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<0> according to the url that he posted
<1> Kardos oral herpes = cold sores
<0> amm, hmm
<2> I did it in high school with a girl who had the jack but i didnt get it, all my friends did.
<1> "the jack" ?
<2> I was on a propylactic dose of antibiotics.
<2> prophlyactic
<2> The Clap
<3> Kobushi it's the same virus
<2> Gonnoreah
<3> there's no clinical distinction
<2> heheheheh
<4> ideally you would want to contract herpes zoster (chickenpox) early in life, since it has a higher mortality if caught later
<1> Rebec yeah, but it's not the same sort of infection :P
<3> varicella
<5> kardos: oral herpes is just as contagious and incurable and leads to genetal herpes
<2> Well herpes simplex virus is the one you dont want.. My sister has it
<2> BUT
<3> kobushi well it's the same virus, but I am sure it's not as bad
<2> my manic depressive sister
<2> BUT
<2> After years the symptoms tend to almost completely go away
<2> they have with her.
<0> Johan-: what im saying is.... is 50-80% of us have this, then it's won
<1> Rebec it's far more common than genital herpes... which doesn't lend it's self to the claim that it causes genital herpes as Johan- just said
<2> But I have never had any venereal disease I had a complete blood screening when I found out my wife was pregnant
<5> FT: What happens when a person infected with oral herpes gives oral *** to his/her partner
<3> Kobushi I didn't argue that. I was just stating that it's the same virus clinically speaking
<6> those dismissive "****s" that you had are going to come back to you...Quaint, but Oh so true!
<1> Johan- depends if they are currently in a break-out or not
<3> Johan they get genital herpes
<2> I even tested for cicyl cell anemia
<7> re
<2> Sicyl
<3> sickle
<2> sickyl
<2> sickle
<7> ew, what a convo to come back to
<2> thanks
<2> heheh
<1> Johan- if the person giving oral *** doesn't have a cold sore at the time, then they don't get genital herpies, if they do... then they could :P
<8> wife is painting the house
<2> Sometimes the easiest way is the right way
<2> ;)
<7> from art to herpes
<1> hope that was enough "they"s for ya
<6> Damn, where did I learn English?
<3> Zenabi at the university?
<6> lol
<7> Zenabi: your English seems tip-top
<3> Your English is good
<6> ty
<2> Johan, Oral herpes is different than genital herpes
<3> well better than that ;)
<3> Free no it's not it's the same virus
<2> there is no cross contamination ask ocdoc
<3> I asked when I took microbiology
<1> My wife got oral herpes from her mom in the womb; her mom had a cold sore during the pregnancy and she got it too.
<5> OMG..I'm screwed
<3> clinically it's the same virus
<2> Most of us have had oral herpes
<2> You ever had a cold sore ?
<2> If so you have had herpes
<7> so much for the protective placenta
<2> The herpes people refer to negatively is genital herpes
<9> on da steets?
<8> Free: not all cold sores are herpetic
<2> Rebec its not the same they are cousins
<5> kobushi: "About one in four pregnant women has genital herpes, and as many as 90% are undiagnosed"
<3> Free you can take it up with my micro prof she has a phd and said they are the same virus
<2> one is herpes simplex virus 2 and the other is herpes simplex virus
<3> and her area of research is herpes
<2> Well Most of us have had herpes 1
<3> it's the same virus she said they used to distinguish a while back that way, but that was before people got so liberal in ***ual practice
<2> A Cold sore is herpes 1
<3> she said now it's the same virus
<7> ok, too nauseating
<7> bbl
<3> but I can give you her email address and you can argue it with her
<2> Genital herpes is herpes 2
<2> and you can ONLY Get it by ***
<3> Free it's the same virus
<5> FT: Its still the same virus/parasite
<2> different strains
<3> Free no
<10> i had aids for breakfast
<8> to the best of my recollection without looking it up, they are two strains of the same virus, but they tend to be spread through contact and MOST contacts are genital to genital or mouth to mouth
<11> http://www.nndb.com/people/946/000024874/MosheDayan2.jpg
<11> **** yeah.
<11> Moshe Dayan.
<3> clinically they are the same
<2> Why is it I have had herpes (cold sore) and yet I am not nor can infect anyone with herpes genital ?
<8> you COULD catch type two genital to oral, or type one oral to genital
<3> I asked her how you test to distinguish between I and II and she said you don't
<3> so they are the same virus
<8> Free: not all cold sores are herpes
<12> Herzen, what's the deal with Dayan?
<5> FT: They're both just as contagious and incurable
<3> anyway I'll be back when the political discussions return
<6> dude...the complexties of simplexities :)
<8> Free: you have to have a test to see if your cold sore is herpes or not
<1> Zenabi haha
<2> How alike are HSV-1 and HSV-2? In this feature, we look at the latest scientific facts about the two types of herpes simplex virus, as well as social attitudes toward oral and genital herpes.
<5> "Few conditions can match the havoc caused by neonatal herpes in its impact on affected families," says H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
<10> depends on how often you engage in oral activities
<2> When many people first tell someone they have genital herpes, they start by comparing the infection to oral herpes, or cold sores. How apt is the comparison? In spite of scientific facts, the social stigma and emotional attitudes surrounding genital herpes can make it hard to compare it objectively with an oral infection that most people casually accept. Following the unspoken ***umptions of our society, many people still believe
<1> Well I dunno... but I follow a siple rule... when my wife has a cold sore, I get no BJs, and I don't kiss her or drink after her :)
<1> you guys... do what you want :D
<2> There is my proof in the 2 kinds.
<8> Free: cut to the chase
<2> There may be some interchangeability so to speak
<10> FT: do you have any stds?
<8> they are distinguishable only by type testing
<1> OcDoc flying monkies; that's the point
<2> But there are in fact 2 kinds of Herpes simplex virus
<2> I have known this for years
<3> Free clinically they are indistinguishable
<3> I asked specifically in micro
<2> Under a microscope, HSV- 1 and 2 are virtually identical, sharing approximately 50% of their DNA. Both types infect the body's mucosal surfaces, usually the mouth or genitals, and then establish latency in the nervous system. For both types, at least two-thirds of infected people have no symptoms, or symptoms too mild to notice. However, both types can recur and spread even when no symptoms are present.
<10> i always use condoms
<3> later all
<2> The two types do behave somewhat differently depending on whether they are residing in their site of preference-the mouth and face for HSV-1, and the genital area for HSV-2. But both types are quite common, and under most circumstances neither is a major health threat. That's one reason medical professionals tend to dismiss HSV -2 despite the emotional trauma a diagnosis can cause for a patient.
<2> Here is the key
<2> why does rebecca leave when I have facts to demonstrate the error in saying are the same.
<2> Generally speaking 2 is transferred ***ually and ask my sister its easily transferred and initially very painful which eventually goes away
<5> "Under a microscope, HSV- 1 and 2 are virtually identical, sharing approximately 50% of their DNA."
<8> Free: you're both right
<2> 1 is usually a cold sore and maybe I have never had it because not all cold sores are Herpes (MY mistake)
<8> Free: you wer talking past each other
<2> But generally speaking though there is cross contamination (As I said earlier)
<2> Each strain prefers oral or ***ual
<2> 1 oral 2 ***ual
<2> Thats the preference of the disease
<5> "More than 90 percent of all adults older than 40 are positive for HSV-1! That means that you could not infect most of your colleagues because they are already infected."
<2> OcDoc, yes but people should not be intimidated by a challenge ?
<2> This is a politics channel we debate.
<2> we challenge things
<2> we reconcile things often with facts
<0> heres a guestion then... are genetically modified foods a Good Thing?
<2> usually as in this case I am partially correct which she denied and partially wrong. I was correct in noting that she was wrong that there was NO difference
<13> chicken pox is also a member of the herpes virus family and extremely common
<2> And to think her microbiology teacher told her this ?
<2> She should be fired.
<2> there is a difference.
<8> Kardos: yes
<0> so why are the euros so worried about it
<2> Of you dont have an allergy which is rare to say a peanut gene which is sometimes used to make tomatos hardier
<2> Kardos mostly ifnorance.. and fear
<8> Kardos: paranoia runs deep .. into your life it will creep
<14> hi
<2> same reason americans in 1980 feared nuclear power plants
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