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<0> which is ten times worse
<1> gloriae: ok gi jane joan of hark, err i mean PROVE IT.
<0> do we see a pattern yet?
<0> pot -> cocaine -> crack -> crank -> meth
<2> I wouldn't think they are about religious freebom so much as civil liberties, but i think the point he was trying to make was that those laws are rooted in one particular religion's values
<2> *freedom
<0> more enforcement puts worse drugs on the street
<0> it's simple
<3> no, in quite a few religions' values
<4> I'm not sure where exactly Christianity bans polygamy.
<5> religious practices are still subject to the secular law
<5> as they should be
<0> Instead of making new laws, let's repeal some
<1> gloriae: in quite a few religions values, KILLING is a SIN,,,,yet ye nobel xtian followers still do so
<0> too many damn laws
<2> I understand that, what i'm saying is that limitations placed on civil liberties that are motivated by religious views should not be the laws of the land
<6> DEA Deputy Administrator Michele Leonhart today announced the successful culmination of Operation Brain Drain, a 17-month joint OCDETF investigation which identified and dismantled the most significant source of ephedrine from Canada to the United States. Operation Brain Drain targeted Canadian bulk ephedrine distributors and their U.S. ***ociates, as well as U.S.-based Mexican methamphetamine manufacturers and distributors. DEA an
<3> supporting polygamy is probably his indirect way of saying he's not getting enough ;>
<5> and, they aren't. :)
<5> glo: lol
<0> DEA calls cocaine a narcotic Linus-
<3> there are so many old, old, old lines overexercised here
<3> yawn
<0> They're not exactly a creditable agency
<0> or credibile
<2> I'm ont even married, i wouldn't have a need for polygamy
<6> Bruneaus multiple purchases of large amounts of ephedrine from Pumpuii, a Canadian company, were for methamphetamine manufacturing in the United States and Canada.
<6> ephedrine is used to make meth
<0> Bokavitch: I say anyone that takes wives deserves what they get
<0> Linus-: NOPE
<5> Linus: a big issue for you?
<3> Bokavitch: not you; jsable
<4> If polygamy is legal, it should go both ways. And women should be able to have multiple husbands.
<2> my bad
<0> It's racemic dextroamphetamine
<2> lol i agree, i mean i could never handle being a polygamist
<2> yeah that's fine with me
<2> women can have multiple husbands
<1> one would be too many for me i'm sure, still i think to prohibit mutual situations beyond then to me there is religious persecution
<0> there are THOUSANDS of variant amphetamines
<2> doesn't affect me at all so i won't object to them getting married that way
<6> i just cant stand it when someone pretends to know everything when it flies in face of facts
<0> calling them all meth is wrong
<5> Linus: who/what?
<6> n/m
<0> "we'll solve this if we just control cold medicine"
<4> well, it's good there's someone here to point out the fine distinctions between meth and speed.
<0> it's total bull****
<6> watch frontline
<5> yeah, a crucial issue
<5> ;)
<0> the DEA is lying again. imagine that.
<2> frontline rules
<7> yea now when i went to get my cold medicine.. I was treated lke a criminal.. and was refused service for my cold.....
<0> ke6i: you learn this stuff in organic chem I
<0> any jr college chemist can tell you
<1> gloriae: hey i still have an ai dispute with you. ie: you have never said "i'm not ai" or "i'm not a robot" so any arguement from you i take with a robotic grain of salt
<2> I can vouch for jhicks statement, i learned that **** back in honors and AP chem in high school
<0> it's hyperbole from the DEA
<6> jhick, regardless of what you call it technically, the street drug known as meth is derived from ephedrine, along with other precursors of course
<0> all about their funding
<0> and cutting off cold medicine won't do **** to stop it
<0> in fact it will make it MUCH WORSE
<4> That Sudafed doesn't do anything anyway.
<3> [05:14] <1> Timur: no i'm a robot remember, so i've a prime directive, to me the loss of 100,000 american or whomever is the same.
<0> since you'll start seeing REAL METH
<4> When I've had colds, I tried taking it, and it does zero for me.
<3> you have nothing with me but your imagination
<5> glo: yeah, hadda use /ignore
<0> advil cold medicine
<3> and that isn't me
<7> nope it just treats us law abiding people like criminals.. and makes us suffer with our cold.. while the meth dealers find another way to make the ****....
<2> chicken noodle soup
<0> ibuprofen
<0> chicken noodle soup is good
<7> pffft
<4> Chicken soup and Flintstone's Vitamins.
<2> lol
<0> ibuprofen is hard on the GI
<5> exactly
<1> Linus: yes you may be correct only a few corporations fabricate the precursure to crystalmeth, without substance its existance would be restricted to a chemistry lab odity
<2> i remember those, i used to take 'em when i was a kid
<3> too much mindless bitching in here
<5> sometimes the old ways are the best ways
<7> Sudafed Cold and Alergy.. kicks ***.. clears my nose so I can breathe... work and not lose a day.. well not no ****ing more
<0> but its' damn good pain medication if you don't bleed to death
<0> Ife: I know a lotta people that agree, it doesn't work so well for me
<0> physiologies vary...
<7> now I have to lose a week or two of work a year at least cause of this cold medicine bull****....
<2> it used to work alright for me then i think i developed a tolerance for it and now it's not so great
<0> It IS total bull****, that's my only point
<0> won't do a thing
<0> more DEA bull****
<7> jhicks, it's the only stuff that works on colds for me.... nothing else works
<0> years and years of DEA bull****
<0> and it keeeps getting worse and worse
<0> the definition of insanity
<2> DEA and ATF piss me off
<0> Einstein quote I think
<7> just read the ewnspaper articles.. when was the last time you actually saw an acurate article?
<0> hah
<0> Charley Reese doesn't syndicate for the papers anymore
<7> hell I've seen DAs through out bull**** facts just to try and win cases
<0> But Mona Charen does!
<0> progress...
<2> I mean this sounds kind of dumb, but i know when i was growing up that kids could get their hands on marijuana, mushrooms, heroine, cocaine etc. easier than they could get alcohol, they did that stuff cuz it was easy to come by, but if they were just free to drink they probably would have done that instead of using so many drugs
<0> kids do stupid ****
<7> heh
<6> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/faqs/#19.
<1> jhicks: hey whats that quote from tesla and einstein when they worked together back when?
<0> Linus-: just because popular culture says purple is orange doesn't make it so
<0> McDonald
<0> s
<2> i mean really though, what's a safer environment for a teenage girl to be getting drunk in? a bar, where there are plenty of people around and if she drinks too much they call her a cab OR a party at some house where if she drinks too much and needs to p*** out someone puts her on a bed in some dudes room?
<0> Most popular restaurant
<6> so i should believe you despite every search result saying something different than you?
<0> Shall I retrieve the friggin patent?
<0> It's a Japanese patent
<6> the street drug commonly called meth, whether thats correct terminology or not, is based on ephedrine or pseudo-
<0> Linus-
<0> Listen to what I'm saying
<0> Banning cold medicine will not alleviate the meth epidemic
<0> It will worsen it.
<6> i didnt say it would
<0> That's ALL I'm saying.
<1> jhicks: just because our military says our dollar is strong doesnt make it such? maybe, but, my moneys on the dollar as they have more secret military crud then i have the lifetime to reverse engineer
<6> controlling production in intl labs could however
<0> No
<6> it worked with quaaludes
<0> Because it's readily made from widely available basic precursors
<0> quaalude market was mostly pharmaceutical
<6> Making ephedrine and pseudoephedrine -- the chemicals needed to make meth -- is a sophisticated, expensive process and just nine factories worldwide manufacture them in bulk: one each in Germany and the Czech Republic, two in China, and five in India.
<0> bootlegs were later on
<0> YOU DO NOT USE EPHEDRINE TO MAKE REAL METH
<8> sudafed
<6> but you do to make what is now sold as "meth"
<0> If you ban ephedrine then the stuff that replaces it will be farrrr much worse
<0> Get it?
<6> and much more costly
<0> no
<6> get it?
<0> NO
<6> next
<0> It is an organometallic reaction
<1> jhicks: yeah like tobacco
<0> uses magnesium turnings in a three neck flask
<1> or alcohol
<0> with a mercury seal
<0> and a stirring apparatus
<0> and a refluxing column
<0> you need VERY basic reagents to make it
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