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<0> Pretenders
<0> damn youngin's
<1> Pretenders are swell..saw them at the House of Blues back in March
<2> geritol rock
<0> LOL!
<3> 426Hemi is my lucky star!
<1> heh..they can outrock any of the hairband/chainsaw/grunge/pissed off metalheads any day of the week
<0> i gotta turn Rush off
<0> the guy has been ranting for the past week and a half on freakin immigration
<1> Rush is a doo-doo head
<4> ah yes
<4> the economy is just ROARING back http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195838,00.html
<0> i wished i could get B1 Bob Dornan in NY
<0> thats the one thing I miss about Texas
<4> oil price gonna stop this recovery in its tracks if the prices keep being high like this
<0> B1 Bob is a bad ***
<4> prices even
<1> dont be such a negative nellie
<3> WTF
<1> all will be well
<1> just trust
<1> you gotta belieeeeve!!
<4> yea i should trust that iran is going to stop saber rattling about its new nukes sometime soon (along with venezuela selling stuff to iran and saber rattling towards the us) and the middle east oil crisis is going to just disappear all on its own
<4> bah
<5> godfish: Um, that is a *great sign* for the economy.. profit taking!
<4> sorry high oil prices are greater than any marginal profit taking by oil companies
<4> ok yea yea profit taking > *
<6> Oil companies make 6-8 cents a gallon. Big deal.
<5> profit taking = economy is growing
<0> stupid me, i gave my mom my mom my collectors edition Woodstock
<0> CD's =(
<6> It's a non-issue what oil companies make.
<0> **** cost me like 150$
<4> so the price of oil is $100 a barrel for 6 months. man look at all that profit taking. that'll help the economy. praxis this has nothign to do with oil companies getting profits. that's irrelevant. high oiil prices hurt our economy period
<5> and the US dollar is doing great, making US products more affordable around the world.
<6> godfist: The oil companies don't set the price for oil. There is nothing that can be done about it.
<0> the world fears a low dollar
<0> god forbid if USA compete's
<0> I can't believe they blew up a jeep in Ingushetia province in Russia
<0> =(
<4> look
<4> it doesnt matter how much profit the oil companies may be making. its complicated so lets put that aside
<0> waste of a good jeep=(
<5> aka: I can't prove my point, so lets ignore it
<4> what *is* certain is that the fed govt is taxing oil at more than 30 cents per gallon..hell could be $.50
<4> then there's state oil taxes
<4> ...why doesn't bush lower the govt tax on gas 10 cents or something...would be simple and could work
<7> CometBaby has seen the da vinci code already?!
<4> yea comet had to go see the movie to get her ammunition as to why its all false and a bad movie. couldn't be left in the dark
<5> god: you mean, you want bush to give a tax break to the rich? lol lol lol
<5> big fat cats riding around in their limo's get a tax break.. nice.
<1> I read the book...won't bother with the movie
<3> DeDannan: have you read Angels and Demons?
<1> no
<4> everyone pays for gasnot the rich. trying to paint me as a liberal isn't working nor have i said anything directly pointing to me being a lib. i didnt say a word about oil companies making a profit being bad. period. dont know why you're trying to slant the argument that way
<1> probably won't either
<3> DeDannan: honest to god, it is much better
<1> Dan Brown isn't that good of a writer imo
<3> the Da Vinci code was great and fun as is
<0> they should get a tax break
<4> yea ok the rich should get a tax break i agree
<0> the more tax break they get the more the driver makes+)
<7> Publius: i started listening to angels and demons a couple days ago
<4> but we're talking gas prices, all income cl***es pay it not just the rich
<5> godfish: ah, but the rich buy MORE gas/fuel.. hence, it is proportionately a greater tax break for the rich
<5> and companies.. lol.. they buy ALOT of gas/diesel.. so you want corporate welfare? nice.
<4> taxing gas so high is wrong PERIOD lupine
<5> FedEx.. yea.. they'll save millions, while a poor grandmother who doesn't own a car gets nothing.
<4> stop mincing words
<7> Lupine is against lowering taxes?
<7> funny
<5> what about old women who don't even own a car? why do you wish to not give her a taxbreak.. but give it to rich greedy companies?
<4> you know it is, all your devil's advocate arguements are false
<6> Granny needs to get her *** a moped with a raked front end and slicks.
<0> 187 aint **** but a misdemeanor
<1> the premise was derrivative and and silly, the action and dialogue was contrived, the characters were 2 dimensional...other than that it was a fine book :)
<4> yea litium he's making a caricature of his own conservative ideals...or he appears to be towing the conservative line anyway
<0> if you bang to the boogie then you boogie to the bang
<5> godfish: true or false: will a taxcut on gasoline save a huge company liek FedEX more money, than an old lady who doesn't own a car?
<4> maybe it will, doesn't mean the taxes still shouldn't be cut lupine
<0> Lupine , NY just p***ed a gas tax cap
<5> god: it will. So, you favor giving huge corporatations a tax cut, but not an old lady. how um, "progressive" of you.
<0> its funny though
<6> The market is the only impartial mechanism for determining the price of anything.
<5> why not give the poorest people the most ***istance?
<0> the state charges like 20-30 cents a gallon gas tax
<0> but it will only save us 10 cents at the pump
<0> hahhahaa
<6> The state is, by definition, not impartial.
<4> lol you can't put everyone who isn't rich into your silly 'old lady' group. how disappointing your 1 dimensional arguments are
<8> Lupine: shipping and fairs will go up is something isnt done
<7> BLACK JACK, Missouri (AP) -- The City Council has rejected a measure allowing unmarried couples with multiple children to live together, and the mayor said those who fall into that category could soon face eviction.
<4> you're not even good at playign devil's advocate lup.
<5> god: of course that is just at the end of the spectrum... but companies and rich people who own tons of gas guzzling cars.. will save more.
<6> godfist: He didn't put "everyone up who is rich." He named a single company, did he not?
<7> Social conservatives.....what ***holes
<8> er.. fares
<8> not fairs
<5> god: that isn't the devil's advocate.
<5> I just do not think rich corporations should get a tax subsidary, while the poor get almost nothing.
<4> he didn't say anything about the middle cl*** benefiting from the gas tax break or even borderline poor people who still drive and woudl benefit. its far more compliacated than "OMG fed ex is rich only they benefit from the tax break"
<5> companies/rich people can "afford" higher gas prices.
<5> godfish: why not free gas for all those making say, under $50k? and no tax cut for those making over 100K?
<4> besides if fed ex gets a tax break, then they can lower shipping costs to the consumer and dont tell me they wont, they are probably getting less business because of high gas price
<6> godfist: Our point is that the rich will benefit from any cap on gas prices. And you know what? The same is true of any cap on prices.
<4> its not a CAP. its lowering taxes
<4> not the same
<5> god: be *consistent* in your logic. it's the same arguement for not cutting income taxes on the rich.
<4> no what you mean is ONLY the rich woudl benefit. which is false
<6> godfist: Even lowering taxes. The will benefit more, will they not?
<4> HAHAHA
<5> god: not "only" but in proportion, yes. Grandma will save what.. $5/week? while the rich greedy corporation will save $5million/week
<4> so you're trying to say lets keep immoral high taxes where they are?! how communist of you
<6> The rich wouldn't be the only cl*** to benefit. But the "benefits" (whatever they are) would benefit anyone who has a greater need for gasoline.
<4> your devils advocate argument is working so good
<4> keep it up lol
<5> god: no, I am saying let's not give the rich a huge tax subsidary, when we give the poor a pitinance
<5> praxis: right, it is a disproportionate tax subsidary for corporations and the rich
<5> grandma will save $5, rich coproation will save $5million. That's hardly fair, is it?
<6> Lupine: The end of redistribution isn't that everyone shares equally. The end is that the powerful control even more.
<4> yea and forget about lowering income taxes, it benefits the rich the most (oh btw they're getting taxed at a higher rate so of course they would that's not a revelatin). you said a cap? income tax=cap on income earned!? makes no sense
<3> "against the truimphant might of hitler, with the greedy italian on his tail, WE STOOD ALONE"
<1> gotta be Churchill
<4> our government is spineless so they can't lower taxes would upset the libs and the lib repubs would take their side
<5> god: well, i do not believe in tax subsidaries for the rich, at the expense of the poor and working cl***es.
<4> the lib dems
<4> wow how weak our country is
<6> Eh. Time for work.
<6> Buy bye.
<5> a much fairer way would be to have the gas tax tied to your income.
<3> DeDannan: bingo
<4> high taxes=reasonable. that's the message #politics sends. no wonder arugment on this # is so pointless
<4> thank god i dont drive
<5> too many DUI's?
<4> gas taxes are yet another reason the costs of owning a car are outrageous
<4> and our govt wont lift a finger to stop it
<4> they have #politics in their corner!
<4> i mean why should they lol
<9> Lupine: how would you calculate the individual gas taxes?
<5> god: i think they should leave the gas tax intact for people making over $50k.. then have anyone making under 25k pay nothing
<5> moozh: well, you could have a point of sale tied to your previous years 1040.. or, another way is a gas-tax rebate when you file.
<9> sounds socialist, a lot of ppl has to work just to calculate what others should pay, and it promots cheating by having a more complex system
<5> you'ld have to study which is the most feasible way, and of course, have its own department in the IRS to oversee it
<4> man lupine you've gone nuts
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