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<0> Gloriae: they weren't cops, there was no crime being investigated, and no laws were being broken
<1> New Orleans cops taking hit contracts was a good one too
<2> i find it funny never is a mention of russian suit case nukes
<1> let's not forget good ole Rampart either
<0> gloriae: they were setups from start to finish to achieve political purposes of the agents
<3> gloriae: you probably don't even know any cops, i do and i'm not complaining about them to be "cool" they admit outright that they have cozy jobs where they don't really have to do **** and no one's going to question them
<4> you probably sound the same when you're bitching about women
<1> Bokavitch: she's frigid, you won't get laid there, give up
<4> reflexive
<0> gloriae: I doubt you have read anything about either case except propaganda, but why should that stop you?
<2> she's not even a she
<1> oh
<1> a she-man
<5> jsable: thanks, forgot to ignore you.
<1> figure
<5> wow, you are using gender as a way of bolstering your 'argument'
<2> she's at best a man bot
<5> that shows the strength of it.
<1> haha
<4> who?
<5> jhicks, in this case
<1> Timur: It's IRC, nothing matters here
<4> oh, the vivian20 bot maybe
<4> hahaha
<2> at worst you don't wanna know, a snake like reptile of ai
<5> well, I actually try discussing things seriously, but maybe I should seek that elsewhere
<1> Timur: IRC is a meaningless wasted of time.
<1> er, waste
<5> it can be, doesn't have to be
<4> some mornings, there just isn't any of that around
<1> it always is
<5> I've had some great, informative, interesting conversations
<1> totally wasteful
<5> no, it isn't always.
<1> that did nothing
<0> Timur: normally you do, but you have a couple of weak spots in your logic ... or blind spots maybe
<1> totally impotent
<0> Timur: I suppose we all do
<2> i'm just kidding, even if i wasnt i'd not be so mean as to for real another some reptile ai
<5> Oc: I don't think so, as much as others.
<1> it's all bits scrolling off into eternity
<1> means nothing
<5> that's one way of looking at it. doesn't have to be the only way.
<3> Ye Olde IRC
<1> I only use IRC because I learn a lot from FreeTrade and CryHavoc sends me jokes
<0> Timur: I think Waco was an important event worthy of studying, so I read up on it ... the more I read from independent investigators the more shocked I was. I didn't just shrug and say those whackos had it coming
<4> "so mean as to for real another some reptile ai" ?
<4> in search of translation
<1> but gloriae always brings its nasty attitude and butts in when others aren't talking to it
<5> Oc: I still say it
<5> jhicks: if irc doesn't matter, why would you care
<1> I don't care
<4> indignant self-righteousness is boring
<0> Timur: I know ... I know
<5> jhicks: well, that's your choice.
<1> yes
<1> Speaking of she-men
<3> i read "American Terrorist", the biography of Timothy McVeigh
<5> maybe if I were a drunk or drug user like some other chatters, I'd take things less seriously
<1> yuck
<5> but, I'm not.
<1> Timur: me either
<3> lol yeah i'm drunk, what of it?
<1> dammit
<5> weren't you just claiming you were mad because you didn't have marijuana?
<2> Bokavitch: and after reading did you learn to shoot or blow up stuff better?? if not some would like to know
<1> Timur: NOT having marijuana means you ARENT a drug user.
<1> duh
<0> I freely admit my bias ... I have felt for a long time that federal government power has grown too great in some areas, so I thought that Waco was an important event that should be investigated ... if you don't have my bias then I guess it would be easy to shrug and say "dangerous whackos, who cares?"
<3> jsable: not really, nothing i hadn't already learned from the Turner Diaries
<3> the description of how he wired the device etc was pretty interesting though
<5> no, it mean you ARE one, but are temporarily without.
<1> Timur: I also DON'T HAVE any alcohol
<4> they were terrorists, OcDoc, before you knew how to use the word
<1> no, i could have it if i wanted it
<4> and perhaps you still don't
<1> it's right down the street
<5> ah, ok. so why's it an issue
<1> you're the one that made it an issue
<5> Oc: and I admit mine
<5> jhicks: you brought it up
<0> gloriae: who was a terrorist?
<1> meaningless bits on irc
<3> lol
<4> OcDoc: context, context
<1> Timur: are you always so serious?
<4> 'Waco was an important event' etc
<0> gloriae: scroll, scroll
<4> same for ruby ridge
<0> gloriae: there were zero terrorists at Mount Carmel Center
<1> Timur: they've got pills for that
<4> the USA needs homegrown terrorists about as much as it needs al qaeda
<4> here they don't get to grow long
<0> gloriae: there were zero terrorists at Mount Carmel Center
<4> ho hum
<0> gloriae: you don't want to say why you think they were terrorists?
<5> jhicks: when discussing serious matters, generally, yes.
<3> Timur: You can say we're not having a compelling conversation, but it's pretty hard to when you dismiss any view for the opposing side as "Misplaced sympathies" etc. There are two sides to every issue and to just write off everything that we say isn't going to get any sort of stimulating conversation going
<4> I'm evidencing a point of view that isn't identical to your own, OcDoc; that doesn't mean I'm interested in convincing you, nor is my contribution an invitation to convince me of yours
<1> Timur: i think you are a little caught up with your self importance. you're an irc junkie fer cryin out loud
<5> jhicks: it's not about me; it's about the issues.
<4> Bokavitch: your problem might be that you think there's only one side to any issue
<0> gloriae: fine ... if you don't want to contribute anything to convo
<6> 'terrorist' label is thrown at everything these days. Imo, you can be racist and not a terrorist.
<1> nobody cares what irc junkies say about the 'issues'
<1> karl rove doesn't care
<2> gloriae: do not we still have a long standing, argument as to the reality of weather or not your ai,
<1> etc
<6> Karl Rove rocks.
<7> karl rove doesnt care about irc people
<5> maybe you don't take things seriously enough
<1> ke6i: but he doesn't care about us
<3> gloriae: umm ok, except that i just stated "There are two sides to every issue"
<6> That's why we talk on IRC. Because it doesn't matter, so we vent here.
<4> I have no idea who jsable is or why s/he/it thinks there's any past history between us
<1> exactly
<5> glo: ignore that loser
<1> ke6i wins
<4> I did a dns and saw cincinnati
<4> which cast no light on it either
<1> And I also get good jokes in the mail from CryHavoc
<4> Timur: thanks for the advice :)
<5> ke6i: to the extent new information and insights of value can be gained or incorporated, it can have value.
<2> gloriae: lier, i've debated with you plenty of times, i still hold my stance that you are darpa ai.
<5> I've learned things here.
<1> other than that it's just a way to exacerbate one's carpal tunnel syndrome
<5> even if not with the ideal frequency or quality
<1> Timur: and you'll never do anything with it because you're glued to a keyboard on irc
<5> well, maybe that speaks to the desire to learn.
<6> Yeah I guess it matters to us. But, in the end, like the sun explodes and kills off the human race. Nothing really matters in the end. :)
<1> hehe
<4> I'll take that as a compliment, jsable, whoever you are
<1> SEE!
<5> jhicks: I'm taking the Foreign Service Exam in April, and am teaching, so, we'll see.
<1> Timur: you're an addict
<4> ke6i: only if you have no plans for relocating before that happens
<4> some of us do
<1> it's hopeless, just wallow in your addiction with the rest of us junkies
<1> just don't pretend to be important
<1> because you aren't
<2> gloriae: complement granted as i've nothing against darpa, just boring ai
<5> jhicks: that doesn't mean I'll not p*** the FSE. Nor that my views won't have influence.
<1> or you wouldn't be here
<5> right. See, I know important people who irc.
<1> you'd be with Karl Rove
<0> Timur: what does the FSE get you? can you work for emb***ies and consulates
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