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Comments:
<0> it is what it is
<1> Nonongo, that's what I'm saying
<2> are you a LaVey satanist?
<3> Occ, it's the only religion I know of that won't let just anyone join.
<2> or some kinda occultist?
<3> LaVey, I'm not into the occult stuff.
<2> aww, come on
<2> there are better libertarian philosophers than lavey
<3> I'm strictly into perfecting the art of lesser magic right now.
<1> What's the point in being in a religion that's selective?
<2> what, like magic spells?
<4> what's the point in religion.
<1> occ_, I tap my black mana and play...
<2> to make you feel better about death, ke6i
<1> ke6i, amen.
<3> Well, technically anyone can buy membership in the Church of Satan, but to be a real satanist you have to be of a certain mindset, and people who are not of that mindset will simply be ostracized by other Satanists.
<1> People say that about tons of religions
<2> wait, wait
<2> whats "lesser magic"?
<1> Just about every Christianity sect says that they're the real Christianity.
<2> im intrigued.
<1> occ_, read up.
<1> occ_, manipulation of people basically.
<1> At least that's what he defined it as.
<2> hehe
<2> lavey?
<1> Apparently.
<3> It's the Satanic term for imposing your will on others through simple manipulation of their weak minds.
<2> fair enough
<2> but lavey was hardly tops at that
<3> Most people are weak-mined, as anyone who has worked in sales is well aware.
<2> yah, yah
<2> its easy to be elitist
<3> Lavey was into grater magic, imposing his will telepathically.
<5> weak minded in what way ?
<2> well, that obviously crapped out
<2> telepathy is bull****
<3> In being stupid enough for fall for smarter people's tricks.
<2> this "lesser magic", ie, psychological manipulation, has a bit more to it
<2> if hed drop the silly mystical veneer
<5> weak and stupid are two very different concepts
<3> As a skeptic, I don't believe in telepathy, and will not believe in it unless I see proof.
<4> I believe in telegraphy
<2> it doesnt exist
<2> forget about it
<5> what about remote viewers
<2> nope, rv is crap
<2> doesnt work
<3> But, the Satanists I know who are into it, are very different from me in that they don't even try to blend in with a crowd.
<2> i wish it did, because itd be cool, but no.
<4> Aren't all the Wicca/Satanist women were really fat.
<2> anyone who can demonstrate any sort of ESP can have one million dollars from James Randi
<2> its there for the taking,
<3> They have no problem dressing exactly the way they want to, behaving the way they want to, they aren't afraid of being social outcasts because they are convicned that they can deal with people effectively just by imposing their will in a "mysical" manner.
<2> but IT DOESNT EXIST
<2> you know satanists?
<1> That's odd.
<2> i thought this was mostly, you know, a teenagery lark
<5> Art Bell = Satan
<2> i mean, i read part of the satanic bible and all that
<4> Or that goth business.
<2> blah blah
<2> but we grow past that
<2> you know?
<3> Well, most the greater magic Satanists do embody the goth stereotype.
<2> i read "zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance" and "walden", too
<2> but you get past this crap
<1> Walden Two
<1> Is the ****.
<1> ;x
<6> walden=boring
<2> which psych was that, P_O?
<2> it wasnt hjung
<3> They are fun to hang out with in private, but I wouldn't want to be seen in public with them, if you know what I mean.
<1> occ_, that was... ****.
<1> Lemme find it.
<2> it was the behavioralist guy
<1> It's the one who specialized in Behaviorial stuff
<1> yeah
<1> ;x
<2> skinner
<2> SKINNER!
<2> well on my rant, moving along
<2> behavioralism is bull****
<2> just another fad
<1> The book was decent though.
<1> A little crazy
<1> but decent.
<2> i didnt read it
<2> hehe
<2> lend it to me sometime
<1> Heh, sure, come down to Denver sometime.
<1> And casually smoke some crack.
<2> ehe
<2> im ALWAYS casual
<3> What is behavioralism as defined by Skinner?
<2> asically that human behavior is completely predictable
<2> based on simplistic influences
<2> hate psychology
<2> its such bull****
<1> No one in psychology should ever say completely.
<1> Ever.
<2> psychology is such crap science
<1> It's a soft science
<2> every generation, theres a new darling
<1> what do you expect.
<2> who's got all the answers
<2> i mean, there are basic level observable psychological phenomenon
<2> but most of these people try to work oiut some broad "key" to human behavior
<2> which is inherently flawed
<2> because they're not as smart as me!
<2> :D
<3> That's the problem with people who try to act as though they have all the answers.
<1> D:
<2> (ok, i added that last part on to be a wise***)
<2> but truthfully, psychological theory gets turned on its ear about every 20 years
<3> If they would just reduce the intensity of their proposition, and say that certain kinds of human bevavior are generally predictable, they could be taken seriously.
<2> maybe
<2> but you still havent backed up your satanic magic thang
<3> I already said I am skeptical of "greater magic".
<4> I suspect that DaVinci code movie is going to ****. Probably they'll be car and helicopter chases -- with occasional preachy dialog about God.
<3> I don't believe in it, because I haven't seen proof, but the greater mages are fun to hang out with.
<3> As long as I don't have to be seen in public with them.
<3> Actually I did go clubbing with them once, but it was a gothic club so we blended right in.
<2> ou know like er
<2> magicians?
<2> goddammit, my first letter keeps getting cut off!
<3> That's because I'm forcing you to forget to type it.
<3> I just mastered the art of greater magic.
<1> lol
<4> I was never much into clubs. I just fall asleep at them.
<2> hehe
<1> Clubs are pointless to me.
<3> Feel the power of Satan, you will never type a complete word again.
<1> Granted they really are pointless at my age
<1> can't drink at the clubs I can go to.
<2> oh, i'm feeling it
<4> At least where I went they played this 'industrial music' -- that sounded sort of like my washing machine grinding away. It put me to sleep within 10 minutes.
<2> wait, ****
<3> They are good for ***ual encounters.
<1> I don't care about *** really.
<1> So that's why they're pointless for me.
<1> ;x
<3> Ah
<4> I've never been able to pull off the random ***ual encounter thing.
<2> you go to goth clubs, kai?
<3> Well that's probably to your benefit, a *** drive can be quite a distraction sometimes.
<3> Only a few times.
<2> yah, a distraction from the true purpose:
<2> learning magic
<2> i like bauhaus
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