did he see the consequences first hand
<1> Espeically if mixed with alcohol its a fatal combination
<0> again, dont risk it
<6> Free: Generally, people who have problems with tylenol at 2-4 grams have other liver disorders.
<2> because how can you know what other problems your liver will encounter through your life
<1> They always set the upper limits below average..
<4> pug: one night, on a binge.. his buddy hallucinating decided to blow his head off with a 12 guage, right infront of everyone
<0> im skeptical that the LD50 of tylenol is 7 grams
<4> pug: got brain matter all over him
<1> Because you wont die unles syou take 50, the next person might die at 30 or the next person 10
<1> or a certain person at 3 grams with a few beets
<0> ive taken close to 7 grams of tylenol in one day
<1> beers
<0> not in one dosage
<9> tylenol affects the kidneys too but it's not well defined what doses and duration of treatment affects the kidneys
<7> lupine: yikes
<1> Your liver hates you
<9> the renal affects of tylenol were unnoted for years
<1> Today yeah Ive read that too
<1> Today hell I never heard about it until maybe 5 or more years ago
<6> Free: LD50 is the average ammount it'll take to kill you. They prescribe up to around LD1.
<1> But as a kid I never had a clue
<6> (4 Grams)
<1> as a teen
<1> or as a young adult
<2> if Tylenol were an NDA applcation next week, it would be denied by the FDA for liver toxicity
<0> unlikely
<2> but it's already apporoved so it's allowed
<9> FreeTrade, one thing pediatricians have traditionally recommended is alternating doses of tylenol and ibuprofen but it's safety had never been studied...we don't know that it's safe
<1> Astro, They say dont take more than 2 grams.
<1> It can damage you without killing you too.
<1> I wont take more than 2 grams in 24 hours and I dont drink
<6> Free: Up to 4 grams is considered allowable under direct supervision of a docter.
<10> is there a correlation between mondays and medications?
<1> Astro, Yeah but your ****ing with people now
<0> timur's gonna part again ;)
<2> Timur, yes the M
<1> we arent talking about doctors supervision
<10> ah, ok
<1> We are talking abotu reccomendations
<2> Medication Monday
<1> and 2 grams in 24 hours is the most
<2> haha
<5> timur compare and contrast
<4> FT: probably as that is the maximum safe for any patient..
<1> Sure under a doctors supervision if he wants to run liver labs every 4 hours
<4> Timur: please take your homo***ual-bestialic fetishes elsewhere
<1> sure he can go up to 10 grams
<5> occ will jon stewart handle the oscars well
<1> god knows why he would
<10> red: compare/contrast minotaurs n meatballs?
<6> Free: It depends entirely on the circumstances. If for some reason, tylenol is the only thing that'll work, they'll push 4 grams.
<6> FT: No...
<0> of course, redfish
<2> I prefer aspirin or ibuprofen
<2> if anything
<0> hes the wittiest man on tv
<6> 10 grams would be LD100. Everyone dies.
<6> :P
<1> If its the only thing which will work for what ?
<10> ok.. one's a mythological beast with the head of a beast.. the other, a delicious addition to pasta.
<4> redfish: Hey, I had you at Emeril's sunday .. you were excellent nut-encrusted!
<1> I cant think of anything that tylenol does which other drugs cant do as well
<1> or combinations of drugs
<6> Free: Whatever its being prescribed for. The largest OTC dose is around 2 grams, though.
<2> "LD100 The Movie: **nobody gets out alive**"
<5> lupine but without my permission so it was rape
<0> redfish is the chicken-lover
<7> LIFE : no one gets out alive
<4> redfish: naw, more like "lunch" :-)
<5> im not filing charges though
<1> Astro, NO if you read the Doctors Desk reference for tylenol they will say maximum reccomended dose is 2 grams
<5> occ chickens have bird flu
<4> timur: you were talking about fondling the bull-balls of a minatour.. please take that to another channel.
<1> now obviously a doctor can play with the PDR a little bit.
<2> redfish liked it so it wasn't a crime
<1> But why would they ?
<10> Minotaurs have axes
<4> redfish: this was wild caught texas redfish
<1> Unless soem kid is allergic to every pain killer but tylenol
<0> wikipedia taught me where the chicken came from
<6> Free: at 4 grams, tylenol will kill 1% of the adult population. Beyond that, a docter cannot prescribe it unless there's actually nothing else.
<6> The PDR is going to give a maximum that you can pretty much garuntee won't kill someone.
<4> asto: the thing is, how do they test that? :-)
<6> Lup: We know how tylenol is metabolized.
<6> And we now at what rate its differnt metabolites damage the liver.
<2> the main danger with things like Tylenol is that 1) Most people have no idea it ha liver toxicity and 2) It's OTC
<5> occ from the egg?
<1> Pardon me Adults can have 4 grams, children cant
<6> And, we can study cases where people took a ****load of it, for one reason or another.
<2> that's a dangerous combo
<4> bah.. i want hard/direct evidence
<6> Free: 4 grams is a TON of tylenol.
<1> 1 mg per 6 hours
<1> No its not, its 500 mg twice 4 times a day
<0> STOPP IT!
<2> the real danger comes from people who take it in normal doses for a year or so
<2> solid
<6> Free: Like I said, 4 grams in 24 hours is ~ LD50.
<6> USM: Yeah. Tylenol breaks down into some pretty nasty stuff in the liver.
<10> meatballs are often made with onions
<6> Er
<6> 4 Grams is LD1.
<2> so I would not rely on it as a regular thing, to have in my medicine cabinet
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