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<0> RobVanDam: who would you have for president?
<1> RoadKil: badnarik
<0> ??
<1> michael badnarik
<0> Shooo beddeck?
<2> RobVanDam, would you say that Zapatero is an idiot?
<1> huh rk?
<2> i mean, the actual spanish president
<3> he can't be that bad, more than half of the population supports him
<1> si esse
<0> RobVanDam of the US or which other country where you talking about when you said "Bush is a Fuking Monkey?
<4> rather large gaffe and ***umption re: the Madrid bombing
<2> Timur, what do you mean?
<2> i don't understand
<4> it was stated that the Basques bombed the train station in Madrid.
<1> RoadKil: in engrish please
<2> Timur, yes, and it was a lie
<0> RobVanDam did I miss quote you or take you out of context?
<0> In english please.
<4> right, and a convenient one that allowed the Spanish to have one last moment of delusion as to the real danger of Islamist terrorism.
<1> <0> RobVanDam of the US or which other country where you talking about when you said "Bush is a Fuking Monkey?
<1> speak english
<5> Lunch, Cup of tea since my daughter drank my last slimfast!
<1> lol your daughter is on slimfast? that can't be healthy
<3> anyways im not familiar with spains foreign policy, but im quite positive it vastly differs from US national interests
<0> RobVanDam ok, misspellings and typos and horrible grammer withstanding, you must have understood my bad engrish enough to spit a quote back..
<1> what's up rwx?
<1> I think i'll call you that since your other nicks keep getting stolen by the idiots :)
<1> RoadKil: I did not
<0> RobVanDam: did I take you out of context?
<2> ehm
<3> i think rob was being sarcastic roadkil
<1> Which is why grammar is important.
<1> ask gopp
<0> RobVanDam: did I yes or no... if yes then I am sorry but I don't think I messed up.
<3> findeton whats your defenition of populist?
<1> I have no clue what you are trying to say RoadKil
<5> Hell I have been all over 2 counties this morning. I am tired. and I Am getting ready to start a big job.
<1> <0> RobVanDam of the US or which other country where you talking about when you said "Bush is a Fuking Monkey?
<1> where?
<5> BIg big job.
<3> dope deal goin' down?
<5> Barbara Boxers home...
<0> So, if the current Pres of the USA is a "Fuc**** monkey" then who would you have had elected for president?
<5> Not literally but her home county ;)
<1> RoadKil: I already told you, Michael Badnarik
<5> Roadkill I think he has been a damn good president and I have been alive for .......well since Truman.
<1> RoadKil: I was being facisious
<1> RoadKil: bush is not a ****ing monkey, democrats are always calling him one though
<3> you can say ****ing, its ok
<3> i allow it
<5> Truman kennedy, johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43
<1> you're old rwx :)
<5> Getting there :)
<1> RoadKil: What country do you reside in?
<0> RobVanDam: enough said.
<1> RoadKil: You are obviously not American if you do not know who Michael Badnarik is.
<1> either that, or you are an uneducated voter
<5> There has never been a president who perfectly matched my ideals. Bush is closest. From Immigration which he ran on which republicans seem to forget, to the War on terror which he made mistakes in the early planning or may not have. the mistake may have been that at the 11th hour the Turks refused to allow the 4th ID to cross and come down from the North. That was out of Bushs hands.
<0> unedumacated.
<5> And there was no way to rapidly deploy them elsewhere.
<0> Boy, he was so unforgettable.
<1> Badnarik ran in 2004
<0> RobVanDam: for give me.
<2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America:_From_Freedom_to_Fascism
<2> a film
<3> if hes not a democrat or a republican, hes marginal
<3> which makes him very, very forgettable.
<3> i dont care who he is
<1> lapointe: not true
<1> lapointe: it is that kind of thinking that hurts America
<5> Here is the problem with accepting the pundits wisdom that he screwed the pooch at the beggining of the war. They dont have any reality to compare it against. Another 100k troops could have helped, or it could of fed the insurgency by seeming like a much larger INVASION and occupation.
<3> on the contrary
<1> lapointe: and I bet you only care about Labor and Likud?
<3> its that kind of thinking that streghtens america
<5> So you know, like in all wars, you can second guess them but you can never really know if you would have been right.
<3> no i don't
<2> +lapointe, what you are describing doesn't sound like a democracy
<5> There isnt a war which wasnt seriously ****ed up in some of the planning.
<1> a two party system is not the way
<5> especially initially.
<3> but i pray everyday before i go to bed that somehow, a presidential system of election will be established in israel
<3> 2 party is the BEST way
<2> only two parties is like pretty much like only a party
<0> RobBanDam: did you see the Libertarian Convention last Presidential election cycle?
<3> id rather have 2 mediocre parties than 10-15 great parties
<5> Korean War. We sent 10k men to their death unprepared to fight and truman was told 10k would die because they werent trained and didnt have arms.
<3> and lets face it, NONE of our parties are "great"
<3> in fact, they are all medicore
<3> so might as well have 2 mediocre parties instead of 15 mediocre parties, no?
<2> i mean, you may detest the communism, but it resembles its system
<0> RobBanDam: and the canidate they offered up to the public?
<6> lapointe there are no "great" parties, as the concept of a party is flawed from the beginning
<3> findeton the problem with pluralism, is that nothing gets done.
<3> everyone is bickering and squabbling over parliament scraps, and in the end the people are the ones who get ****ed
<0> RobBanDam: were either events memerable?
<3> you vote for this supposedly awesome party that represents your thoughts and opinions exactly
<3> but in the end they get only 1 member in parliament
<5> FDR, when we started in ww2, we didnt do so great either. By the end of world war 2 we ended up among the greatest warriors, along with the Germans and the British.. Although eveyrone contributed.. Russias strength was its man power and its willingness to lose over one million men to the war..
<2> lapointe, the fact that those two parties have been the only real possibilities for so many times, makes me laugh at your democracy
<0> hey Janet.
<3> 1 member out of 120
<5> What was their total death count ?
<5> The Russians ?
<2> lapointe, pluralism is always good when legal
<3> my democracy, the one im living in, is pluralistic
<7> Hi RoadKil :)
<5> It was over a million but unless I am confusing two wars aI think it was over 2 million
<0> hey.
<3> findeton: its great if you dont have to make any important decision.
<3> its great if all you are discussing is whether or not to raise the price of goat cheese by 5.5%
<2> Freeisme, i'm talking about communism, not about russia. And btw i'm not a commie :p
<3> but in everything related to security, defense, major economic and legal reform
<3> it impedes the system
<5> There was kiev and stalingrad or St petersberg at each battle the lost nearly a million.
<5> Or more.
<3> that reminds of the hypothetical US-China joke
<8> Mexico - Angola still 0-0
<3> the first day of the war, china lost 5million troops
<3> the second day, 15million
<2> lapointe. Believe me, it's possible. I live in spain and it's possible here. Are you from other universe? No. Therefore it's possible there too
<5> IM talking about Bush and the Gulf war, and WW2 and Korea, And I could add in that in ww1 we started out as cannon foddeer..
<3> the third day, the US high command recieved a thank-you letter from the chinese general
<8> lapointe, for china, drop in the bucket
<5> Im not talking about communism or any ideology
<5> Im talking only about war and second guessing history.
<3> findeton excuse me for maybe undermining or shrinking spains political situation
<5> The fact is noone will ever know what the right plan was...
<3> but you havnt been in a state of war since your inception as a country
<8> spain?
<3> and you aren't surrounded by 100million people who want nothing less than your country's destruction
<7> we were in a state of war in WWII
<5> What if at the 11th hour when our men were in place the 4th ID was allowed to come down from the north through turkey
<8> spain has been in dozens of wars
<5> some believe it would of made a HUGE difference.
<2> +lapointe, yes and you have been on an unreal state of war for the 90% of the last 40 years
<3> unreal?
<5> Turkey gave us permission and withdrew it while we were ready to disembark
<3> its a fake war? with plastic guns and chewing gum balls as bullets?
<2> well, you create wars
<1> Freeisme: they could have come in from the west
<2> you are the ones who create them
<5> So they end up dropping light infantry 101st in northern Iraq, Great fighters but not a mechanized army
<3> oh, really?
<7> we start wars?
<8> what is the purpose of a war?
<5> So noone can ever say with certitude that the Bush war plan was flawed.
<3> we created it in 1948 when the UN ruled a two-state solution, and we accepted, and the arabs attacked us because of it?
<5> people can only surmise through second guessing.
<7> excuse me... when did we start WWII, Viet Nam and this one?
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