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<0> lol
<1> hey now
<2> fast peckers, no less.
<3> And its not her personal information unless you think a computer is a sentient being.
<0> have you forgotten that hillary kept FBI files in the basement of the WH ?
<4> everyone thinks "NSA" and "CIA" means "devil boogyman"
<5> CometBaby - i asked you if it bothered you.
<1> i am talking about the got damned birds
<3> and if you do.. The men in black2 show I just saw puts you as a believer in that also.
<0> disbelief I already answered that earlier. Hell no.
<6> disbelief they open your letters you send to other countries, or receive from other countries, have done for over a century. why dont you care about that?
<0> I have nothing to hide.
<3> Disbelief does it bother you that you have no clue what you are talking about ?
<7> lol dont hate on the birds demi..
<2> men in black do exist.
<2> demi...lol
<1> hehhehah i don't hate them
<3> Jesus the USA pulled a number of peoples brains and dumbed them down.
<3> USA today
<5> CometBaby - fair enough. What if Verizon or AT&T were to give this same information to another corporation or private individual as well?
<1> i think they are cool, i just wonder how the hell can they do that
<7> lol
<3> Comet, You know I wont even argue that issue with them.
<1> and where the heck do they get the energy at 4:30 am
<3> They are so ignorant. They have no clue how we wont ww2
<0> disbelief .. if they don't do it one of their employees will. What planet do you live on?
<2> they drink too much caffeine
<3> WW2 was won by NSA like programs, code breakers and espionage.
<1> "its like dude i drank alot lost night its Sunday morning, shouldn't you still be in bed?"
<0> FreeTrade it doesn't really bother me until they begin outright lying .. like saying that it is illegal.
<5> CometBaby - do you believe that call logs are private information ?
<1> woodpeckers like babababababbam!bababababbaM!
<3> Seriously Normandy would have been a disastor if we hadnt broken the german code.
<7> lol hemi, because of your hangover the woodpeckers should stfu?
<2> peckers don't really know what Sundays mean.
<0> disbelief .. I already answered your question. Don't reword it.
<3> Same thing random **** in a computer trying to pull a pattern out of it.
<7> lol
<1> if i got a hangover everyone should
<3> Same thing we do today only with terrorist telephones.
<2> 426's life is one big hangover
<7> maybe you should just take chaser! i hear it does wonders...........cuz i dont get hangovers
<7> so i dont actually know
<6> disbelief some bloggers made news last year by purchasing the phone records of VIP politicians.. for $99 they purchased a 2004 presidential candidates entire phone log from a private website.
<3> and internet, We catch a lot of terrorists and intercept plans over the internet I know we do, the government will never tell you because they cant, but they do..
<0> disbelief maybe you want to protect the freedom of terrorists to use our phone system to make their plans .. but sane people don't.
<1> insomnia my grandfather used to blast the shot gun off
<5> Cometbaby - Should the government be able to compel internet providers to turn over email smtp and pop3 logs ?
<3> And its more than likely why we havent yet had a major attack on the USA in 5 years, though we could have one tommorrow espeically with all these leaks.
<1> but we don't live someplace where we can do that here
<7> lol i do...
<3> And this story was in the NYT a year ago where was the outrage ? Answer: There was none.
<0> disbelief .. I am not going to answer anymore questions .. so you may as well come up with something new.
<3> How ****ing manipulated can some of you be by the media.
<2> do ppl read the NYT?
<7> wouldnt a gunshot disrupt your hangover even more than a woodpeckers?
<8> disbelief, i reckon some people do not care if their information could potentially be used for purposes it wasn't initially intended for
<1> Freetrade, I love New York!"
<5> cometbaby - huh? i simply asked for your view. there's no need to be antagonistic.
<1> hehehhahaha
<9> pop quiz; how many asymmetric wars has America won?
<3> They USA TODAY republishes an old story you didnt give a **** about and then they distort facts about it and you all are ****ting your pants like paranoid babies.
<3> Its really pathetic..
<1> hahahhahaa
<3> Which is why I wont even debate it.
<0> disbelief .. you are not debating .. you are playing 20 questions. And I am not playing your game.
<1> Ayaan Hirsi Ali needs to come to America
<9> hint; less then one
<1> if dutch won't take her, USA should just to slap their uptight "human rights" ***es in the face
<3> Comet, Nature produces X amount of people who have to believe in myths and be paranoid or think the world is ending.
<3> Same story different century
<3> or millenium
<6> take issue with the companies you do business with, not the govt. They didn't have to hand over information
<3> Take issue with your own paranoiaa.
<3> Really
<5> syf - indeed. I suppose the potential abuses will exist in the realm of the hypothetical until conservatives acknowledge the intrusion that it is.
<0> disbelief I can ask trick questions too. Do you want to protect the right of terrorists to make their plans on the phones secretly?
<3> I hope I was never so ****ing naive or silly.
<10> lc: untrue. We won the American Revolution which was using asymmetric tactics.
<5> CometBaby - that's not a "trick" question, that's a loaded, false-dichtomy rhetorical question.
<6> Fr33Trade I would still like to know your source on illegals being part of the fastest growing group of business owners in the USA, while you're going on about honest debate
<0> disbelief no it isn't. Go ahead and answer it.
<0> two can play that game
<1> welp you guys have a good night and good luck
<6> disbelief you sign up with a phone company, you enter into an agreement with them. It is a relationship with them, it is up to you to read the fine print and determine who they share your info with
<3> You get these fat nerds with coke bottle gl***es on the internet and they here about echelong and all these programs which cause them no harm in fact we have never heard on one story of harm done buy any of these programs and they fat nerds think they are great defenders of freedom like out of Marvel Comic Books.. well I say they are comical.. But its a bad time for such comical people.
<5> Cometbaby - This isn't an 'either-or' proposition. I could say the same silly thing in the form of "Do you protect the right of terrorists to buy firearms because you don't support registration?"
<3> there is a real world and a land of fantasy and I think half thw world is in the land of fantasy
<10> yahoo and google share your search info also
<1> this is Walter Crankeyte saying "Thats the way it as , September 22nd 1976
<10> its ****ing 1984
<1> was
<0> FreeTrade .. I see them as fat, long greasy hair, pimples, need a bath, and wearing pants that are falling off.
<3> Yeah but when the russians were creating the perfect communist world it wasnt 10984,,
<3> When Hitler was create the 3rd reich it wasnt 1984..
<1> Comet that sounds like my first girlfriend
<0> lol
<3> 1984 is when I actually see someones rights violated..
<6> Fr33Trade ignores my question for the 10th time
<6> I respect honest debate
<0> FreeTrade you need to add Fr33Trade to your highlight list. You are missing posts.
<6> not hit and run comments the someone refuses to correct
<5> bud` to my knowledge your call habits and the people you call (which represents an act of free ***ociation, an important protected right) are indeed private and not shared by phone companies, which is why there are lawsuits pending for their abrogations of this contractual obligation
<0> bud if you want him to see your post, I suggest you call him FreeTrade
<6> disbelief anyone can file a lawsuit
<3> 1984 first occurred to me when left wingers started changing the names of terms such as liberal, and choice, and reeducation and socially responsible, and invented words like politically correct and socially responsible corporations.. I even use some of the terms now days because some of the peopel who fall under the terms are victims of it not the perpetrators.
<5> bud` - the government recording and examining call records represents a monitoring of free ***ocation. this should be enough to make any conservative upset.
<6> disbelief I could sue the ham sammich i just ate in any number of ways
<6> disbelief your case is with the phone company, not the govt.
<5> its both, really.
<6> disbelief Qwest here in Colorado told the government 'No'
<5> yeah i know
<5> good for them
<6> any of them could have done the same
<5> they'll have to hire twice the number of lobbyists now though
<3> Remind me to never do business with QWest an accomplice to terrorism.
<6> a fine american company actually
<5> Mohammed Atta was a NOTORIOUS Qwest Customer
<3> You couldnt have any more privacy if you wanted it..
<6> that has been repeatedly targetted by enemies of capitalism
<3> For gods sake only a computer sees it.
<6> and enemies of big business
<3> And it only pops up if it fits a pattern which is constantly perfected for uncovering terrorists.
<3> and it works.
<10> lol
<3> When the war is over I will join people in saying ok we dont need this now.
<5> hehe
<5> beeperz - pretty zany, huh?
<6> it was major news here when certain bad elements of the govt. raided Qwest here due to the corporate earnings reporting scandal
<0> FreeTrade the UK has announced that they were able to STOP three planned attacks via phone watches.
<2> the war is going to end?
<10> So, because a telecom company decides to follow the 1934 law and not turn over the phone records, they "support terrorism".
<3> Until its over, thinking like you do today almost had as all speaking german.
<10> that's why its 1984
<3> as = us all speaking german.
<5> ahhaha
<3> Study world war 1 and 2 history
<5> Yes, because Hiterler's north american invasion fleet was narrowly repelled.
<5> thank god.
<3> Buisness and the homefront was as important to the war as the soldiers.
<2> haha disbelief
<11> beeperz: getting the phone records (note: not actual wiretaps), is not illegal without a warrant...and this has been upheld by SCotUS more than once
<3> In the USA every business and women and people were all workign together for the war effort.
<12> ahh yes, there's the mentality that allowed 9/11
<12> thanks disbelief
<11> phone records as in phone numbers, time of the call, how long it lasted...all without giving personal info about the caller and the called
<6> IamKing whitepages.com
<11> beeperz: and if you don't like that it is legal for the government to do this, then that's just too ****ing bad for you
<10> ok, but no one here is disputing allowing warrants. what we're debating here is how they got the records by asking, not with a warrant, and that's ****ing illegal.
<10> You talk about Hitler, Freetrade
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