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<0> It is a shame, really, that Runsfeld appears so disconnected from reality. he gives great press conferences.
<1> Rabelais was much earlier, and was a literary writer, not a political one
<0> Rums
<2> One line trashed the summa theologium
<3> Libertine: so by extention, I can not hold responsible and reprehensible those that make such statements and meet themn at the polls? Call to extreme contrast their behaviour?
<3> hrmm, bad engrish.
<3> you get it.
<1> ok, he did write a bit about politics, and it was pro-monarchic
<4> RoadKil: meet them at the polls?
<4> RoadKil: what do you mean?
<1> CH: I ***ume you've read authors of the Enlightenment..
<5> good lord
<5> is that a flood or what
<1> sam old
<1> *same :)
<2> the script kiddies are getting desparate
<5> ahha cry
<6> Bunch of amateurs, and cowards.
<1> ok, maybe not
<3> Well, it might be ok to yell fire in the movie theater, when there was none. If the courts tell me we can not jail the person for doing so, then could I publicly hold then up as examples of what not to do for generations to come?
<7> hemi is banned? jmm
<7> hmm
<8> getting?
<8> when were they not?
<2> Robespierre Rousseau
<1> right
<3> Politicians can be "met at the polls.
<1> so, those are the authors who'd be relevant to the American revolution, if at all
<2> Marquis De Sade :)
<3> Meaning that sure you get away with it now... but come election time ... it will be brought back up.
<2> ahhh Descartes
<2> hes the one
<2> I think therefore I am
<9> :)
<5> ah
<2> choo
<5> its easy to blame bush who's at the top of the chain of command without understanding exactly what its like being there
<5> doesn't absolve him totally from responsibility
<5> but damn...
<5> he can't be everywhere in iraq
<2> The Democrat proletariat wage war against the Bushois
<5> people say well bush screwed up this war lets vote all the repubs out of office now in '06 and get a dem in '08 who knows how to run a war (or maybe they dont even wage the rest of the war and just pull out totally...yea good idea)
<5> the real culprits are these people in the state dept and pentagon
<5> and you can't unelect alot of them...can you
<5> i know some of them the president appoints
<5> like his cabinet but
<10> it's going a lot better there, considering the circumstances and forces arranged, than you seem to be aware, godfist
<9> godList: the american public may not have thought Bush a good choice but Kerry was not the answere no matter what party he would have choosen to be in.
<5> yea gloria
<9> I think next election all depends on who runs.
<5> yaakov was saying bad choices made but not bush's fault but he wouldn't list specific examples
<5> has me confused
<5> as usual
<9> Bush may have made mistakes, would Kerry not make some as well?
<9> It seems over all the Dems put up someone more flawed than Bush.
<5> yea the way clinton fired off a few cruise missles into iraq after saddam kicked out the inspectors and talked like we were going to send *some* kind of force into iraq in his state of the union speech one year and then doesn't do a thing basically...
<5> clinton woulnd't have had the guts to make a decision to go into the war like this. even if the decision isn't 100% right and major mistakes have been made. at least bush chose to do it knowing how much flack he'd get
<5> flack=flak
<4> "Those afraid of the universe as it really is, those who pretend to nonexistent knowledge and envision a Cosmos centered on human beings will prefer the fleeting comforts of superstition. They avoid rather than confront the world. But those with the courage to explore the weave and structure of the Cosmos, even where it differs profoundly from their wishes and prejudices, will penetrate its deepest mysteries."
<4> -Carl Sagan
<9> godlist it seems so. It's tough to make a case that he would have gotten tougher.
<5> godlist? what kind of pun is that? what is it supposed to mean? heh
<5> i'm laughing dont get me work
<5> just wondered where this pun on my nick came from :D
<9> Was that from Gore's latest movie offerings?
<5> work=wrong
<5> oh yea
<5> the global warming movie thing
<5> i heard it got an insane amount of positive press coverage (almost all manufactured postive) and it earned like $100,000 in the 1st weekend or two>
<5> LOL
<11> 100,000? That's pretty bad for a movie release.
<5> people who actually think global warming exists and this was their big chance...they must be either shaking their head in disappointment or deluded and think there was a republican conspiracy to shut down his movie
<9> My co workers asked me " you don't believe global waring is real" heheheh.... I just had to laugh....
<5> yea i was up late one night and the drudge report came on the radio (didn't know drudge had a radio show) and he talked about it
<9> My co workers use to keep Air America on 24 / 7... I have not heard it in a long time. I wonder if I am getting to them.
<9> I should bring it back, I use to know all the talking points .
<9> sigh back to work.
<9> I have not heard a Drudge broadcast in months. I can honestly say ...I have hard only 2 in my life time.
<5> at least al franken doesn't come on when i'm home for the day...ugh
<5> ed schultz pulled out the old "some women picked my show being added to this radio station therefore the repubs are going to try to get the fairness doctrine" thing...i'm like this is exactly what the conservatives get paranoid about on their shows. now the libs are stealing the conservatives talking points!...man both sides need to settle down
<5> it just struck me that schutlz was being naive if he thought the fairness doctrine coming down on his head was a new thing and its those evil conservatives who want to silence him..i'm like welcome to like 5 years ago ed where have you been
<5> not that i think the conservatives would do it...sorry i didn' make that clear
<5> but never say never in politics is what our local host says
<5> i mean it could happen look at that internet differentiation bill that went through congress a week ago...scary stuff
<5> govt wants to regulate everything
<5> time has got me
<5> lab is closing
<5> c y'all on monday...
<12> im guessing that freemrkts that is getting banned isnt the real one?
<13> is it bad?
<13> they say i'm a ****in' bushie
<6> Whatever works for you I suppose.
<13> is it serious? am i goin' 2 die?
<6> Yes.
<9> and if I used language like that to refer to Clinton woujld you have a problem?
<9> Would you have a problem if I refered to any president of the USA like that?
<9> Are you an american? If not go take a flying leap in advance.
<13> I know that i'm going to be censored here if i try to explain my (real) views, because i'm a leftie
<13> so
<13> i'd better shut up and listen
<14> naw this is a very loving and kind place for all views
<14> please do express them !!
<15> ha!
<16> hahahahaa right
<16> this is a right wing channel
<9> No refer to a president of any party with a little respect.. might even wait to hear what you have to say.
<16> 100%
<13> rond, you a re right,this is freeland... until a moderator sees an opinion which he dislikes
<9> I am not a moderator... and go ahead ... just let it fly :)
<1> however, I don't think there's any obligation to be 'kind and loving' to all views
<13> RoadCill, yes of course... NO, i've seen it so many times...
<1> there are just too many
<14> Beijing blogger and podcaster Dong Lu registered his 10 millionth hit on Friday morning, racing to the landmark on the back of China's obsession with
<14> the World Cup.
<9> yeah mess up the name of the president in order to do what? Bushies and Cllits? I don't know if that is how you should refer to someone or persons holding the highest office in the land.
<9> Just me... that is beyond politcs
<17> First admendment.
<13> i'd rather vote for nader if i lived in the us of america
<9> Just rude.
<17> But of course their is the golden rule.
<1> Nader is a naive idiot
<1> if well intentioned in some regards
<13> Timur, i think that of bush
<13> i think nader is just... right
<9> But the idiot was better than the idiots the Dems that ran in last election cycle.
<13> RoadCillwhich idiot are you talking about? i'm lost
<13> :p
<13> you mean bush?
<13> no, everything is better than bush or the democrats
<18> Ok findeton
<1> no, Bush is many things, even cynical, but not naive.
<18> Ok Timur
<9> Bush may not have been a prize but who would you have be pres now if not Bush... please let's hear it. Kerry?
<13> nader would have done it great
<1> Nader was and is unelectable.
<13> you could vote for him on the last elections, couldn't you?
<13> afaik, i mean
<1> yes, but he still wouldn't have been elected.
<1> he's too out of step with the vast majority of Americans.
<19> Timur is correct, Nader is unelectable.
<7> meaning that voting nader would be a wasted vote
<19> So the question remains, WHO, other than Bush?
<20> i despise nader.. as he doomed the US automarket to ill handling understeering pigs
<7> which is sometimes just as bad as voting for the wrong guy
<1> he also is a foreign policy isolationist
<13> yes, in your electoral system, it would be a wate of time
<13> i know
<20> Tailor: where is Reagan whe you need him?
<7> finde yup
<1> dead
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