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Comments:
<0> I didnt realise there were people who thought it was an attack on american culture
<0> interesting thought though...
<1> that's why it won awards
<0> hard to be deffinite about such a thing though..
<2> cowboy idolization is retarded imo
<2> i feel like I can be an american without wanting to fellate the marlboro man
<3> on this day in 1942 Nazis at the Wannsee conference in Berlin decided the "final solution to the Jewish question"
<0> he could of simply made the movie completely oblivious to that side of the issue or he could as some of you have said, made it to have a personal dig at the states.
<0> i cant say which myself..
<0> hard to say with ang l
<0> dont know his views politicaly
<4> erm
<4> what?
<2> free republic has some hilarious displays of cowboy idolization osmetimes. they ahve this "day int he lief of the president" and have him on his ranch holding a chainsaw or some other staged thing. all these freaks (female and male) post these embarr***ingly fawning commetns about what a stud he is and in which picture his sweat stands out the most and makes him look the studliest
<4> whats going on
<4> Pickle participates in gay rodeos
<2> so i think the gay cowboy movie may just hit a little too close to home for someof these guys
<0> what time period is the movie based in? are they olden day cowboys or is it a fairly modern time epriod?
<0> period -even-
<4> its 1960s-present, nemes
<5> www.homorodeo.com I been warning people about cowboys for months
<0> ahh well that does give him some leway i suppose
<0> if there were going to be a gay cowboy
<0> it would deff be in modern times rather than in the old west
<6> Oax Reagan with a chainsaw? that wasn't staged. he would go up the hill and dig ditchs as a relaxation
<2> pilgrim` W
<4> reagan was a fool
<5> I'm as Southern as it comes. Cowboys are fags.
<2> pilgrim` lemme see if i can find some of that ridiculous stuff archived on FR
<7> bah, the movie is plagarism, they stole the movie idea from Eric Cartman, in the Independant-Film-Festival episode
<8> No, it's about the fact that to the culture being depicted as gay in the movie, having the cowboy depicted in that way is probably the ultimate insult.
<4> are you insulted, pickle?
<5> www.homorodeo.com
<5> Real url
<7> real cowboys made beef jerky by putting slabs of beef under their saddle.. not between the buttcheeks of another man
<3> ride him cowboy!
<5> I hate Hollywood too
<1> Lupine, what was the wuote from Cartman?
<7> airbuster: heh.. cowboys eating pudding?
<8> occ: Of course, but I'm hardly surprised... Southpark predicted this a while back.
<1> you may be right
<1> gay cowbiys eating pudding
<1> yeah
<8> occ: And Lee must have watched that episode, too.
<8> Ang
<7> Pickle: yes, that is the irony of it.. this "wonderful work of film".. heeped with praises.. predicted by southpark
<1> Southpark is pupular over in the East, I think
<1> I've already seen Soutpark parodied in Anime
<6> I am not one to curse. I find it offensive. Given that: This film is pure ****
<7> air: heh, hwo about the chim-poke-man episode :-)
<1> hehe. I hope the Japanese see that one
<7> IMHO: it is no less offensive than an antisemetic film that exploited jewish stereotypes
<0> i wonder if there will a gay film badwagon now in holyweird.
<7> air: very smallllllll penis..
<0> probably
<1> yep
<1> so small
<8> occ: Less than at the direct insult, though, I'm offended by Lee's lack of sensitivity about that fact. But it just illustrates the hypocrisy of Hollywood these days.
<1> but there might be Japanese here
<8> Gotta be culturally sensitive, unless you're talking about the western traditions.
<6> so we idealize terrorists (that one about munich, and fagots
<4> wait, wait
<8> You can **** all over those.
<4> i dont think ang lee stepped on any feet by making "brokeback"
<8> occ: Come out here and ask about it.
<4> the cowboy mythology is cl***icly open to interpretation
<4> what, you gonna beat me up?
<8> occ: Not where it happened and continues to exist. It's not a mythology, by the way.
<9> "Chinpoko mon" not "chim-poke-man"
<6> you uys know the connection with Munich at #politics?
<4> of course its a mythology
<6> guys
<8> occ: No, but you will find that many feet were indeed stepped on, and people offended.
<4> then they need to grow some skins
<1> I heard Chinpoku means penis
<4> sheesh
<8> Should you ever ask the people from the culture being depicted. If you care.
<7> pickle: "cultural diversity" is find and dandy, except for those of a more moral standing.. you can **** all over them
<9> chinpoko means "small penis"
<0> i must admit to having a vry stereotypical view of cowboys which is solely due to speghetti westerns and clint eastwood heh
<4> oh, from the culture?
<2> cowboys sure get offended easily. i htought they were tough
<1> haha
<6> Pickle Lupine you guys knwo right?
<4> how many "cowboys" are there these days?
<8> occ: Lots.
<4> its far more an archetype than a reality
<7> pil: one of our members star'ed in it?
<9> What's the percentage of today's cowboys that are gay?
<4> so lets not kid ourselves
<8> occ: And they are considered part of the culture of the western plains, to this day.
<7> e-hernick: should we make a movie having "blackees" eating watermelon and chitlins?
<9> I dare guess that the percentage of the cowboy population that is gay, is higher than the gayness percentage in the general population.
<1> I saw a gay cowboy on American Idol the other day
<4> fair enough, pickle
<4> but so what?
<8> occ: To that same culture, depicting them as homo***uals is considered a grave insult, due to cultural perceptions regarding homo***uality.
<9> a grave insult
<9> ahah
<1> his family thought he wasn't good for the cowboy life, so they tossed him on Idol
<4> ehh, again
<9> what movie doesn't contain grave insults to some segment of the population
<4> what kind of true cowboy cant take something like that?
<9> Also, should grave insults be banned?
<8> occ: But since that culture clashe's with Hollywood's, it's okay to dump on 'em. Hence, Hollywood are hypocrites.
<1> we need to make a amovie about gay Samurai
<1> having *** with gay ninja
<9> Airbuster: you know that samurai used to have gay *** with boys, right?
<8> occ: On the other hand, to depict Palestinian culture in a light they would find insulting is just unthinkable.
<1> having a threesome with some gay Tibetan monks
<7> let's make a movie about a fat slop director, who *********es while school children die.. oh wait.. we'ld get sued by michael moore
<8> Or many other cultures.
<2> gay vikings
<9> Airbuster: this is part of the samurai culture - some sort of greek-like pederasty
<3> yeah, there was a lot of gayness going on in medieval japan, the great mirror of male love etc
<1> e-Hern, I'm not an expert on the samurai
<4> ill depict palestinians as homo***uals
<3> but first we need some good lesbian movies
<2> are amazon warriors usually depicted as lesbians? i don't know
<4> i believe they all are
<4> every single one
<0> Airbuster, actually if you made a serious film about gay samuri japan would probably go bonkers and be seriously insulted, or china whichever they originated from.
<0> so you have a point.
<7> However, I bet there were many crud scenes that were cut, simply to make his rating
<8> occ: We take it fine, and constantly. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to be running the theatre showing this film around here.
<1> I know as much about the Samurai as Ang Lee does about Cowboys. Very little
<4> "we"?
<4> what, you're a cowboy?
<4> no you arent.
<4> so quit putting on airs
<9> Oax: the mythical amazon warrior isn't a lesbian.. she captures the strongest enemy male, and rapes them, killing him off once she's pregnant, and killing off her male children
<7> "i want to be a cowboy.... and occ can be my cow girl..."
<8> occ: There is a tendency in the city to dump manure on property at times like this, here.
<4> your a canadian socialist ;)
<8> occ: "We" meaning the people living out in the western prairies.
<8> occ: And the culture of said.
<2> e-Hernick sure, the stereotype. howabout tkaing ang lee's lead, breaking the stereotype, and making a lesbian amazon film
<9> Airbuster: I dare say that Ang Lee has taken at least a couple of days to study cowboys, and that he knows more about gay cowboys than you know about samurai
<0> been done to death Oax heh
<8> occ: Of which the cowboy is an integral part.
<4> ang lee's never made a great film
<4> several decent ones
<4> overrated.
<2> prisoners are regularly edpicted as "gay", or more like sodomizing maniacs. howabout some straight prisoner flicks?
<9> Oax: is it possible that while in prison, normally straight prisoners would engage in gay *** because they just can't get any otherwise?
<2> howabout a war movie that follows the trials and tragedies of a gay platoon
<0> Oax, with male prisoners though that whole gay thing isn't so much actually being gay as simply ***ual predation via lack of the opposite ***.
<0> and its usually the lifers
<7> e-her: that would make them bi-***uals then
<2> e-Hernick howabout turning that around and showing some mincing fairies that go to prison and srtaighten out into good family men?
<4> war movies: BORING
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