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<0> (what little they know, that is)
<1> it's enough
<1> see Iraq
<2> Even I was idealistic enough to say 5 years ago we wont do anything about Iran we hopw the people will do it.
<2> The people of Iran.
<3> falcon10, Iraq is a different story, completely.
<1> TheTailor, really? it is?
<3> falcon10, yes really, it is.
<2> But I apparently am wrong, this military government plans to stick it out not only to not comply with international non proliferation treaties but to beg for war by taunting the west.
<1> TheTailor, the basics are the same.
<0> Fr33Trade: if iran had free elections and their citizens had the right to own and carry firearms, it would be a different situation ^^
<2> Fireclaw, I agree.
<3> falcon10, well no, they aren't, not even close.
<0> Fr33Trade: i'd like to draw the parallell for u.s. citizens but its offtopic :P
<2> The problem is as I hears one time in a movie or in a book. We dont get the cards we want, we get the cards which are dealt to us.
<1> even if they dislike the current regime, they will hate a western intervention even more
<2> Anyway,I need to get ready for an important meeting.
<2> So later all.
<3> falcon10, what intervention?
<3> See ya FT
<2> Falcoln we know that and its factored into oureventual decisions
<2> Cya Tailor!
<1> TheTailor, overthrowing the regime
<3> falcon10, when did that happen?
<1> TheTailor, Iraq?
<3> Iran
<1> it might will
<3> *might* huh, well that doesn't make it fact now, does it?
<1> isn't that what you're discussing?
<1> that's the topic
<0> theyll think, "from one military dictatorship that we know to a military power we dont know"
<1> the possibility of a military intervention
<4> hamas supports the terrorist attack in israel! WTF
<3> falcon10, if it happens, we would like the Iranians themselves to do it.
<3> ebbtepid, that shocks you?
<5> ebbtepid uhm
<5> what tt said
<1> Fireclaw, it's more of a pride thing
<4> well first time the government actually supports it
<4> at least the fatah gov didnt
<3> falcon10, military action if it happens doesn't have to be all the US, does it.
<1> TheTailor, did i say US?
<1> please notice i've used the term "west" all along
<0> guess i should talk this over with iranian immigrants over here, see what they think of the current regime
<3> falcon10, you imply it, but fine, 'the west', but it won't be just 'the west', it will be the UN to begin with.
<0> theres no "the west vs islam", its nations with warmonger leaders and religious extremists
<1> TheTailor, in all of the recent UN operations what was the percentage of "western" countries?
<1> TheTailor, out of the total amount of armed forces participating?
<1> let's not argue over semantics, okay?
<0> soccer match outside here irl :D - "woooaaah ah ah ooooh!" in the distance :P
<3> falcon10, is Japan included in your definition of 'the west', how about Syria?
<3> Fireclaw, oh? What 'war monger' leaders are you speaking of?
<0> someone from "the west" are attacking, what do the iranians care who exactly it is as long as they are allied
<3> Fireclaw, with any luck the UN will do it's normal toothless threats and the Iraqian people will see the world is serious, and oust the ***aholas.
<6> *sweet*.. my new cd-headunit for my car came..
<3> Don't dance, you man boobs flop around
<0> TT: rumsfeld, saddam, bin laden, whoever the front figures are in palestina and israel are
<6> lol.. thing is well constructued! very thick copper ch***is, seperate/external power supply etc
<0> and religious extremists like the suicide bombers and terrorists getting themselves killed in other ways
<3> Fireclaw, Rumsfeld isn't a leader, nor is Saddam, and bin Laden, well, he's underground.
<0> TheTailor: im talking about the historical conflict, not just those in power today
<3> Fireclaw, of course bin Laden never lead anyone but a small group.
<0> couple of million :P
<3> Fireclaw, I don't think you were, it's pretty clear that you meant the leaders that ousted Saddam.
<0> no i meant both sides
<0> people can be as muslim as they want as far as i care, its murder that is wrong, not being a religious crackpot
<3> Fireclaw, well no, you clearly distinguished the two, 'war mongers' and 'religious fanatics'.
<3> '...its nations with warmonger leaders and religious extremists...'
<6> <-- warmonger. kill them all, let allah sort them out!
<1> uhmm, i'm installing Civilization 4 now. we'll see who get nukes first.
<1> i promise you, my UN will be much more aggresive.
<3> In your game sure
<3> All games are more aggresive than the UN.
<1> TheTailor, game? what game? computers are the reality
<3> falcon10, umm, bullets are reality.
<1> bullets ****s
<1> guns ****s
<7> in Alpha Centauri, I liked to play "frends" with the UN.. then backstab them right before I go on my genocidal rampage
<7> no, guns blow
<1> heh :)
<3> falcon10, just because you fear guns and bullets, that doesn't mean they ****.
<1> fear?
<1> i don't fear them at all
<3> Yes, fear.
<1> i just don't think the public should have easy time owning firearms
<3> Because you fear them.
<1> i used to sleep with a rifle almost every night for like 3 years
<3> Sounds uncomfortable.
<1> true
<3> Oh, and I don't believe that.
<1> you do know we have mandatory service, right?
<3> Sure
<1> i'm a staff sergeant by rank
<3> Yeah, and?
<1> and while enlisted i was issued a rifle, like all the others
<1> and had to carry it around at all times, unless on vacation
<3> I never heard of a requirement to sleep with a rifle. Perhaps if you were in combat.
<1> TheTailor, it must be with you, and under your responsibility
<7> This is my rifle.. this is my gun.. one is for war.. the other is for fun..
<7> but yea, i've heard of some milititary trainers require that
<1> when we were at base, we used to put it under the mattress
<1> like, under our heads
<1> in field, you just slept with it in your sleeping bag
<7> I keep my gun in the night dresser.. more comfortable that way
<1> atleast at some point i was issued with an M-4
<1> Lupine, damn officers used to try and steal it :)
<7> i'ld have knifed them.. "oops, i thought you were a terrorist"
<1> Lupine, **** happend
<1> there is this story about this officer who wanted to check if his troops are on gaurd
<7> put cornsyrup, then **** on the knife.. and then stab him right under the rib, into his kidney and liver.. it'll be a slow/painful death
<1> while in boot camp
<1> so he sneaked up to the post, and the gaurd was asleep
<1> he did a loud noise
<1> and the guy woke up in panic and shot at him
<1> when i was at boot camp, a machine gunner in a drill confused a platoon mate with a target (at night)
<1> and shot him down
<1> **** always happen when you deal with firearms :)
<8> 10 pound trigger pull causes 2000joules of force at the muzzle.
<9> falcon...looks like severe stupidity to me
<9> keeps the gene pool clean
<8> Play simulation or even paintball friendly fire is common.
<8> Even some of the best players, make mistakes.
<9> some oen sent me an email...called sumbitch....
<1> yeah
<7> forgot the guys name.. but was in band of brothers.. a fidgity sentry serious wounds one of hte platoon leaders with his rifle
<9> it said a pic was worth 1000 words..so a pic was included
<9> someone was defusing a bomb....
<9> his buddy was behind him about to pop a paper bag....
<9> the one with the bag was the ...sumbitch
<1> "buddy"
<1> :)
<9> you saw that email??
<7> yea, that is an old internet gag picture
<9> ahhh falcon 10 is a Tull fan :)
<1> i haven't seen it
<1> okay
<1> i'm going to check out civ. 4
<1> have a great one
<9> ok
<9> dont forget yer aqualung :P
<9> My musical instructor hated Ian Anderson.......
<9> because in his chauvinist pig eye, only gals could play a flute
<9> ime to chew down some auction piccies......bbiab
<10> The Bush Administration announced last week that the nation is no longer losing wetlands--as long as you consider golf course water hazards to be wetlands.
<10> lmao
<10> http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/columnists/conservation/article/0,13199,1179434,00.html#
<9> nice
<9> field and Liberal vitriol streams
<11> sweet
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