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<0> I just hope there are healthy bidness ventures goin' down in the W H
<0> bush (admin) ought to make a point for private investment
<0> and show that $8 to > $60 per share of Haliburton for a private retirement account
<0> would allow DIRECT benefit of OIF, etc, to seniors
<0> I think it's a point the administration has overlooked
<0> Hali at under $100 to me is still a big*** bargain
<1> are there any holidays next week?
<2> national google day
<1> are you insinuating that I should google this up?
<1> *incinerating rather
<2> sure =)
<2> Washington's Birthday
<2> next real holiday isnt 'til May 29
<2> Hiddekel sets mode: +v Hiddekel
<2> wtf
<3> lol



<2> silly botty
<2> http://www.thanhniennews.com/features/?catid=10&newsid=12673
<4> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185303,00.html
<2> old enough to crawl, they're in the right position
<5> Abusive Domain or User
<6> dead-eye ****, terrorista supremo!
<7> !
<6> 99 cents at taco bell
<7> yum
<6> "yeah, gimme a double dead-eye"
<6> "with the hot salsa"
<6> aka the Magoo
<7> http://www.worldvillage.com/wv/cafe/download/magoo.wav
<6> ha
<6> i cant wake up everyone
<6> oomph
<7> feel the powerlessness!
<6> i knew you been wanting to straddle me
<6> you beener
<7> oh, magoo, you've done it again.
<6> what a great toon
<7> yeah, miss that
<6> with thurston howell aka jim backus
<6> or sumthin
<7> that's right
<6> cool
<6> not as senile as once thought
<7> what were we just talking about?
<6> i cant see
<6> magoo at taco bell i think
<6> who are you
<6> do do do do
<6> 'Bird Flu Psychosis' Is Catching
<6> Since the beginning of the week, the Italian Health Ministry reported, it has received more than 13,000 phone calls to a special bird flu hotline to report dead birds or ask for advice.
<6> Health Minister Francesco Storace on Monday toured the southern provinces where infected swans had been found.
<6> "We have to keep calm," he said, the Italian media reported. "The problem is restricted to wild waterfowl. The illness has not affected poultry, and we can continue to eat chicken."
<6> Nevertheless, poultry sales have plunged 70%.
<7> didja read about the .it rape case
<6> nope
<7> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4726002.stm
<6> oh i heard of it
<6> sheesh!
<6> damn whoremones!
<6> judge calls her "big for her age"
<6> ;)
<7> yeeah
<7> and ***ually precocious or something
<7> that's a healthy family
<8> i dunno why ppl find that surprising
<2> you guys ever been to europe
<8> that's a starightforward decision and it makes sense
<2> i remember i was over there when i was like 16, i remember thinking damn those italian girls mature fast
<2> physically
<8> ya
<8> and socially
<2> french girls to
<5> Bigoted behavior from this ip/domain
<6> i dont have a problem with consensual *** with 14 yr olds actually
<7> I do



<6> but if he was raping her, i have major problems
<2> i dont at all, if you're the same age
<8> why does same age matter
<6> 14 yr olds are physically ready, and prior to the last 100 yrs, were getting married and having kids with older spouses
<2> cause a 14y/o's mind isnt ready for 40y/o bob's bull****
<7> because if they get knocked up, they're not in a position, generally, to deal with the consequences, generally, for one.
<6> RzR needs a security blanket like mine
<6> regardless, the guy was raping her
<6> he deserves at least 10-20
<7> what if it was mutually consensual?
<6> theres too many of these cases in which the guy pursues a mom but in reality wants her kid
<6> well, we dont know now do we
<6> since it doesnt say what the girls testimony, if any, was
<7> another good reason to make it illegal
<6> it IS illegal
<6> i just think a one size fits all law is silly at times
<7> the merits of the law would seem imo to outweigh the costs
<6> i think the courts need to have some leeway, if it appears the two are committed
<6> w/o more info, i would venture that wasnt the case here though
<6> we dont really have much to go on
<6> it could be a really angry spurned mom pursuing this with zeal
<7> 14 year olds aren't old enough to understand the implications of such commitment.
<6> or the guy truly is a sleazebucket
<7> or both
<7> or both, and she's a neglected abused kid generally, and the guy contributed to it.
<6> Timur, but they were in the 1800's?
<6> or in christ's time?
<6> he took advantage of it
<7> kids were forced to grow up faster when society was more primitive
<6> "forced?"
<7> by circumstances.
<6> puberty isnt forced upon you, its natural afaik :)
<7> one of the advantages of a more modern and sophisticated society is to allow for a longer period of growth before making commitments for which one isn't really ready.
<7> no, not puberty. Emotional development.
<6> so now we've created adolescenc, a period for wallowing around w/o responsibility, in one's own ***ually charged angst
<7> and behaviors which exist contextcually.
<6> id say thats working out swell!
<7> ah, but there is responsibility, even if such isn't always enforced. It's normative, if the family is decent, communicative, and responsible
<7> the ones who aren't, sadly, aren't made so by the presence or absence of al aw
<7> it's just an attempt at having a failsafe.
<6> we are repressing instinctual human behavior because its not convenient for adults in modern society to deal with
<7> no, that's not why.
<7> not all instincts deserve being allowed to act upon
<6> whatever the why is, its not natural imo
<7> 'natural'.
<7> read some hobbes. :)
<7> free reign of animal instincts is no way to run a society, son.
<6> i do, along with calvin :)
<7> fat, drunk and stupid..
<7> well, there you go, then. :)
<6> its not free reign, there's constraints within families and communities
<6> not some federal or state agency overning ***uality
<6> each family decides what works for them
<7> sometimes there are, sometimes not.
<6> legislating morality... bleh
<6> labelling *** as dirty or wrong... bleh
<7> falsely ***uming the law cannot or should not overlap with morality. .bleh
<6> there are quite a few who think Mary was not impregnated immaculately
<6> and that was just put in there later to enforce church moral codes
<8> then why do they call her "Mary with the Cherry" ?
<7> it's not really a q of *** as 'dirty or wrong', though that may be the historical antecedent, so much as the results of teenage pregnancy generally doesn't produce healthy families.
<6> but in her time, becoming pregnant at 13 was not unusual
<7> right, in her time.
<8> i went to Mary's house
<7> things change, laws and moral codes and expected and optimal behaviors do as well
<8> it's still there, in Turkey
<7> Turkey?
<6> i agree that teenage pregnancy in modern times isnt very appropriate, since teens arent in the "adult" workforce in general
<8> yup
<6> and the core family unit isnt there necessarily
<7> how would Mary's house be in Turkey
<8> it's a really small house
<6> but you can have *** and not become pregnant quite easily
<8> cuz all the signs say "THIS IS MARY'S HOUSE"


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