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<0> can we pray that this journalist is returned safely and is recieving just as good treatment as the insurgents/suspected terrorists get in american custody
<1> vehicle internal power
<1> luanhc sequencer start
<1> securing center LO2
<1> luanch enabled
<2> yes you are allowed to pray td-
<1> SCSR armed
<0> how about the whole channel
<1> LC 3rst stange CSR armed
<2> this is not a religious channel
<1> reduce CCS for launch
<2> feel free to use #praye rtho
<0> lets hope for her then
<1> Houston, this is launch control, we are go for launch
<1> -55
<1> 3rd stage is go!!!!
<0> Houston, she's gonna blow!
<3> how much of our ****ing money are they wasting this time?
<4> w00t!
<0> Houston, Spy Sattelite 3-0delta Launched.. oops i mean Mission to Pluto a Success!
<4> speaking of sattelites, Russia has almost 1400 sats... and only 96 of them still work
<3> ... particularly distasteful when there aren't any Soviets to race against, and when private industry is advancing at a much faster pace
<5> Apple is taking a hit, its way overpriced.
<2> less than what we waste on otu selves
<4> the US has like 930 sats, and 350 still work
<2> er oursleves
<6> y r we spending billions for dollars on space thing?
<3> FreeTrade: heh, about time. - though I really should have bought Apple before the iPod...
<0> its a new spy sat.
<0> who needs to know anything more about pluto
<0> its a non-issue
<3> I'd expect their new Intel-based iMacs to boost a bit though
<4> oakie so we can learn to type words like "why" and "are" out completely
<3> in space, no one can see you type
<4> td- nah, take a look at the specs and the images, a spy sat wuld be much different
<6> kobushi all that money just from that?
<0> y r u bustin his ballz
<3> oakie: at any rate, satellites, man.
<3> intercontinental communications, as well as other things, depend on it.
<6> to pluto?
<6> who lives there?
<4> oakie because exploration and information provide long-term financial return.
<5> 80.33 for apple, I owned it at something like $17 once.
<6> i dont see any return for billions of years
<3> ... yeah, **** this ****. astronomical research, essentially. making theoretical astrophysics a bit less theoretical
<5> A lesson that is often repeated, Better to hold than sell most the time
<0> lets hope google stock crashes
<6> and we be gone **** long ago
<5> Though it is overprices.
<0> its way overvalued
<5> I would sell it now while its high.
<4> oakie we don't live on the moon yet either, does that mean there was no gain from the apollo missions?
<6> no gain at all
<1> Wow.. VERY good view of the launch from my new house :-)
<3> KoBushi: upsetting the USSR's pride. and giving the US something to oogle over.
<4> tweek more than that
<3> Lup|ne: new house? sweet
<4> tweek thre is real tangable gain from the apollo programs
<5> Google, either has a secret weapon *OR* someday they are going to take a 50% loss overnight from 470 or whatever to 235
<3> KoBushi: anything that wasn't a byproduct?
<0> we got velcro
<4> tweek byproducts count :)
<0> cuz of the space mission
<5> I think they have a secret buisness plan which is revolutionary.
<3> KoBushi: ... no, no they don't :)
<5> Whether they can pull it off or not I dont know.
<4> tweek yes, yes they do
<0> thousands of kids dont need to learn how to tie their shoes until a later age now
<4> the byproduts wouldn't have hapened w/o the missions
<3> a private industry could have invented **** without going to the ****ing moon :)
<0> kobushi: prove it
<4> tweek "could have" "maybe"
<3> necessity...
<3> if we don't need it *here*, why have it?
<5> They have movied a lot of operations close the highest electrical output area in the USA where there is lots of water and a Huge Fiber Optic Trunk.
<4> we certainly wouldn't have GPS w/o the Apollo and space shuttle programs
<6> someone in nasa are making all the money
<0> prove it
<2> i think the greates improvements happen when goverment asks industry to do somethign impossible
<6> thats what its all about
<5> The Dalles Oregon they are dumping millions of dollars, they have built 250 new homes in an area which has been rather depressed economically.
<5> I know that area well
<4> oakie who at NASA is getting all of the money then? :)
<3> Lup|ne: 'have babies'? even one and they're cut?
<1> tweek: of course, i believe norplant should be required for ***istance
<2> tweek if they are not married/working .. yes
<3> though I do agree that public ***istance in general is distasteful.
<3> t0tn4gvn: so, lemme get this straight. marriage *bolsters* personal finance? :)
<5> One theory is google may try to build a new internet of sorts, or maybe it will be an american internet only, I really dont know, I would expect extremely high bandwidth if they did so.
<1> yes/no. "***istance" that rewards negative social behavior is bad
<6> all the rocket scientists that does nothing but sit around eating donuts and playing remote control toys
<6> and of cuz many others pple inside
<2> Goverment ***istance = bad
<5> 3 or 4 times the fastest of *the* Internet.
<3> Lup|ne: any type of *public* ***istance, IMO, ****s.
<2> local private ***istanc e= good
<4> tweek accoridng to a recent study; an indaviduals ***ets are, on average, double for married than for non-married people
<5> Like Internet 2 sort of maybe better
<5> but its all speculation
<3> I don't like being *forced* to cover the bottom-feeders.
<1> tweek: no, in a large enough society, there will be those who have something catastrophic happen in their life, with no real responsibility on their part
<3> though I'd gladly give to private charities that I know and trust.
<4> society wll always have to shoulder the burden of the retarded, and disabled
<4> at least, it should
<3> Lup|ne: and? 'tough ****, deal with it' would be my only response to any program that would ***ist them at a federal or state level.
<6> kobushi u must be on welfare then
<7> Kob: ue[
<5> Kobushi, No question about it, And the disabled.. And I felt that way before I was disabled, but i still consider myself economically viable so I dont ask for nor do I recieve any government aid.
<3> KoBushi: I disagree.
<5> Besides I am only partially disabled.
<1> Kobushi: i think in a civilized and advanced enough society gains more than they loses with ***istance to the real needy
<3> how so?
<6> freetrade what happened to u?
<4> And to some degree, social programs benefit those who pay in, by helping to control the have-nots from attacking the haves
<3> (never knew.)
<7> Kob: right. It's called society, but since irc seems selective for the antisocial (not to speak of sociopathic..)
<1> freetrade is disabled, he has to live in liberal-kookoo-land
<5> I had a traumatic injury to my spinal chord.
<3> society != gov't.
<3> that's my distinction. society should remain controlled and maintained by itself.
<1> Main engine cut off...
<1> society controls and maintains itself thru govn't
<3> but then it could be argued that the gov't is simply an extension of society, established by and for itself...
<5> No the sign of an advanced society is how they take care of their TRULY disabled, which doesnt include me, it means people who cant work because of a mental or physical reason such as quadraplegia.
<4> Lup|ne I agree... but the problem we have in the US, and in other nations as well... is that the help becomes too much.. to the point that those who shoul recieve interim help, can never (or rarely) leave the government monetary saftey net
<5> Some Quads can work, but they should get help
<4> For example, project housing is a horrible trap
<3> yeah, what Lup|ne said. but **** no. that's not right. if it were, people would *trust* the people that represent them.
<3> most polls show that isn't the case.
<1> kob: I disagree that they can not leave.. rather, the system is designed to keep them on the dole.. and they people want to stay on it
<5> The problem is the free loaders which by definition are people scamming the system which is about 90%
<7> Kob: that's why they knock down the apt-like tenements in favor of single family homes - which work a lot better
<1> tweek: people get the govn't they deserve
<4> tweek society maintains itself thru government BECAUSE people don't trust thier representatives
<3> Lup|ne: heh...
<5> So a better question is how to you discover and eliminate the Scam Artists.
<5> Abusive Domain or User
<7> which people
<4> Lup|ne Then we agree... I just mean that financially, it is a very difficault hurdle for them to leave.
<1> people always bitch about "special interest groups".. are they directing how the people vote in teh voting booth?
<3> KoBushi: ... reps gain trust *by* pushing forth legislation that maintains society...
<3> KoBushi: interesting thought.
<5> We cant spend billions in east Asia and deny one person their basic needs.
<5> Deny one american
<5> Americans should all work.
<7> bbl
<3> Lup|ne: lobbyists will almost certainly petition whoever is on the ballot.
<5> Those who truely can not should be put to maximum ability of work which may be very little or none, they should get aid.
<1> sure.. but simply vote for someone who refuses to take lobbyist money
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