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<0> the 2.5 is 20,290
<1> I haven't heard of chavez making any anti semite charges tho .. so I could be off base.
<0> dude you math ****s
<2> Katey...Israel can penetrate anything......
<3> $1300 typo
<4> Timur, As I've said, please don't mistake my hesitation as support for Iran
<0> LOL!
<2> Chavez is a generic tinpot mutcase
<3> 426: 1300 is nothing for getting 50mpg
<1> no doubt but I don't know that he is anti semite
<2> if Chavez sells no oil...he makes no money
<4> It's just such an inflamatory story that it makes me raise an eyebrow, that's all
<3> 426: find me one person here who would not pay $1300 to double their fuel efficiency.. i challenge you.
<2> I have not heard nim say anything like that either
<2> Katey...consider the source though...
<3> 426: i'd pay 2500 for that, easy
<5> Rusty: I dunno about the new base engine, but the previous base engine.. *ugh*..
<2> a Terrorist Sock Puppet
<6> well im already at 30mpg
<4> CryArvach, the source being an Israeli paper?
<6> id rather use that sum for other purposes
<6> hehe
<2> no...the place where the law is possibly in process of being enacted
<0> Libertine, 1300 dollars is about what you pay extra at the pump per year
<0> so there is NO savings
<1> undoubtedly there will be more coming on out this story
<7> hi abum
<4> CometBaby, I agree. If it's an accurate story, more will come.
<3> 426: um.. a 12 month ROI? HELL YES!
<2> is watching the newsfeed
<8> Comet -- ya -- am waiting for Monday and talk show groups to really dig into it
<3> 426: you keep a diesel car for years man
<4> CryArvach, that's not the source of the information though
<1> I don't think the Jerusalem Post has a reputation for being unreliable .. but i admit, I am not *real* familiar with it. I know there are some Israeli papers I do not trust, but that is not one of them.
<3> 426: every year you save $1300.. are you nuts? or just bad with money?
<4> CryArvach, the source of the information is a newspaper
<0> Libertine, most cars have an average of 16 gallon tanks
<2> Israeli media is for the most part trustworthy....
<0> you don't fill up everyday do you?
<3> 426: what dont you understand about $1300/yr ?
<4> CryArvach, so is US media...but it's wrong sometimes
<0> you AREN'T saving money
<2> its when LeMonde of Al-Jazeera oir Xinhua is the main source....
<0> you can sit here and argue about it all you want but math is reality
<1> cry . . I disagree .. it is like everything else .. it has its propaganda media sites.
<3> 426: you are buying less gas every year then people getting 25mpg.. duh
<2> CB I said for the most part trustworthy...
<3> 426: it is a real savings, end of story.
<2> earlier I said Israel does its share of fibbing
<6> in the long run, eventually..........but by the time that comes
<2> Le Monde is a commie megaphone....
<2> Al_Jazeera violates Journalistic ethics as needed
<2> Xinhua hid the number of SARS deaths
<9> Lupine: My GTX is dead. :(
<10> 12000 miles a year average, thats 480 gallons at 25mpg or 240 at 50mpg, so at $3/gallon thats $720 saved annually, $1300 in less than 2 years
<1> al jazeera is nothing but a propaganda site
<1> totally unreliable
<2> They play dynamic Journalistic ethics...
<10> (for those who cant do math)
<9> Look, you don't get double the MPG from diesel, so please, let's stop using that asinine ***umption to make our calculations, shall we?
<10> thats Libertine's claim, which went unchallanged
<2> Le Monde would be funny if it were not so pathetic
<3> Lith: nobody only drives 12,000 miles a year.
<3> Lith: i drive about 20k
<0> hehe Lithium my jeep is 2 and a 1/2 its only got 20k
<6> the avg got bumped to 15k as i recall
<10> Libertine: i drive around 25k, but i know people who do only 5. I believe 12k is average
<0> 20,120
<3> Lith: eh fair enough.
<6> `426Hemi: garage queen ? now if it was a zo6 i can understand
<3> Lith: still you have to admit; a savings is still a savings; and diesel engines are known for lasting 500,000 miles without issues.
<0> a jeep???
<0> in a garage???
<1> I am no authoritiy on this .. but I think the main benefit of diesel is that it can go a long time on the engine .. and may be a bit more reliable. But it is noisy, stinky, and can belch out the black smoke.
<0> LOLOL!!!!!!
<6> i was about to say :)
<10> Libertine: oh i agree, its a good investment, especially with the potential of even higher gas
<3> Comet: TDI's are quiet, and do not stink :)
<2> Diesel is of benefit in some instances
<1> also I think the engine is more powerful. Can pull more. It may make sense on a farm.
<11> I drove a mercedes 300 turbo diesel for awhile, not great mileage but dependable. I drove a dasher diesel good mileage but the car ****ed.
<0> vas, nah its just everythings close to me=)
<2> Diesel fuel is less volatile than Gas....
<6> save us the vw propaganda
<3> Comet: also; ive never seen black smoke out of my friend's Jetta..
<9> Lithium-: Actually I challenged it, but he waved it off saying "people on the internet claim they're getting 50mpg!"
<4> ok. bedtime. ttyl
<2> so safer to transort
<1> libertine I don't know what a TDI is .. but diesel engines are NOT quiet.
<1> and they do stink
<10> DiscoTaco: could be
<3> VW and Audi's TDI engines are amazing.
<0> hahha Comet!
<1> G devoiced for lameness
<2> LOL
<3> Comet: TDI = Turbo Diesel it is made by VW/Audi and they do not stink.
<2> CB is reading my mind...
<3> Comet: old diesel engines? sure they did
<10> People have a lot of misconceptions about diesel engines from their impressions on ones based on old technology
<0> Comet i would rather smell good ole farm land than a diesel. not to mention the cost of repairs
<3> but TDI's are new tech
<9> Diesel can be of economic benefit. The more expensive fuel becomes, the more sense diesels make economically, and the more parity between diesels and petrols of similar output, the lower the fuel cost required for diesels to make economic sense.
<1> libertine I don't trust VW to build anything reliable anymore
<2> 426...Diesel is ideal for those who are not next to a jiffymart
<3> Comet: google for TDI :)
<0> personally i can't wait til they come out with e85's
<1> the *bug* was their thing .. they haven't done anything to match it
<0> i mean make it standard
<10> Libertine: I read that VW demonstrated a TDI that went 100kilometers on a liter. Thats like... 200mpg
<9> Diesels pay for themselves much more quickly in Europe where fuel is $6 a gallon. But even at $3 a gallon the economics of diesel are still not quite sensible for your average commuter.
<2> if gas goes to 4 dollars+ a gallon...Hybrid cars will be cost effective
<3> TDI = Turbo Direct Injection :)
<0> Cry actually they it would have to go to 5
<9> Then there's the fact that U.S. diesel is stinky nasty **** and spews all kinds of yucky crap into the air.
<2> Diesel for cars....unless they have more diesel stations...
<3> Cry: hybrids are useless for highway driving tho; thats why we need TDI's instead
<12> hybrid cars wont be effective till oem parts are available at your local autozone.
<10> `426Hemi: are you figuring in the tax breaks you get when buying a hybrid?
<3> heh those breaks will be gone soon.
<0> Lith the tax breaks ended this year
<10> `426Hemi: they *started* this year
<3> http://tdiclub.com/
<0> the tax breaks as far as i know ended in 2006
<12> haveing an automobil thate cna only be worked on by an authorized dealer is just another herd controll scam
<0> this year they end
<6> yet suv sales continue tk skyrocket while hybrid sales took a dump
<3> i think the breaks existed for 04' tax year.
<6> go figure. whats everyone whining about ?
<2> FEMA...not all cars are like that...
<0> not to mention the fact, go and try to BUY a prius
<9> CryArvach: if diesel becomes economically viable, the infrastructure required to supply more diesel is almost no different from that already in existence. All the stations have to do is scrub out a tank that was used for petrol, fill it with diesel, and re-label the pump.
<2> but the days of Joe Shadetree mechanic are near an end
<3> hyrbid ****s guys.. go TDI :)
<0> and every driver i have talked to up here in upstate NY says they freakin **** in the snow
<10> `426Hemi: i know that they started this year and articles were suggesting to wait till year's start to buy one, i dont know if its only a year long thing or not though
<2> DT...the prob is...Diesel away from Freeways is not cost effective vs. gasoline
<6> well isnt it a fwd ?
<9> FEMA: I doubt hybrid cars will ever be effective.
<2> 426...no snow here lol
<2> if I were in the snow belt.....
<12> not Really cryo, all the technology that a guy needs is available to everyone. its actually easier to be a shadetree mechanic now than it ever was. the car will actually tell you where the problem is if you have the diagnostic tool.
<2> I would get an appropriate vehicle
<10> I say we build a "3rd rail" into every road and drive bumper cars
<0> Yes, you can claim up to $2000 bucks on your year-end tax form if you have purchased a fuel hybrid vehicle in 2005.
<2> FEMA...said DIag tools are not cheap
<10> `426Hemi: how much is it for 2006?
<9> CryArvach: a) the vast majority of the population lives near freeways; b) is the difficulty of delivering diesel away from freeways any more or less difficult than delivering conventional fuel?
<3> I heard of a TDI/Hybrid in Europe soon.. that would rock
<3> rumors are they could top 100mpg
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