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<0> now I havent read the whole thing..but lets start by giving everyone the url in case its phony...
<0> http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5C02%5C18%5Cstory_18-2-2006_pg1_7
<0> lets all go read that and see if thats the cl***ic I'm howling it is
<1> AAAman - Doesnt seem like that little bit of truth hinders your asessment of the influence of **** Cheney
<2> course, 1. he has no real authority to make such a recommendation so 2. it can only serve the purpose of trying to help mollify Muslim sentiment
<3> Paul Light, a Brookings Institution scholar who has written a book about the vice presidency also describes CHeney as being the most powerful VP in history.
<0> Timur, the fact he said it all , at the very least, makes him a total *****
<0> Timur, Clinton comes from America. First amendment, and all that horsecrap, eh
<4> the problem is that people are not re-publishing these cartoons
<5> AAAman, the question is HOW is Cheny the most powerful? I think Bush41 did more.
<2> Two: there are laws, then there are practical realities
<4> this gives radicals the idea that "violence works"
<2> if Clinton's words can help calm things, so much the better, on a practical level.
<2> even if they have no actual force
<0> Timur, urging them to "convict the publishers" doesnt sound like a "practical reality"
<4> the only way to prevent violence over cartoons is to floodthem with so many cartoos that they cannot possible respond
<3> Gore, for example, got slapped down in his early efforts to take a leading role on health care and welfare overhauls
<1> Timur - calm things?? CONVICT THE PUBLISHERS???
<4> and keep doing that for a few years solid
<0> hahahaha Timur, man
<4> *possibly
<2> Two: why not? he knows perfectly well that he has no power or influence over European media or governments
<2> no, I don't think he's quite sincere, see.
<0> Timur, stop, man. while I still respect you.
<2> get it? :)
<4> I think CLinton's words will serve ti make things much more violent
<2> you don't think the admin asked him to try to calm stuff own
<2> down
<2> I do.
<4> he has verbally legitimized the violence
<0> right
<4> that will make it increase
<1> egads
<2> legitimized or not, it's about expediency
<5> US_Male, good
<2> as well as about longer term goals.
<2> tomorrow, it'll be forgotten
<0> US-Male, in one sentence, swipes any tiny amount of logic that timur may have possessed, in ten min of bloviating crap
<4> well, it's not expedient to increase the riots
<2> in 2 years, the cartoons will be a distant memory
<2> no, that's not the goal, nor the expected result.
<1> Timur - Convicting the publishers is NOT expedient, its ***inine!
<5> Clinton ****ed up in revese, I want more violence over the cartoons, to show the Muslims as the ***holes they are.
<4> anything which encourages or emboldens violent people, has to be avoided
<4> what you have to do is face them head-on
<0> Timur, stop, please ! Your a good man, tho when you talk about guns, you turn into an effeminated pyscho, and you are bordering the boundary thereof, as we speak
<2> that's nice, but then, you don't have to deal with them over there. The USG does
<3> Spiro Agnew good government award
<6> Twobar: hahahah
<0> hehe
<2> I'm not effeminated to not want random ***holes to have guns
<2> not that it relates to anything
<0> you want them all banned
<0> nobody wants random ***holes to have them
<2> they have them
<0> at least be truthful
<2> so, there ya go
<2> I want them outta the hands of criminals
<2> that's my endgame
<2> anything else is negotiable.
<0> but your way of doing that makes no sense
<2> says you
<0> no liberals make sense when it comes to guns
<2> hasn't been tried, see
<2> so, hard to say.
<0> Liberal Logic: ban guns for us, and somehow, that will take them away from criminals
<0> ROFL !
<2> not that I expect the gun nuts to roll over right awya
<2> for.. everyone
<2> but yeah, then there's a black market, yada yada
<0> Make sure that only criminals and the govt to have guns, and somehow that will stop criminals from having them
<2> I know, not a simple issue
<1> Gun nuts? Eads
<1> err egads
<2> I don't mind the .gov having guns
<2> that's why they're.. the gov
<0> to the liberal, if you believe in the second amendment, you are a 'gun nut'.
<2> you know; police, soldiers
<0> as I said, effeminated psycho
<2> no, if you're obsessed with it and treat a gun like your ****
<2> except even more obsessively
<0> how is a gun like a **** ? I dont get that idiotic liberal pretend analogy
<0> hahaha
<2> yeah, you're a real judge
<7> hey the 2nd amendment says right to bear arms, doesn't say anything about guns, i want some nukes
<2> I dunno. google gun penis and see
<0> lemewinks, do your homework on what it means
<7> don't need to
<0> its easy, five min on google
<7> a nuke is an arms
<2> but that's a totally separate issue, anyway
<8> you know you can make zip guns prisoners in the pen make em sometimes
<0> yes you do, if you think nukes is alloweable
<0> Timur, I bet if one googles gun penis , one gets the ranting of a ton of liberals ?
<2> I dunno, was just a guess
<0> people who have never even fired a gun ?
<2> don't care, one way or the other, that much, really
<0> people who are deathly afraid of them ?
<2> I have fired a couple, no big deal
<2> not that interesting
<0> uh huh
<2> uh huh
<0> what kind did you shoot ?
<9> I have fired a gin. I have also had their wife. Perhaps it is the combination of those two...
<2> 30-30 , beretta 9-mm.. and one other kinda pistol
<9> gun
<2> forget
<0> Were you scared as you did it ?
<2> couple years ago. fun, but not something that interests me
<2> no
<0> did you feel that the gun could very easily kill you as lay there ?
<9> they say "gun is a pennis thing" becasue they are truely unsure of the utility of their own
<2> it was fun, for the most part
<0> as it lay there ?
<0> Well then where do you get the penis tie in ?
<0> if you shot a gun you know what its about
<2> no, I felt.. like aiming and shooting.
<2> it's a gun.
<9> Two most get it from women who's is lareger then theirs
<2> don't really give a **** one way or the other, see.
<0> what is the penis gun thing ? I am a 30 year gun nut and I have never mistaken a penis for a gun or a gun for my eyeball or armpit
<2> I dunno dude. convey some imagery.
<7> i want nukes
<0> is it about power ?
<0> maybe that's it, in the liberal feral brain ?
<9> I like women, I alos like guns. then again, I like cars too. I don't understand how enjoying any one of those entertainments detracts from the enjoyment of the other two
<4> it's penis envy, hence it becomes a virtual penis
<0> penis. gun. hahahaha
<2> I guess you could say that could be an aspect of it
<10> guns scare liberals, as does anything related to testosterone
<8> i tried to load my penis once pissed bullets for a month
<0> gawd. Wait. I just got it
<0> Feminists.
<2> they don't scare me, except when ***holes carry them around all over the place
<0> That's it. that has to be where it came from
<7> liberal brain isn't "feral" it's more like trying to apply modern concepts to feral inhabitants heh
<4> Twobar: penis envy
<0> Feminists. The tie in to penis and gun
<11> "gun nuts" are mostly hobbiests
<11> Some are pretty crazed
<11> but most are just hobbiests
<4> all power becomes a penis to some people
<0> that is the liberal feral brain, the feminist side
<11> I'm a "tank nut"
<2> they're obsessive sociopathic losers, mostly.
<0> US yep
<11> Timur, so are stamp collectors
<9> I am a fissonables nut
<2> Two: wow, you really make meaningless correlations easily
<9> philatalists
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