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<0> I am the Central African Republic.
<1> you know, i can guarantee that there were kids that took that test, that are as low income if not lower and less fluent that were able to p***
<2> Comet: you can't force schools to teach; just eliminate public education.
<3> Comet: all it does is make employers ask for something other than your diploma
<4> CB......US schools are doing good job of turning out sheeple
<2> remove public education after 8th grade.
<2> thats all most people need anyways.
<1> Libertine: you can't just brush all of public education with one broad stroke like that
<3> like, from now on they will ask for your test scores instead of your diploma
<2> 9-12 ought to optional and based on merit.
<4> Libertine...that would be interesting...
<3> Loco: sure he can
<0> In the name of all African powers, we declare war on CryArvachus Sigurdsson, the EVIL president of ICELAND, who decided to cut off all aid
<1> there are many factors that go into why students are stupid
<4> its how Japan works
<3> he just did



<5> C-A-R : blah
<1> #1 = parents
<2> Cry: yep
<6> of course they are .. there is no quarrel there. And thats why they are fighting testing so hard. They don't want to be held to any standard that they cannot attain.
<0> CometBaby
<0> weren't you supposed to play Libya
<6> the solution is, and always has been, to lower the standard.
<2> i bet once you eliminate the free ride into 9-12 grade; kids will study harder.
<4> CB...is this Da Vinci code hangover???
<6> reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator
<7> yeah no tests, no failure. And even if you do fail... you still p*** ?
<4> Dumb down that EDU!!!!
<0> the lowest common denominator - we are all africans
<7> that's ****ed. Who should we hire ?
<1> US-Male: its the pussification of america
<1> US-Male: these "score-less" soccer games. ribbons for 10th place, etc
<0> US-Male is perfect for the role of Fiji
<3> Loco: step outside and say that
<7> intellectually it sure is
<4> hell yes...failure will ruin their fragile psyches
<3> Loco: I'll stay here and drink some more coffee
<0> so we have Iran, Gabon, Libya, Togo, Iceland and Fiji.
<4> is the USA
<0> NOW THE SIMULATION CAN BEGIN
<1> OcDoc: it's a legit point. kids are being told "you're ALL winners!" uh...no. there are losers and kids that are losers shouldn't be told they're winners
<4> cutting off aid to Africa is a smart move
<1> b/c when **** gets hard, they're not gonna know how to deal w/ it
<4> it would provoke a sea change
<3> Loco: I agree
<1> coffee sounds good
<5> CometBaby : thank you.
<1> i need a smaller coffee maker
<2> i think.. its time for to make beef wellington.. or nachos...
<8> damn i wanted to see the simulation
<1> it only seems to brew a decent cup if i make 6+ and i can't drink 6+
<4> L0c0,,,when a kid fails at a young age...RUB IT IN THEIR FACE!!
<6> loco .. I am getting my coffee fix as we type :)
<1> CryARvach: hehe exactly!
<3> Loco: you do know about the switch on your coffee maker?
<1> ehhe j/k
<4> that way, they know the price of failure
<1> no, but you teach a kid how to accept not winning
<4> I am serious
<6> loco you don't need a smaller coffemaker you need a BETTER coffeemaker.
<3> Loco: the one that you switch when you're making a smaller number of cups?
<6> you get what you pay for
<2> L0c0: get a single cup coffee maker.
<1> in your daily lives, when does ANYTHING ever end in a tie?
<4> if I brought home an F from school...it earned me a beating
<9> Most coffeemakers **** these days.
<9> Even the expensive ones drip like mad.
<2> parents need to turn their hatred to their own children.. "my tax money paid for you to get an F? You have wasted my money!" ..
<1> either you win or you lose. you succeed or you fail. from school and career, to putting on your pants and not pissing your bed
<3> we need to teach individual responsibility and learning ... and teamwork skills ... no necessarily at the same time
<2> then the beating can happen.
<2> and poof; education!
<4> odd thing happened...I never brought home an F after that
<1> no, but parent do need to get more involved..and money seems to be the one way to do that
<3> praxis: er, that's because it's a drip coffee maker?



<1> why do private school students have higher rates of succession?
<3> praxis: they're SUPPOSED to drip
<2> OcDoc: eh; my solution is just to make 9-12 optional - then the real students can focus on actual learning at the higher level.
<4> lets take the fed out of EDU
<1> b/c when you're paying for it, parents WILL be involved and be sure their kids p***
<4> then make it fire at will in educrat land
<8> Cry: what would the founding fathers say about government run education?
<1> i say, make a students' performance tie into things like property tax breaks
<3> Libertine: my solution is to privatize ALL schools
<4> public audits of the school systems
<1> or even fines
<2> OcDoc: would be neat.
<6> loco ..I have a Cuisinart with the termal carafe .. it will grind the coffee and then perk it. I can make 2 cups or 12
<4> DrFlip.,....they would be aghast
<3> when no school has to take a violent kid then they have to shape up or ship out
<1> your kid misbehaves and beats up another kid, give the parents community service, not the kid
<8> abum: why is that?
<1> hmmm
<3> abum: I have been in government and was good at it
<10> oh ya what job
<3> abum: I was a public school board trustee
<4> education needs t be independent of government....because government run education would mean tha thegovernment can slant the curriculum to benefit them
<6> With the thermal carafe the coffee stays hot for hours w/o sitting on a burner and burning.
<3> abum: I saw public education in detail from inside
<9> OcDoc: No, no. When you pour the coffee they drip...
<1> CB: something liek this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00081RWTI/qid=1148141345/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2374650-2078422?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=284507
<1> ?
<10> did you privatize the district
<11> Clinton Plans to Write Book About Activism and Service, Neither Knopf executives nor Robert Barnett, the lawyer who negotiated both of Mr. Clinton's deals, would comment yesterday on the financial terms of the new book. But one industry veteran with knowledge of the deal estimated that Knopf is paying an advance of around $5 million.
<3> praxis: oh ... that
<11> so much for the idea of "Civil Service
<4> L0c0....better yet...why did the kid beat up the other kid?
<3> praxis: you're pouring it TOO FAST
<1> CryARvach: schools have gone soft b/c they're all afraid of being sued
<4> was he sick of the other kid and his friends taking his lunch money?
<6> loco .. close. Find the one with the thermal carafe .. don't get the gl***. A gl*** carafe sits n the burner and burns the coffee all to hell.
<4> L0c0...time to bring back in L0c0 Parentis
<6> same brand same everything .. except it has a thermal carafe
<1> here's a plan: make it hard for parents to sue schools
<4> hrmmm
<4> that will only work if the Schools are under different pressures
<4> fire at will in edu system :)
<3> the answer to stupid lawsuits is not to make lawsuits harder, but to eliminate the stupid ones
<1> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006F2MI/qid=1148141481/sr=8-6/ref=sr_1_6/002-2374650-2078422?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=284507
<1> ?
<1> recently, we had a boy at school "touch" a little girl.
<4> L0c0 wants the free pink pillow
<4> L0c0,,,,did SWAT come in and arrest him?
<10> l0c0 did they fire you
<1> what happened (and another teacher and myself saw it). he was playing his guitar, talking to his friends. her friends pushed her toward him and as he turned to look at the commotion, his guitar basically rammed into her crotch
<3> they used the tazer
<4> how old are these kids?
<1> he immediately said "sorry sorry sorry" but of course, all the kids laughed, she was embarr***ed, etc
<9> Ah. So the guitar touched The Danger Zone.
<1> so next day, angry parent goes in there saying she's gonna sue the school for not doing ahything about it (even though her daughter complained to nobody)
<6> Loco .. here it is http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006F2MI/qid=1148141644/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-8871660-2075262?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=home-garden&v=glance&n=1055398
<9> Bad guitar. BAD.
<4> Sheeple Factories
<4> l0c0 how old were the kids??
<1> so what happens, they put the kid w/ the guitar in in-school suspension until the end of the year INCLUDING the last day of school
<3> Loco: wait until I tell you what kind of discussion happens in the board after something like that
<1> CryArvach: 7th graders
<6> this coffeemaker is unbelievable
<1> 11-13
<12> L0c0: if anyone is at fault it's the one(s) who pushed her
<4> Pubescent?
<12> the other kid was motionless
<1> but the parent goes in there having only heard HER kids' side
<4> sigh....
<13> whois gray
<1> so when we found out about it, we went to the principal and we told him what we saw
<12> but if kids sued over every dumb little act, it won't help
<13> ahh


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