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<0> Lupine, that would make a better microwave than computer.
<1> Unless one operates under the fantasy that oil drilled in the US would be sold for some special 'American price'. :)
<2> Lupine no. but I used the Wang equiv; had 4k and Nixie Tubes. used Ferite Ring Core memory
<3> pil: i still love the "look" of nixie tubes
<2> there was a 32k memory box... it was a seperate CPU on 220v power with core rings in a matrix
<2> it was one mother of a hot thing
<2> gotta go
<3> for ****s n grins, I reran spybot.. nope, nothing detected. so much for an "insecure system". just use a friggin brain when surfing
<4> yeah, so I accidently got all that **** on my box, **** you
<4> its "Magic"
<3> just use spybot immunize, and control yoru cookie appetite
<4> I have cookie fuggin shot off.
<5> use lynx; you'll never have issues with spyware ;)
<6> yeah youll spend your time trying to get things to work instead
<4> I hate XP, always have. it does its job, barely.
<6> does its job pretty nice for me



<6> and 99% of the rest of us who use it
<4> uh huh
<4> yeah, its a "Problem Free" os
<4> run with that
<6> play a wmv 9 file on linux
<7> Good kicks
<6> theres no such thing as a problem free os
<7> Windows! ;P
<3> Win2K/XP is able to do for me, what no other OS can do. For me, that is all that matters. The right tool for the job.
<4> XP is a memory whore, it loads a service for every piece of hardware you install, its susceptible to viruses and all kinds of security hacks, and it requires additional software out of the box
<4> I liked 2k, kinda, the internet TCPIP side of it was solid
<6> and its the best desktop OS out there for most people
<6> when someone comes along with something better, cheapr, faster, etc
<4> its the "Only" desktop OS for most people.
<6> we'll all switch over
<6> but until then, xp works fine
<4> truth
<6> memory is cheap
<3> well, all OS require additional software out of the box for almost all users
<6> i dont even run a swapfile
<6> i got 2G
<6> for 150 bucks
<4> fordnut yeah, good thing, cuz you need a lot.
<6> lol
<4> Lupine False, my copy of Mandrake had it all.
<4> out of the box
<8> Communist News Network
<4> plus the **** to write more
<4> compiler and the whole nine yards
<4> WIndows you get a text editor, a card game, and a web browser
<3> darth: #1 that is more than just an OS. #2 it may have come with enough software installed for YOU.. but not for most users
<6> the reason people have a problem with xp is because OEMs install 256 megs of ram
<7> ROFL
<6> which would be great if this was 1999
<7> Jimmay Carteh
<3> "bundling is bad".. except when its not MS
<7> is at the Braves grave tonight
<7> game
<7> *
<4> Lupine well, Mandrake is apackage deal for sure, and I was surprised at what it came with, "Out of the Box"
<6> linux ****s for a desktop os
<6> in a multimedia web
<4> especially compared with the thin **** MS provides for your 150.00
<7> JImmay Carteh
<7> ;)
<6> linux is a great server os
<6> still not ready for anything on the desktop more than emails and websurfing
<3> darth: well, so many people whine/bitch/moan when microsoft includes an application..
<4> ayup, its all about what you do with your PC for sure.
<3> to me, including apps is never wrong. preventing apps from working however, is wrong.
<4> Lupine Hey, it still ****s, no matter who is bitching about it.
<4> its not MY fault.
<3> darth: i have close to $20k worth of software on this computer alone. the OS cost is truley insignificant
<4> Lupine an exception, not a rule.
<6> heh
<6> not at all
<4> we do not make rules for exceptions
<6> who has microsoft office installed
<3> plenty of people have hundreds of dollars worth of gaming
<6> ?
<6> if you have microsoft offfice installed, your software is worth more than your OS



<3> ford: yep, all those business computers.. office is more
<6> period
<4> oh, I see, so now we get to give credit to XP for all the OTHER software people run on it? nice try
<2> indeed Lupine, Nixie tubes looked cool!
<6> you can run office on windows 95
<6> its not xp specific ffs
<4> actually, I'd hate to tally my gaming habit....
<3> Darth: yes/no. We give credit because XP can figure it out, but others can not
<4> Lupine just a shame it can not do it WELL
<6> you can run office on linux too
<3> but, XP probably costs dell $10
<9> I had nixie tubes
<3> pilgrim: mechanically, this calculator is very ingeneous http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/curta_i.html
<4> I am looking at dropping some serious coin on an accounting app and I am seriously considering moving away from XP because of all the ****ing headaches.
<2> Offce runs(?) VB written specific macros. thus we have many functions in my corp automated, integrated, interfaced, and confustigated. change from like Office 2000 to 2003 and all heck breaks loose
<3> devised by a jew held in the Buchenwald concentration camp. Imagine what he could have done if allowed to prosper?
<4> printers, networking, internet
<2> Lupien very cool and a bit Davincified :)
<4> oh
<4> and try and run your precious XP operating system without an internet connection
<4> lots of luck with that.
<2> Darth I can do all that on a Commodore
<3> darth: eh? what is difficult about that?
<9> Darth: Under what circumstances would I do that?
<2> XP pays my bills. It is what I do. but I seldom run it at home
<3> i use XP on my laptop all the time without an internet connection
<4> Lupine oh, say, drivers, or maybe a software patch, or that kind of thing, after all, its such a ****ty OS it needs constant support
<9> pilgrim looks at porn on his Newton
<10> DarthBurg, every OS has updates.
<3> oh gee.. like all other OS has every driver ever known to man
<10> And the ones that don't are outdated by definition.
<2> well actually surlly you DID leave one one it iirc ;)
<4> just griping
<2> one on
<4> ignore reality if you want.
<2> or was that CoS?
<3> how the **** will Linux/OS-x/etc obtain updates ?
<10> Although Win Updates are way more of a h***le to me than Ubuntu updates have been.
<2> I own 4 of them now
<7> o_O
<9> Did they ever make a color Newton?
<3> well, I do not update all my computers from the internet. I just download the updates once :-)
<2> I am in the market for a iMate if anyone sees one
<8> How does CNN get away with its liberal propaganda?
<2> no there was a color prototype when the plug was pulled
<3> pilgrim: i hear you can get some nice "iMates" from the former soviet union
<11> the new 13" MacBooks look good
<2> heh
<2> I know a fellow who has a lot of Apple prototypes
<2> not recent though
<9> It would be tougher for CNN to make bush looks stupid if he'd stop giving them so much ammo
<2> I would LOVE to dumpster dive behind their design studio
<3> nice <2> I would LOVE to dumpster dive
<10> Dumpster diving is fun.
<2> Lupine as PO said
<4> I just miss the painless operation of my Dos/win98 network, since we went to XP its been nothing but one ****ing headache after another. part of the problem is we only recently got broadband
<2> and it will keep you alive...been there
<3> <2> I prefer #6 for penetration
<12> DarthBurg: Pro or Home?
<9> Or Blade Runner
<3> Win98 network? HHAHAHAHAHHAAH
<4> getting XP all patched helped a gob
<2> NetBui went Kablooy
<4> Lupine compared to how the XP one runs, it was ****ing flawless, course it was freaking BNC, and not the fastest thing, but it was SOLID
<2> Darth has a point
<12> DarthBurg: If you picked up any version of XP other than Pro, you got punked.
<4> the current network goes down all the ****ing time.
<2> for mach to mach and no internet; closed net, NetBui is great
<4> its all XP Pro


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