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<0> by hard working people
<1> The war on drugs is over. The drugs won.
<2> My child tells me he is gay and he will be placed in homeschool until he is 18 and then told to never return.
<0> lmao
<3> Astrodog, depends if its a decision or not =)
<4> astro .. I only got bits and pieces. Apparently while he was at it he made a bunch of confessions.
<0> Armon I like that thats a good one
<3> CometBaby, How old is the kid?
<5> Comet: That's a kid who's pissed at his folks. :\
<6> It's usually the person you least expect are the biggest smokers, mayors, High School Teachers, DEA helicopter pilots
<7> Brunn.. if you do that to your kid, you don't love them
<6> ;)
<5> Herz: You know what I mean.
<2> JanetB, exactly
<4> "Dad you know all those nights you thought I was up late doing my homework? I would sneak out of the house about midnight and go dancing at the Run" ... apparently the Run is a gay dance spot
<2> I have no love for a male child of mine that would be a homo.
<4> he has been seduced by and seducing older men
<4> he has a boyfriend
<5> Comet: Yeah. That's more a kid pissed at his dad, than anything else. :\
<7> Brunn.. you have no love for them in any sense gay or not
<4> Astro he told me he wanted to throw him out of the house.
<4> I told him .. no.
<2> JanetB, dream on.
<3> CometBaby, They need to go to therapy
<4> right now you pull him close
<3> or Dr. Phil or something
<7> brunn... thats a fact
<5> CB: I'm with Herz on this one. Therapy.
<5> Not Dr. Phil though, he's nuts. :P
<7> just cause a kid is gay.. does not mean you stop loving them.
<2> JanetB, maybe in your world
<4> I think some of it is a fad. Right now the kids in HS think it is cool to have bi***ual relationships. And there is peer pressure to be cool like everyone else
<2> JanetB, right, not only would i stop loving it, I'd start hating it
<4> Also he may be doing it for attention
<7> if you only love them when they are what you want them to be, thats not love
<3> JanetB, you never stop loving your children, but if they make a dangerous choice like being a homo***ual, then.. ehh
<4> so I told him to pull the kid close to him, do things with him. Stick to him like flypaper.
<5> Comet: This is really a pissed kid, for some reason. Otherwise, it wouldn't even come up. :\
<7> Herzen... you do not dis-own them for any reason... again thats not love
<5> Janet: Wow. I'm actually pretty impressed with your comments so far, on this subject.
<5> heh
<3> Right, I agree
<3> You try to work with them
<7> hahah Astrodog
<4> Astro .. his dad also had a great deal of fear mixed into the range of emotions. He said he is scared to death his son will get HIV.
<8> And he should be
<4> especially if he is really making the gay scene .. bars .. dance rooms .. older men.
<5> Comet: If it comes up again..... try to get the dad to take the kid, and him, to therapy.
<4> its like playing russian roulette
<6> well, according to Oprah, all men are pedo's, Wife beaters, cheaters, pussies or gay...so maybe the only way to be accepted in scoiety today and be a "good person" is to be gay
<7> he shoudl be afraid any of his kids will get HIV these days
<3> CometBaby, Its a dangerous choice
<4> janet absolutely .. but I think there is a greater risk in the gay community at large
<2> Men are effeminate in their reactions to nonsense these days. Real simple. You announce you are gay in my house being my son, you better leave, or I will deal with you.
<9> Jan. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Google Inc., the most-used Internet search engine, was sued by the Justice Department after it refused to turn over information that may help the government monitor ***ually explicit material on the Web.
<7> CometBaby.. if you are out messing with a ton of people, yeah... but then again thats in all of society these days :(
<9> can we only hope that google gets shut down
<4> and they have come up with a new status symbol of obtaining AIDS .. having group *** with some who are known to have it is something new that his happening.
<3> td-, i like google
<7> are kids today crazy!
<4> yes
<10> nah
<5> Comet: The kid is a bit young to ah... declare a major. Drag em both by their ears to a good local therapist.
<5> Heh.
<4> doing that is stupidity
<2> Real simple. My son announces he is gay and he will not come in contact with other males until he is 18.
<10> It all started with wackjob hippie babyboomers.
<3> Paul Engemann - Push It To The Limit
<3> gg
<4> astro I agree.
<2> Homeschooling and grounding until he is 18 and then told to leave and never return.
<3> CometBaby, How old is the son?
<7> Brunn.. you are the type of parent a kid would not tell
<5> If the kid is actually gay, he needs to stop the bizzare risky behavior.
<7> out of fear
<2> JanetB, damn right
<4> herzen I'm not certain .. probably about 17 ?
<3> Eh
<5> And the fact that he's doing that stuff, AND telling his dad, indicates there's something else going on.
<7> Brunn.. thats a shame, don't have kids
<3> CometBaby, He'll feel like such an ***hole when he gets out of adolesence and smartens up
<4> Janet how old was your son when he came out?
<10> Janet: what would you have done, had your son or daughter announced they were gay?
<5> Janet: You know, when he does, he'll have a herd of gay ones. When he tries to kick em out, they'll mob him.
<10> oi. nm
<7> comet I knew when he was 15.. he told me at 18
<5> Yank: Heh.
<3> I regard Homo***uality as a choice
<5> Herz: Then you're an idiot. *shrug*
<3> Do you have evidence which proves to the contrary?
<10> I "hear" they claim it's genetic.
<7> Herzen, I used to.. but my son was raised in a consertive catholic home hahha
<5> Tons, Herz.
<3> Show me
<7> 2 parent home.. loving home.. he didn't "choose" it
<5> Look at any peer reviewed journal. Nature has some good stuff, so does NEJM, and the NIH thing.
<2> JanetB, no wonder he ended up gay
<5> Herz: You still in school at all?
<2> Premissive, mother-dominated parenting is a big problem.
<3> Astrodog, I'm Auditing a Political Analysis course
<7> Brunn.. I doubt that hen
<3> Astrodog, I'm instructing though
<3> So not formally
<7> Brunn.. who said I was permissive?
<5> Herz: Ah. Good enough to get access to the journal subscriptions?
<3> Yeah
<5> Herz: Nature had a good one on it, about 6 months ago.
<2> JanetB, did you permit homo***ual behavior to continue unpunished?
<3> Astrodog, I'll take a look
<5> They corrolated a specific gene in mothers, with homo***ual sons.
<10> It's weird seeing bigger, masculine gay men.
<3> Astrodog, For you, read East Asian Strategic Review 2004 and 2005
<5> Herz: Rgr.
<3> and Strategic Survey 2003-2004 and 2004-2005
<3> Specf Ch4 in EASR is good
<1> Well, over-permissive parenting and over-authoritarian parenting are equal problems. Kids aren't machines, they need a bit of both.
<7> Brunn.... for one my kids were not allowed to date untill they were 16 for another my son did not tell me till he was 18...
<2> Good job.
<1> They need the space to make mistakes, and they need the supervision to not make mistakes that they can't recover and learn from.
<1> JanetB: WHAT?!?
<7> not much you can do about it then, but sure as heck did not throw him out.. he is my son.. and always will be
<1> Not allowed to date until they were 16?!?
<1> That's ****in' fascist, man! >:|
<7> Armon.. yeah
<5> lol
<3> Thats absolutely reasonable
<10> fascist?
<1> Kids should start dating the second they feel like starting dating! Not a second sooner or later.
<3> Children should not be allowed to have ***, legally, until 17 atleast
<10> haha
<5> Armon: Parents get to be fascists with their kids.
<2> I don't see what the problem is then. I'd tell him just like any other homo***ual. I'd tell it to leave my property and never return.
<1> Herzen: 14 the latest.
<3> Armon, You're a real scumbag.
<7> 14 they is to young
<1> No, it, is, not.
<10> armon: you only get to make that choice with your kids.
<3> Teen *** is something to be rallied against, not encouraged
<1> Yankee27: It's 14 in Iceland.
<7> Brunn.... not going to happen.. I adore my son.. he is a great person and a wonderful man....
<1> Can't see the problem here.
<10> this aint iceland, bub.
<7> this is his home!
<2> "man" you mean
<1> We've already invented the condom!
<1> What on Earth is supposed to be so damn dangerous about ***?
<10> armon: std's?
<3> Whats dangerous about promiscuity?
<1> Condom! Problem fixed! Tada!
<10> teen pregnancy?
<7> armon... cause *** is for marriage... and you teach them that
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