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<0> Yeah it is.
<1> i'm a astrophysics major. Ozone is completely different. Ozone is about allowing UV rays to hit the earth and damage surface life. CFCs react with OZONE incredibly and knock it out, turning the O3 back into O2
<2> buy your houseboats now
<1> Ozone is being constantly created, cosmic rays do somethingorother to enteract with somecrapupthere and it is the result
<1> I don't remember those details:)
<0> lol
<1> I know you said never mind, but I was half way through typing it so I decided to finish
<1> :)
<3> and what is the O3's purpose to the earths atmosphere
<2> Theres LOTS of uninhabited land that will remain unncovered if the icecaps melt
<2> most of central russia
<2> northern Canada
<1> it helps block UV light from hitting the surface srbijan
<2> Siberia
<2> and they'll all be warmer
<0> Yeah.
<1> No ozone basically = instant cancer
<3> so less ozone = more uv light
<1> ;P
<2> People who live in Denmark and the Netherlands just need to move
<1> yup
<2> its not like this will be a quick thing if Global warming does happen
<4> Last time it got this warm marked the beginning of a period of technological advancement and exploration.
<2> it will be gradual
<1> it blocks other kinds of radiation I think aswell, I don't really remember
<3> radiation is heat, isnt it
<4> Circa 800s AD.
<4> Greenland was settled, etc.
<2> Pickle, I for one welcome my new Manitoba island paradise
<1> CFC has been almost globally banned, so people don't talk bout the problem in detail that often
<1> srbijan: Well, 'heat' is usually transfered via light....and other forms of radiation
<5> pickle: damn, the vikings must have had some serious global warming gas emissions
<1> but the definition isn't really equiviliant
<3> so the sun is hitting on all 8 cylinders when there is no O3 in the atmosphere... basically hitting ice
<3> in this case of the ozone
<3> for which has grown... and due to the ban of CFC's recently
<1> All light is part of the "heat transfer" (I put that in quote because of the wacko scientific definitoin of heat...it makes the word "transfer" redundant)
<6> They are talking abour a wall on the Mexican border, I want one also on the Canadian border. The traffic down here is terrible in the winter. That and the silly bastards cant drive. America for Americans...also if you speak french in public, you should be instantly arrested as a possible terrorist, sent to Cuba and let them work it out. :)
<1> the only way in which ozone contribues to global warming is that UV light that hits the earth would be absorbed by the earth and re-emitted as infrared light the same way
<1> Visible light does
<3> we could not really say that the damage is an immediate result.... therefore we could still be experiencing ozone depletion from years ago
<1> however, the effect is negligable compared to the amount of visible light that we recieve
<1> so people don't consider it a problem in that respect
<3> well you do know that polution blocks out certain uv rays? or am i totally off base?
<7> Wall on the Canadian border, yeah interesting idea.
<1> I really don't know if that's try srbijan
<7> We should build a wall at Candian border -- but put it like 100 miles inside of Canada. :)
<1> I havn't studied ozone in any great detail, I just know the basics
<1> try = true
<1> :P
<8> look at yourself suna
<3> if it is, then that means we are really ****ed... trapping bouncing UV rays off reflective objects and water would really heat things up.
<8> youre an anus
<9> we dont need a border with canadians. They arent exploiting our success as a country. They created success on their own.
<6> Red_Barch who is?
<9> I dont mind illegal aliens who come from SUCCESSFUL countries.
<7> keep those damn moose, north of the border.
<6> ooops Redfish..
<0> lol
<10> Iron Chef America!
<10> Woo HOOO!
<7> We could just auction off VISAs and green cards. Like 100KUS for green cards. Help pay down US trade deficit.
<1> objects at our temperatures generally re-emit absorbed light in the the Infrared wavelengths. Gren house g***es like carbon dioxide are not transparrent to light at these wavelengths, ie it can't escape. The earth heats up. Visible light (& other light) gets through the atmosphere because it is transparent to light @ these wavelengths. The earth absorbs, heats up, re-emits at infrared. Infrared can't get out, it comes back down, heats up the earth more. T
<1> that's it in a nutshell if anybody didn't know;p
<6> now you guys got suna going....geezus....
<10> YEEHHHH!
<3> Yeah suna our children are really butt****ed.. might as well tell them its true.
<10> malto Mario wins the Iron chef america!
<10> WOo hooo!
<11> anyone here know about/want to talk about World Bank issues?
<10> Iron chef Batali
<3> ahhh the world Bank
<12> The implications of the research are dramatic given Greenland holds enough ice to raise global sea levels by up to 21ft, a disaster scenario that would result in the flooding of some of the world's major population centres, including all of Britain's city ports.
<3> Molias, you mean the Catholic Church's control of the world bank when it killed off the Knights Templar?
<1> well, the ideas ARE true. They are verified in highschool physics labs. The question is how much CO2 is being released into the atmosphere by humans in relation to the amount released by geological activity & the amount "****ed up" by geological activity
<7> Greenland won't melt that fast.
<11> srbijan: "Cancelling the debt of the highly indebted poor countries (HIPCs) is essential if their economies are to develop." ?
<7> Will take centuries, if it happens
<1> It's no easy question
<9> mexicans on the other hand... were here long before everyone. They were here HUNDREDS of years prior to the rest of us... yet htey are the most failed country on our section of the earth. We accomplished more in a few hundred years than they did in a few thousand. But isntead of BUILDING their country using our success as a guide.... they skip the hard thinking... and just come to america.. illegally
<1> whether humans are significantly contributing
<9> thats called exploitation.
<10> the melting hasn't even begun yet
<1> however, the ideas about the process are not flawed at all. They are about as well established as you being alive
<10> they are talking at least 40 years to even show signs
<3> Molias: then they have no reason to make up for their shortcomings.
<1> if there is a dramatic incrase of greenhouse g***es, runaway greenhouse effect will occur and all life on this planet will die
<6> Molias is the World Bank offering free checking? If not, no....
<3> If the US would be debt free now, we would go on a spending spree and really **** things up.
<1> and furthurmore, this WILL happen (unless the earth is somehow destroyed first) in a few billion years;P
<10> according to the last scientific evidence that was offered by the UK from their core samples
<9> an illegal alien from japan is completely ok with me cause i know that illegal isnt fleeing failure
<13> phone brb
<10> there is no evidence that global warming is happening
<14> Bigoted behavior from this ip/domain
<11> srbijan: if you dontallow them free money than what do they have to build off of?
<10> there is only a 1 degree difference between now and 300 years ago
<15> 426 as a biologist, there is tons of evidence - you need to debate the merit of that evidence
<1> in rougly 1.1 billion years, the surface of the earth will be unfit for today's surface life, but ocean life & all sorts of bacteria will be around. In 4.5 billion years, oceans evaporate, temperatures skyrocket, no more c02 regulation, everything dies
<10> WCX as a biologist you don't have a clue
<3> Molias: they build off respect. they build better products to sell.
<1> but sicne humans won't exist in evey 1.1 billion years (we will have long evolved into something new)
<1> I really don't give a ****
<1> :P
<16> listen to Hemi he is an expert
<10> the evidence isn't there to support global warming more than 1 degree
<1> Tell that to all the dead polar bears!!!!
<15> 426, then again .... the earth got 20 degrees hotter than it is today. Of corse, that natural and did create most species to die out, more then the dinosours unhappy result
<10> td- i study this stuff as a hobby
<6> 426 well the Gulf is six degrees above normal, which of course feeds hurricanes. Isnt that some sign that some warming is happening?
<10> what do you do for a living?
<10> shovel ****/
<10> ?
<7> "Hello dead polar bears! THAT!"
<1> nah, the earth is warming up. There is just no definate proof of why or how long it will occur or where it will peak or anything else
<3> 426: As a hemi-driver, you have no clue about anything to do with anything.
<15> I am still in school -want to go to medical school
<11> how can they build better products to sell when all of their money is being taken to pay off debts that may not even help them (i.e. jamaica)
<10> TomM, the gulf is 6 degress above normal where?
<10> show me
<1> you guys have to understand, there is no definate explanation for why the last ice age even occured.....It is absolutely absurd for anybody to pretend they have some definate answer
<1> as if they know for sure
<1> but yet every day all these political idiots
<3> 426: Why are you trying to deploy your experience as a burger flipper to psychology?
<1> with no education in the matter...pretend they KNOW
<1> they are RIGHT
<1> they know for SURE
<1> it's so retarded
<1> I can't believ eit
<15> the thing is, there is DEFIDENT proof that the world is effected by global warming, what you need to debate is if humans are accelerating it and if that is ok/not ok. Global warming always happens, with humans or not
<3> agreed suna
<10> srbijan you don't know me and when you do then you will be able to make that judgement
<1> yes
<1> wcx is right
<11> srbijan: how can they build better products to sell when all of their money is being taken to pay off debts that may not even help them (i.e. jamaica)
<10> til then i would suggest you listen up boy
<1> but there is more too it...nobody even understans why it's always been happening
<15> suna you are right - there is no theory on the ice age
<1> nobody can predict how hot the earth will get
<1> or how cold
<15> theories are basically proven over and over they are considered fact
<1> nobody knows
<3> 426: i know you arent a biologist, or astrophysic professional. that i do know.
<6> you guys are starting to get testy....thats not good.
<1> my point? nobody here knows
<17> `426: if tomm could show you the exact coordinates where the gulf is warming, would it make ANY difference to you whatsoever? of course not. why should anyone bother?
<15> suna its now being debate the earth may be solid inside, not a melted core
<15> there is a lot we don't know
<10> the overwhelming evidence supports the fact that global temperatures have only fluctuated by 1 degree in the past 100 years
<1> last i learned the central core of the earth was solid
<10> show me something that says different
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