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<0> traditionally anyway
<1> royal purple used to come from Mediterranean shellfish
<0> fed african violets!
<2> someone help me out here, is it the Hare Krishnas or the Jews that drink the blood of blue eyed christian babies?
<1> heh ... grape juice
<0> Bokavitch: don't knock it till you try it
<1> Bokavitch: both ... it's a conspiracy
<2> lol
<3> its Cuthulu! the only devine blood drinker, heh now i'm joking.
<1> jsable: jeesh, at least spell it right
<4> that's not even funny.
<0> Molech trumps your Cuthulu
<0> Timur: It's called a "blood libel"
<2> I actually used to get Hezbollah's TV channel called "Al Manar" and they had a tv show where jews did that
<4> I know
<0> so silly that nobody takes it seriously
<3> jhicks you may be correct, i was only raised by deep ones.
<4> Boka: al Manar should be bombed
<2> and the government cut the signal for that one show :(
<4> yeah, aww
<2> hehe
<2> al manar was hilarious because of the insanity of it
<4> that's all we need is more idiotic propaganda from the Arab world.
<4> except a lot of people take it seriously.
<0> Timur: It was doing a pretty good job of discreditng them
<4> what was doing a good job of discrediting whom
<3> Bokavitch: now was it funny because you had alread failed your Sanity Check
<1> there was a link posted in here once to a music video for a popular fat lebanese singer about evil bush and evil PM of yisrael
<2> it would show 5 minutes of news, then cut to 10 minutes of propoganda showing kids throwing rocks at **** with epic music in the background, then cut to a news story about "The Zionist enemy" then go to new proboganda
<0> Timur: the people making that show
<0> Even Arabs were saying so
<2> *proboganda
<2> Propoganda
<0> It all started when Jacob put that sheep skin on his back
<0> And screwed poor Esau
<1> maybe it was agent provocateur stuff by the CIA
<2> damn i really am drunker than i thought, i'm typing like ****
<0> OcDoc: quite possibly
<1> CIA trolls
<0> that's the kind of stupid **** the CIA wastes our money on
<1> truth is stranger than fiction
<0> yep
<2> i wias pretty entertained by it
<0> Sort like Dr No
<0> or Benny Hill
<1> Dr Who
<0> Him too
<3> Timur: yeah we need less propaganda, from usa and its religious freedom bulljive, yeah religious freedom for a xtian maybe they could be granted the right to wright that in stone.
<0> crap, i set you up and didn't use it :-/
<5> We should just beam 'Fiddler on the Roof' to Arab TV's 24 hours a day.
<1> jhicks: better luck next time
<0> Timur: I agree, people should just stop lying
<1> heh
<0> Timur: Fat chance that'll happen for the next couple eons however
<4> jsable: huh?
<0> Here it is
<2> ke6i: lol!
<0> Christians lie
<0> Muslims lie
<0> Jews lie
<0> Zoroastrians lie
<1> yes the religious right needs more freedom to impose their beliefs on the rest of America
<4> jhicks: some Arabs may dispute the propaganda; many more seem to buy it wholesale.
<2> i dunno about jahova's witnesses
<2> it's hard to get those people to lie or to get them pissed off
<4> yet, there's a different perception of 'truth' in Arab culture
<0> Timur: Many people believe in Robert Tilton's TEEVEE HEALING POWERZ
<1> most people start with their own beliefs and then look for evidence to support it
<0> And they are every bit as dangerous as a few tilted arabs
<0> maybe more so
<0> because they look more normal to us
<2> jhicks: I heard from this guy Named Mahmoud Ahmedinejad that the jews lied and made up the holocaust
<3> jhicks: lying is a preservation principle, ppl/groups of people lie, to preserve themselves at time, if the truth that you would learn was that i'd eat you and yours do you think being truthfull to be healthy for us.
<0> How many people died in Oklahoma City?
<0> How many terrorists were there?
<1> two?
<1> is this a trick question?
<0> The ratio indicates that domestic terrorists are more effective.
<0> historically speaking.
<0> I rest my case.
<1> and it's a BIG case
<6> you don't think that overseas terrorists helped out in Okla City?
<4> jhicks: yes, but such belief generally doesn't affect other people much.
<0> shuddup june
<1> jhicks has large laurels upon which to rest
<4> like, serving as a rationalization for terrorism, say.
<1> June: helped out how?
<0> JuneNY == Laurie Mylroie
<1> June: he mixed up some fertilizer, packed it into a rental van and parked it
<1> how much help did he need?
<0> OcDoc: THE ARABS DID IT!
<0> It was all a lie!
<5> Doesn't take that many guys to 'be terrorists' -- By my counting most Arabs have never met a terrorist. Really the difference is the 'suicide bomber romanticization' and the posters and all that stuff.
<2> i would say that McVeigh was pretty much solo and just had Nichols help him put **** together
<4> jsable: denying the holocaust has nothing to do with 'Iranian self-preservation'.
<0> Bokavitch: so compared to the 19 he was MUCH more dangerous
<2> Yeah exactly
<0> And easier to hide his actions
<0> for much longer
<2> he almost got away
<0> yep
<5> McVeigh was part of a wider movement though.
<2> they pulled him over on a traffic violation or something
<1> the nineteen didn't hide their actions either ... it was stupid bureaucracy that led to their success
<5> Culture of paranoid thinking surrounding the Randy Weaver case and Waco bombinbs.
<4> except what you people seem to fail to realize is that there's a whole culture that supports terrorism, in large part, numbering in the hundreds of millions.
<2> if he was the rest of that movement hasn't done **** to my knowledge
<6> Timur, can you please expand on whatyou just said?
<4> which is of a different order of magnitude than a few domestic crazies, see.
<0> OcDoc: Which is why I am against anything the bureaucrats are for
<2> The waco bombings were BS
<1> all it took to prevent one out of four planes from hitting the target was a few people to stop acting like sheep
<2> we should have never attacked waco
<4> June: 'DERE LOT MORE TERIST MASLIMS DEN US 1Z'
<0> OcDoc: "Politicans, If'n they're fer it we-uns is agin it"
<1> kebi: where is the paranoia in the Weaver and Waco episodes?
<4> it's not even an interesting comparison to compare the terrorism of the Muslim world with either OKC or Waco
<0> They entrapped Weaver and murdered his wife.
<5> Also right wing racist groups.
<3> ke6i: oh christ, if you cannot see how wrong it was for an FBI sniper to shoot on the weaver case then , you are either a fed troll, or clueless ***, imho nothing the feds did was with cause.
<4> they're not really related in any way except in terms of tactics
<0> No conspircacy there, no sireebob
<1> Timur: what terrorism in Waco?
<2> Timur: i think it's a valid comparison, both attacks were for political ends
<0> Timur: Sure they are. They're terrorists.
<4> Oc: whatever, the same people talking about the same end
<0> And Idaho is harboring them!
<5> well yeah, sometimes even the stopped watch is right. And the paranoid racists were absolutely right about Randy Weaver.
<4> Boka: fine, then a street shooting in Camden is the same as WWII. Both are violence based on territory, say.
<6> was Weaver a real threat?
<0> NO
<5> Weaver was entrapment.
<5> That's why the case got so much attention.
<4> I'm glad Randy Weaver's house was raided and sad about his kid, but he placed him in that situation. Same for Waco.
<2> Timur: WWII had a lot to do with political philosophy, don't know that the same could be said of camden
<0> ke6i: attention?
<5> and became a celebrity cause among the radical right wing groups in the USA.
<1> Timur: say what?
<0> ke6i: they got away with murder
<0> no attention at all
<4> Boka: territory.
<0> nobody went to jail for it
<0> even briefly
<4> while we're throwing around spurious invalid comparisons.
<0> even for booking
<1> it gets to the relationship between people and their government ... just because someone is a whacko doesn't mean society has to go after him
<0> Timur: Ok you're right.
<2> I don't think it's valid to saw WWII was strictly about territory
<5> Well it was terrorism. I think behind all violent revolutionary ideas is a kernel of truth. That's the thing.
<4> depends what form that 'wackiness' takes.
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