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<0> Guiliani might try governor before president.
<0> Hes not electable.
<1> FT...exactly
<0> despite recent polls, most people dont know guliani.
<0> But they do know mcCain.
<1> thats his only plus...
<1> he could prob win NY for GOP
<2> rush limbaugh wont run
<0> McCain to some democrats is like Evan Bayh is to me.
<1> hahaha
<3> Our Mi5 head said that some Civil Liberties will have to be ignored in these turbelent times (after the London Bombings)
<4> falling sounds like a troll
<5> Amendment XXII ( 1951 ) Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
<3> So we've got a Bush too :)
<1> JEB versus Hillary....
<2> takes one to know one tsunade
<0> Look, Guiliani was a tough on crime conservative, hes a big city new York republican.
<3> Jeb lmao
<1> make shoice...rope around neck...pull lever
<3> thats a terrible name
<0> When was the last republican president from Ny ?
<1> its an acronym
<0> Teddy Rossevelt I believe.
<5> Greenie: well, england is far worse off to begin with, especially given the virtual lack to defend oneself.
<1> Roosevelt?
<0> aND HE LIVEd in wyoming too I think.
<1> Teddy
<3> Lupine: You from England?
<5> greenie: and the new visual recognition system about to "go live" is such an afront on civil liberties, that not even old Adolf could have dreamed off
<1> Lupine...pshawww..they are allowed swords and longbows :P
<0> I dont meant o be offensive Cry but Americans dont know guiliani but they know McCain.
<5> greenie: nope, thou my wife is british [ or was, now a US citizen ]
<3> Hmm
<1> FT..I agree with you that Giuliani stands not a chance..
<6> I think ppl are more familiar with Giuliani's name, but he won't be nominated
<2> Rice vs. Clinton?
<1> but I will not vote for McCain..IMO he can not be trusted..
<5> Cry: naw, cant' carry swords around, not even a small kitchen paring knife :-)
<3> The right to defend one's self is quite clearly implanted, just not with a shotgun as highlighted in a recent court case
<0> Guiliani is still seen as a hero simply and solely because of his perfomance on 911 and the movie made on him.
<1> I would vote for Condy in a flat fell second
<3> Especially if you don't have a gun license
<1> Condy Rice would slaughter Hillary
<5> Green: every so often, there is a case publicized where a home owner is charged for injuring a burglary inside of his own home.
<0> When he gets in front of the spotlight as a womanizer and a divorcee and a liberal fiscally and very liberal socially (As opposed to moderate) hes out.
<2> Rice is better lookn too
<2> i like her personality
<1> I agree FT
<4> what personality
<1> but when they See McCain Feingold ...and McCain-Kennedy....
<3> yeah Lupine, sadly the occasional case is jumped on by the tabloid press which is attricous here not sure about America
<0> I would like to see a McCain/Rice ticket, I feel 100% confident it would win with no problem at all by probably a 10% margin which in this divided age would be remarkable.
<1> Greenie...we have these seditious things you do not have...enumerated rights...
<6> McCain's been too big a part of too many leftwing efforts
<1> even MA would be freer than England
<6> like McCain-Feingold legislation
<3> Worst of all, there doesn't seem to be any sort of civil liberty defense organisation thats atall big here
<0> I think Republican conservatives are going to have to warm to McCain, All of us even liberal republicans like me have issues with McCain.
<3> What is an enumerated right?
<1> US-Male...BINGO!!!!
<2> now that we have white noise we can just let Regean run again
<3> is that a birth right?
<5> Greenie: in many ways, English society seems to have lost the real struggle in WWII: basic human freedom
<0> But the big picture is more important.
<1> its enumerated in our Constitution,....
<0> As I said, I am not sure its wise after say 2016 to have the presidency
<3> yeah Lupine, I am thinking of starting some protests, organising some groups
<5> Green: right.. english society seems to blindly lead sheep lately. I really can not understand/comprehend it
<1> you know..the one that your house of Lords stated that 'it reeked of fell sedition" ?
<3> CryHavoc: I would like that alot
<1> Lupine..it is easy to understand...
<7> McCain is 75 isn't he?
<3> Rights guaranteed by a constituion
<0> Problems are going to befall the nation around 2016 such as social security which is likely to hurt the part in power unless that party can do something about it.
<1> in Europe per se..you have two groups of people...
<1> The Gentry .,..and the commoners...
<0> Republicans can say well George Bush warned you... But I dont think that will work.
<8> FreeTrade if mccain wasn't such a phony I could warm to him. But he loves the one he's with. When he is with dems he is a dem .. when he is with Reps he is a Rep .. etc. He is like clinton .. he always has his finger in the air.
<1> Common law is what the Gentry decided what the commons should have in regards to rights...
<9> I think SS should be fixed now. raise retirement age a year or two
<3> Lupine, it frankly sickens me and it needs to stop
<1> but worry not..the barons and lords can be trusted :P
<0> And the state of the war on terror in 2008 12 and 16 is very relevant.
<3> heh CryHavoc
<3> We do need a revoloution of sorts
<3> Unfortunatly, it seems all the good men that care about that sort of thing are gone in Britain
<1> the **** they can be!!
<2> naww just someone to wrap up the war
<2> or is it that big of a can of worms?
<1> in the USA, our rights are defined by a Constitution...not by what some blue-blood says we should have...
<10> wow, that's truly profound!
<1> creating a chasm of difference
<8> I am not dead set against mccain .. I just don't trust him.
<3> CryHavoc: What confuses me is how there can be ammendments to your Constituion
<1> CB...thank you :)
<5> cry: I would say teh constitution recognizes rights.. but those rights predate the govn't, and in fact, are basic human rights of any free society.
<3> Why can't you simply amend the first part
<0> The problem is the democrats starting with rossevelt have put us on a collision course with the inevitable and minus a miracle of some sort like tremendous growth in GDP over the next 12 years we are going to have an inevitable meeting with destiny and the entitlements are going to be impossible to pay for the seniors and we may see tents in DC like we did during the "Hooveville's"
<7> I don't like or trust McCain.
<1> The Constitution was created as a living. dynamic document...so that it could grow with the country
<3> Can't think of the name
<11> make the preamble longer
<2> i say we EVP Lincoln and ask him what to do
<1> to do that, A Constitutional Convention would have to be called
<0> Hoovervilles they were called
<9> I think Mccains too old. the job of POTUS requires about 18 hours a day of high stress work, 7 days a week
<3> What does that entail?
<0> around the time of the depression tents started going up in NY and DC and they called them hoover villes.
<1> a proposal....then ratification would be necessary by 2/3s or 3/4s of the states
<1> yes they did
<0> Not that hoover caused it but our species has a habit of ignorantly accusing the person in power and never looking at they etiology of the problem.
<12> FreeTrade yea that is true
<9> Even when ppl laugh at Bush for being at his ranch too much, he's always working, always surrounded by ppl, none of it is relaxation
<1> Hoover got the blame for the over feeding at the trough
<12> FreeTrade and they called newspaper hoover blankets
<1> neither party gave any thought to shoring up banks
<0> Bud, right, thats another easy ignorant thing to exploit.
<1> troubles are Hoovering over us
<12> FreeTrade and they called newspaper hoover blankets
<3> I wouldn't mind if I was an American Citizen if Bush spent time at his ranch
<12> ...
<2> Powell could run
<5> hell, even Clinton couldn't relax while getting a monica.. he had to be on the phone with Putin while getting a blowjob
<3> Aslong as the country was doing ok
<0> Im not sure it wouldnt be a bad idea to require people to p*** a basic civics and government course to vote..
<1> Greenie1...why should it matter
<2> dont think hes in the mood tho
<3> Exact;y
<12> Lupine check this out
<0> It need not be hard.
<12> Lupine you thier http://myspace-351.vo.llnwd.net/00315/15/39/315839351_l.jpg
<12> tell me what you think
<1> we have lower taxes than you do.....
<1> and more opportunity
<9> Monica ran the free world for a good 15 minutes
<0> But people would have some degree of understanding of history and politics instead of voting based on NAACP advertisements.
<1> FT..most do not want to read up on issues.....
<5> gop: needs a magazine inserted
<1> new reality tv show is better
<12> Lupine oh it got no mag
<2> Fear both ways
<0> Cry right because its eaiser to judge **** based on demogoguery by partisans.
<3> CryHavoc: you don't like the UK very much do you?
<12> I know you would apricate that
<2> i try not to entice me with FEAR
<1> some here do not firsthand remember Hillary care...
<1> Greenie1...on the contrary...
<5> FT: if Powell/Rice ran.. the NAACP would call them white honkeys or something similar
<1> the UK is the only part of Western Europe that will back us...
<0> GOP has plenty of problems, but the Democratic Party except a few poor ****ers because they dont get the respect in their party they deserve, they arent even in the same book much less on the same page.
<5> gopp: oh, not talking about teh firearm? well, very nice panelling
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